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Boogaloo Boi Steven Carrillo (Article: How an Active Duty Airman Tried to Start a Civil War)
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A hit piece on who exactly...Carrillo?
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S&W Fan
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There is no denying that Carrillo had a mental screw loose , but to frame it in the context of “conservative extremism “” and 2A loving Americans is the HIT
spat
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This.
Your attribution to mental illness is a deflection from the reality of Carrillo's (and those of his ilk's) motivation and aims.
Did you read the article? Carrillo, his network and by extension those who sympathize.
Robin
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I thought the Boogaloo was a dance from the sixties!
Robin
Robin
Catskillkid
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So was the Electric Boogaloo a remix from the eighties?
Celt
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He seemed to be anti tyranny, anti big government, anti police, pro freedom and pro 2a, and hes not a white supremacist. He also wants a civil war to bring about change. Who else does that sound like?
So when you say those of his ilks and his motivation and aims, what would those be? This is a genuine question.
I dont support his actions, but i support anti tyranny, anti big gov, pro freedom, pro 2a.
So then you have him down as a conservative, 2A loving American, I guess. Sounds like you and S&W Fan should chat.
Celt
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I would say everyone on this forum would fit that mold, yourself included.So then you have him down as a conservative, 2A loving American, I guess. Sounds like you and S&W Fan should chat.
Id say the ideals that BLM started with also fall in line with most of that.
wasnt the MI Gov kidnap plot a planted FBI idea? I don’t remember what the outcome of that was but I thought I heard all charges were dropped. As to the article the guy seemed to fit the left wing narrative of anti police and wanting a civil war. Isn’t that what Antifa is pushing these days? So the dude is mentally ill. There is a lot of that going on in the US these days. Seems to be a large concentration of mentally ill people who occupy the capital building and other facilities in DC.
oh was part of that painting with a broad brush? Hmmm just like the agenda the media is pushing, pro 2A, pro small government, Pro personal responsibility, pro freedom, you must be a domestic terrorist.
I am so glad I am a PRO “Mind your business” kind of guy. The media haven’t labeled that movement with the domestic terrorism moniker yet.
oh was part of that painting with a broad brush? Hmmm just like the agenda the media is pushing, pro 2A, pro small government, Pro personal responsibility, pro freedom, you must be a domestic terrorist.
I am so glad I am a PRO “Mind your business” kind of guy. The media haven’t labeled that movement with the domestic terrorism moniker yet.
S&W Fan
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Whew, wow apparently that one went way over your head, and this gobbledygook went over mine.
S&W Fan
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Hmm, “ and by extension those who sympathize “. I see no sympathizers here. You aught to be a politician. With the way you twist the meaning of things you’d fit right in nicely.
ManrisFrack
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Why did you post this here @Rap ? What are you hoping to accomplish or point out?
ManrisFrack, what an odd question. The crimes committed were with guns and this is a gun forum. The actions that Carrillo undertook, the manner in which he organized, the people he conspired with are all very interesting for any number of reasons. There seems to be lots of conversation lately about domestic terrorism; I'd say that this article fits right in.
ManrisFrack
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I tire of your game, Rap. And what's more, I really don't have time for it.
You're in luck. I hereby extend a personal invitation to you to exit this thread and commence living your best life.
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FrankenCub
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Interesting enough, sounds like BLM and ANTIFA. They seem to have support of every 3 letter agency and the Squatter in the House.
holdover
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It was written by a Berkley news paper, so your gonna have the leftist slant.
Robin
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To call anything out of Berkley leftist is a large understatement.
Robin
Robin
This one guy was a certifiable nutjob. However, if you fear the boogaloo bois more than antifa and BLM and think the bois are more likely to kill cops or start the next civil war then you simply haven't been paying attention. A "collaboration" between propublica, berkeley and frontline is a self serving piece of yellow journalism designed to reinforce the ignorance of those already trapped inside a left wing news bubble. I look forward to the next "collaboration" that concludes people who refuse to use all 87 pronouns are the real menace to this country.
holdover
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Some bullet points from the article:
“The police are the guard dogs, ready to attack whenever the owner says, ‘Hey, sic ’em boy,’” Carrillo said in an interview,""
“This is what I came to fight — I’m sick of these goddamn police.”
