Bounty hunters charged with 10 misdemeanors for terrorizing incident in January
- Thread starter Saltwater60
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Since you won't get off this distraction despite being proven wrong, let's propose a question:
A driver hits your vehicle and causes $1,000 in damages. How much should they be liable for?
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
Thank God. Wonder what chevusa will say now.
Bounty hunter indicted on 10 misdemeanors for ‘terrifying’ armed January raid
A Buffalo bounty hunter is charged with 10 misdemeanors for his alleged participation in an armed raid in January of a duplex less than 3 miles south of downtown.www.wivb.com
Only the one? There were two.
The headline is misleading..
Obviously if you read the article. The scumbag homeowners were the ones arrested for harboring a fugitive.. oh wait that's not what they did??
Obviously if you read the article. The scumbag homeowners were the ones arrested for harboring a fugitive.. oh wait that's not what they did??
spat
.700 Nitro Express
I would rather the pilot were competent than licensed.
Same for doctors, electricians, anybody.
The license is like the restraining order. It's just a piece of paper.
It doesn’t represent skill, it represents a bended knee to the crown.
Or are you going to honestly try to tell us that a driver's license means you are a competent driver ?
A short trip in city traffic will demonstrate the error in that statement. Many many examples of the error.
No, licenses are a terrible infringement. We should require competence, not paperwork. If your house burns down from faulty wiring are you going to say "good thing that electrician was licensed" ?
I know plenty of places wired by non licensed individuals that have worked just fine since the dawn of electricity. They weren't licensed, but they were competent.
So, *if* you're right about the licensing being the issue here (and I don’t think you are) that just means we need to fix the laws.
This is like arguing whether the guy wasn't charged because he had the epoxy on his mag release, or if the nut would have been enough on it's own.
They can be an amusing discussion, but the real point is that both are an infringement and we shouldn’t stand for either.
I can promise this...
More charges are on the way.
Funny how the criminal justice works sometimes.
Soon, nearly all that participated will be charged. Wonder what will be said when the remainder get charged???
More charges are on the way.
Funny how the criminal justice works sometimes.
Soon, nearly all that participated will be charged. Wonder what will be said when the remainder get charged???
In my humble opinion, bounty hunters are on the same level as government snitches. They should be shunned not celebrated.
Depick
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I didn’t see it anywhere but were this supposed bounty hunters credentials or lack thereof ever checked at the scene? It seems that should’ve been one of the first things to take place in such an encounter.
I am ignorant on the laws or regulations for this type of work but I’d imagine they have to have some type of credentials.
I am ignorant on the laws or regulations for this type of work but I’d imagine they have to have some type of credentials.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
There are many residences in western NY where those guys would have been stopped at gun point, justifiably, licensed and not, and a good probability they would have been shot justifiably, licensed and not.
Robin
Robin
Hmmm it's almost like you called this months ago..
Then the "expert" said you were wrong.
But here we are ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Saltwater60
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I didn’t make the headline. My headline is exactly what the articles headline is.
He was acting as a bounty hunter so therefore the news deemed him one. Do you get a license to murder someone?
Think what you want that’s fine. If you’re ok with what they did I’m sorry for you.
You are a bounty hunter?
License or not these charges would be the same:
- Two counts of criminal trespass in the second degree for allegedly entering the two homes in the duplex on Oakdale Place in the Seneca-Babcock community.
- Four counts of menacing in the second degree for allegedly pointing what appeared to be a shotgun or rifle at four adults.
- Three counts of endangering the welfare of children who were inside the homes during the raid.
- One count of criminal mischief in the fourth degree for alleged damage to an upstairs door.
Celt
.338 Win Mag
Thats what Im waiting for before i respond.
Saltwater60
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“Bounty hunter” pleads guilty to all charges. Can’t wait to hear how I was wrong on this one.
‘Terrifying’ raid by unlicensed bounty hunters in Buffalo ends with guilty plea
Unlicensed bounty hunter involved in January raid of Buffalo duplex pleaded guilty Monday to 10 misdemeanors.
www.wivb.com
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Bounty hunter plead guilty to all charges. Can’t wait to hear how I was wrong on this one.
‘Terrifying’ raid by unlicensed bounty hunters in Buffalo ends with guilty plea
Unlicensed bounty hunter involved in January raid of Buffalo duplex pleaded guilty Monday to 10 misdemeanors.www.wivb.com
Seems like more than one of us will be on the correct side on this one.
Saltwater60
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Does say it was the unlicensed one, but here is the DA’s take on it so I’ll go with that over the forum members on here.
But Flynn disagreed with Malone’s take. In fact, White was not even charged with failing to have a state license, Flynn said.
“He was charged with the more egregious misdemeanors here,” Flynn said Monday. “I know that the defense attorney kind of made out that if he was licensed this would have been fine. The answer to that is unequivocally not true. It doesn’t matter whether he was licensed or not. Even if he was licensed, what he did was still illegal, and he would have been charged for it as well.”
Unlicensed bounty hunter gets jail time for armed, overnight raid of Buffalo home
Overnight in January 2021, Dennis White, 36, entered a home on Oakdale Place in search of a man wanted on a bench warrant out of Lebanon County, Pennsylvania.
www.wivb.com
And now