Examples of this broader insurrection abound, from October’s foiled plot to abduct Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to the leading role militia groups such as the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers played in the violent takeover of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.
prosecutors said Carrillo and four members of the Grizzly Scouts, including its leader, “discussed tactics involving killing of police officers and other law enforcement.”
In nearly two hours of interviews conducted in Spanish and English,
According to family members, his father, an undocumented immigrant from Mexico
Given up by his parents as a toddler, Carrillo and Evan, his older brother, were taken in by other members of their family, and at age 5 he was sent with his brother to a tiny rural village in Jalisco, Mexico, where they lived on their grandparents’ farm.
When asked in an interview about his involvement with the Grizzly Scouts, Carrillo responded evasively. “How did you figure that out?” he asked in Spanish when first pressed about his ties to the group.
He became even more withdrawn, family members said, after his wife committed suicide in 2018 shortly after he confessed to cheating on her yet again. He spoke of wanting to kill himself and started living out of a van, leaving it to his in-laws to look after his two young children. “He was just in complete disconnect of how people should live and who he was,
Carrillo’s girlfriend, Silvia Amaya, said she noticed a distinct shift in Carrillo’s behavior at around this time. He struggled with insomnia and was increasingly “shut off in his own world,” she said in an interview.
The next month, prosecutors allege, he bought a $15 device that converts AR-15 semiautomatic rifles into fully automatic machine guns,
On March 14, 2020, prosecutors allege in court filings, Carrillo received a text message from Ivan Hunter, a Boogaloo Bois leader in Texas. The message reads like an instruction to get ready for action. “Start drafting that op,” Hunter wrote to Carrillo. “The one we talked about in December. I’ma green light some shit.” In response, Carrillo wrote, “Sounds good, bro!” Soon after, Carrillo sought to join the Grizzly Scouts, a newly-formed California militia group that had proclaimed its “affinity for Hawaiian shirts,” the best-known symbol of the Boogaloo Bois, in its profile page on mymilitia.com.
On April 10, 2020, according to records obtained by the news organizations, a member of the Grizzly Scouts who goes by the alias BoojerBro1776 emailed Carrillo an extensive packet of application materials, 31 pages in all. (“On boarding,” read the email’s subject line.) The documents, never before publicly disclosed, are an odd blend of corporate instruction manual and chilling playbook for armed military action.
New recruits were asked to abide by a social media policy and to sign both a non-disclosure agreement and a release of liability. The application itself offered this bit of corporate boilerplate: “If this application leads to employment, I understand that false or misleading information in my application or interview may result in my release.”
George Floyd’s death in Minneapolis on May 25, 15 days after Carrillo’s last training session with the Grizzly Scouts, galvanized the Boogaloo faithful. In online postings, they spoke of Floyd’s death not only as an example of egregious police misconduct but as an opportunity to stoke chaos that could be blamed on the Black Lives Matter movement.
Two days after Floyd’s death, Carrillo’s Boogaloo friend Ivan Hunter drove from Texas to Minneapolis. Armed with an AK-47-style semiautomatic rifle, Hunter fired off 13 rounds into an abandoned Minneapolis police precinct where hundreds of protesters had gathered, prosecutors allege. Prosecutors say Hunter yelled, “Justice for Floyd!” before disappearing into the night with several other Boogaloo Bois who had come to Minneapolis to provoke civil strife. Hunter, eventually arrested in San Antonio, was charged with participating in a riot and is being held without bail; his defense lawyer declined to comment.
“The Boogaloo revolution is against the government,” he explained, “but the police is basically the government’s dog on a leash.”
For Carrillo, Floyd’s death confirmed his view of the police as little more than willing instruments of a corrupt and tyrannical political order bent on destroying the Constitution.
Amaya said Floyd’s killing “unleashed the worst” in Carrillo, who in the days that followed behaved, she recalled, like a man who was preparing for battle. “It’s a great opportunity to target the specialty soup bois,” Carrillo wrote on his Facebook page on May 28, using Boogaloo slang for federal law enforcement agencies.
The next day, Carrillo left Amaya’s house. According to prosecutors, he picked up another Boogaloo Boi, Robert Justus Jr., and drove to downtown Oakland. It was 9:15 p.m., and crowds had gathered on Oakland’s streets to protest and mourn Floyd’s death. Meanwhile, blocks away, the two men drove a white Ford van around Oakland’s federal courthouse, where David Patrick Underwood, a federal protective security officer, staffed a two-person guard hut. Prosecutors say Carrillo was in the back seat near the sliding door, carrying a short-barreled rifle, a “ghost weapon” with no serial number, making it almost impossible to trace. According to the FBI, it was an illegal machine gun optimized to fire bursts of shots automatically, with an added silencer.
Hours before, Carrillo had posted on Facebook that if “it’s not kicking off in your hood then start it.” Now, according to prosecutors, Justus drove toward the guard hut while Carrillo slid the van’s door open and fired multiple bursts, killing Underwood and seriously wounding a second guard.
Four hours after Underwood’s death, Carrillo received a text message from Hunter urging him to attack police buildings, court records show.
“Who needs antifa to start riots when the police do it for you,” read one of his posts.
Via WhatsApp, they repeatedly made references to the “Boog” and “discussed committing acts of violence against law enforcement,” prosecutors allege.
He wanted to incite a second Civil War in the United States by killing police officers he viewed as enforcers of a corrupt and tyrannical political order — officers he described as “domestic enemies” of the constitution he professed to revere.
Carrillo appeared to be trying to guide his fellow Grizzly Scouts on how they could join forces with him in a coordinated attack on the law enforcement officers gathering to search for him.
They were responding to a call from a passerby who had spotted a suspicious white Ford van loaded with what appeared to be firearms and bomb-making material. When the deputies learned the van was registered to Carrillo’s father, they pulled up to his house to question him.
In interviews, Carrillo’s siblings describe a brother who suffered from years of severe mental health problems and didn’t get the support and medical treatment he needed from the Air Force. “I could see his pain,” Carrillo’s sister, Ruby, said.
Steven Carrillo, who was an Air Force sergeant with ties to the Boogaloo movement, got charged last year with murder and attempted murder in a shooting that resulted in the death of federal officer David Patrick Underwood. Underwood was standing guard at a federal building with his partner when a passenger inside of a white van opened fire. Underwood died of his injuries, and his partner had serious injuries that required surgery, the Justice Department said.
Four militia members tied to 'Boogaloo' movement accused of scheme to thwart investigation into deadly shooting | Washington Examiner
ProPublica, FRONTLINE and Berkeley Journalism’s Investigative Reporting Program also uncovered new evidence that some military service members have embraced extremist ideology.
Several things can be established from the article:
1 He was mentally ill and disturbed.
2 He hated the police.
3 the militia had zero OPSEC
4 It broke every rule of a militia including security and communications , Anything to do with bombings, buying/making of illegal's weapons,plans to use violence . Those are all red flags for a FBI set up .
5 groups such as the Oath keepers and proud boys are not anti police and neither are most right wing militas
6 He was a spanish speaking son of Mexican immigrants, Hardly the type to join a white racist organization.But more likely to join a group of la raza which corresponds to his idealogy.
7 actively supported and aided BLM in the attack on a federal courthouse not consistent with many right wing groups .
8 Article written by Berkley.
My opinion? the story stinks. I dont know how someone who is a hard core Ron Paul supporting constitutionalist who is anti police.
I know who is though. the defund the police , pigs in the blanket fry them like bacon , fuck the police, BLM protestors who have also killed police and burned thier buildings down .
The story conflicts with the actions, something is wrong here.
“The police are the guard dogs, ready to attack whenever the owner says, ‘Hey, sic ’em boy,’” Carrillo said in an interview,""
“This is what I came to fight — I’m sick of these goddamn police.”
Examples of this broader insurrection abound, from October’s foiled plot to abduct Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to the leading role militia groups such as the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers played in the violent takeover of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.
prosecutors said Carrillo and four members of the Grizzly Scouts, including its leader, “discussed tactics involving killing of police officers and other law enforcement.”
In nearly two hours of interviews conducted in Spanish and English,
According to family members, his father, an undocumented immigrant from Mexico
Given up by his parents as a toddler, Carrillo and Evan, his older brother, were taken in by other members of their family, and at age 5 he was sent with his brother to a tiny rural village in Jalisco, Mexico, where they lived on their grandparents’ farm.
When asked in an interview about his involvement with the Grizzly Scouts, Carrillo responded evasively. “How did you figure that out?” he asked in Spanish when first pressed about his ties to the group.
He became even more withdrawn, family members said, after his wife committed suicide in 2018 shortly after he confessed to cheating on her yet again. He spoke of wanting to kill himself and started living out of a van, leaving it to his in-laws to look after his two young children. “He was just in complete disconnect of how people should live and who he was,
Carrillo’s girlfriend, Silvia Amaya, said she noticed a distinct shift in Carrillo’s behavior at around this time. He struggled with insomnia and was increasingly “shut off in his own world,” she said in an interview.
The next month, prosecutors allege, he bought a $15 device that converts AR-15 semiautomatic rifles into fully automatic machine guns,
On March 14, 2020, prosecutors allege in court filings, Carrillo received a text message from Ivan Hunter, a Boogaloo Bois leader in Texas. The message reads like an instruction to get ready for action. “Start drafting that op,” Hunter wrote to Carrillo. “The one we talked about in December. I’ma green light some shit.” In response, Carrillo wrote, “Sounds good, bro!” Soon after, Carrillo sought to join the Grizzly Scouts, a newly-formed California militia group that had proclaimed its “affinity for Hawaiian shirts,” the best-known symbol of the Boogaloo Bois, in its profile page on mymilitia.com.
On April 10, 2020, according to records obtained by the news organizations, a member of the Grizzly Scouts who goes by the alias BoojerBro1776 emailed Carrillo an extensive packet of application materials, 31 pages in all. (“On boarding,” read the email’s subject line.) The documents, never before publicly disclosed, are an odd blend of corporate instruction manual and chilling playbook for armed military action.
New recruits were asked to abide by a social media policy and to sign both a non-disclosure agreement and a release of liability. The application itself offered this bit of corporate boilerplate: “If this application leads to employment, I understand that false or misleading information in my application or interview may result in my release.”
George Floyd’s death in Minneapolis on May 25, 15 days after Carrillo’s last training session with the Grizzly Scouts, galvanized the Boogaloo faithful. In online postings, they spoke of Floyd’s death not only as an example of egregious police misconduct but as an opportunity to stoke chaos that could be blamed on the Black Lives Matter movement.
Two days after Floyd’s death, Carrillo’s Boogaloo friend Ivan Hunter drove from Texas to Minneapolis. Armed with an AK-47-style semiautomatic rifle, Hunter fired off 13 rounds into an abandoned Minneapolis police precinct where hundreds of protesters had gathered, prosecutors allege. Prosecutors say Hunter yelled, “Justice for Floyd!” before disappearing into the night with several other Boogaloo Bois who had come to Minneapolis to provoke civil strife. Hunter, eventually arrested in San Antonio, was charged with participating in a riot and is being held without bail; his defense lawyer declined to comment.
“The Boogaloo revolution is against the government,” he explained, “but the police is basically the government’s dog on a leash.”
For Carrillo, Floyd’s death confirmed his view of the police as little more than willing instruments of a corrupt and tyrannical political order bent on destroying the Constitution.
Amaya said Floyd’s killing “unleashed the worst” in Carrillo, who in the days that followed behaved, she recalled, like a man who was preparing for battle. “It’s a great opportunity to target the specialty soup bois,” Carrillo wrote on his Facebook page on May 28, using Boogaloo slang for federal law enforcement agencies.
The next day, Carrillo left Amaya’s house. According to prosecutors, he picked up another Boogaloo Boi, Robert Justus Jr., and drove to downtown Oakland. It was 9:15 p.m., and crowds had gathered on Oakland’s streets to protest and mourn Floyd’s death. Meanwhile, blocks away, the two men drove a white Ford van around Oakland’s federal courthouse, where David Patrick Underwood, a federal protective security officer, staffed a two-person guard hut. Prosecutors say Carrillo was in the back seat near the sliding door, carrying a short-barreled rifle, a “ghost weapon” with no serial number, making it almost impossible to trace. According to the FBI, it was an illegal machine gun optimized to fire bursts of shots automatically, with an added silencer.
Hours before, Carrillo had posted on Facebook that if “it’s not kicking off in your hood then start it.” Now, according to prosecutors, Justus drove toward the guard hut while Carrillo slid the van’s door open and fired multiple bursts, killing Underwood and seriously wounding a second guard.
Four hours after Underwood’s death, Carrillo received a text message from Hunter urging him to attack police buildings, court records show.
“Who needs antifa to start riots when the police do it for you,” read one of his posts.
Via WhatsApp, they repeatedly made references to the “Boog” and “discussed committing acts of violence against law enforcement,” prosecutors allege.
He wanted to incite a second Civil War in the United States by killing police officers he viewed as enforcers of a corrupt and tyrannical political order — officers he described as “domestic enemies” of the constitution he professed to revere.
Carrillo appeared to be trying to guide his fellow Grizzly Scouts on how they could join forces with him in a coordinated attack on the law enforcement officers gathering to search for him.
They were responding to a call from a passerby who had spotted a suspicious white Ford van loaded with what appeared to be firearms and bomb-making material. When the deputies learned the van was registered to Carrillo’s father, they pulled up to his house to question him.
In interviews, Carrillo’s siblings describe a brother who suffered from years of severe mental health problems and didn’t get the support and medical treatment he needed from the Air Force. “I could see his pain,” Carrillo’s sister, Ruby, said.
Steven Carrillo, who was an Air Force sergeant with ties to the Boogaloo movement, got charged last year with murder and attempted murder in a shooting that resulted in the death of federal officer David Patrick Underwood. Underwood was standing guard at a federal building with his partner when a passenger inside of a white van opened fire. Underwood died of his injuries, and his partner had serious injuries that required surgery, the Justice Department said.
Four militia members tied to 'Boogaloo' movement accused of scheme to thwart investigation into deadly shooting | Washington Examiner
ProPublica, FRONTLINE and Berkeley Journalism’s Investigative Reporting Program also uncovered new evidence that some military service members have embraced extremist ideology.
Several things can be established from the article:
1 He was mentally ill and disturbed.
2 He hated the police.
3 the militia had zero OPSEC
4 It broke every rule of a militia including security and communications , Anything to do with bombings, buying/making of illegal's weapons,plans to use violence . Those are all red flags for a FBI set up .
5 groups such as the Oath keepers and proud boys are not anti police and neither are most right wing militas
6 He was a spanish speaking son of Mexican immigrants, Hardly the type to join a white racist organization.But more likely to join a group of la raza which corresponds to his idealogy.
7 actively supported and aided BLM in the attack on a federal courthouse not consistent with many right wing groups .
8 Article written by Berkley.
My opinion? the story stinks. I dont know how someone who is a hard core Ron Paul supporting constitutionalist who is anti police.
I know who is though. the defund the police , pigs in the blanket fry them like bacon , fuck the police, BLM protestors who have also killed police and burned thier buildings down .
The story conflicts with the actions, something is wrong here.
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More:
oaklandside.org
A far-right militia came to Oakland to attack police last year
Members of the “Grizzly Scouts” hunted law enforcement during the 2020 protests, and one of them allegedly murdered a federal guard.
oaklandside.org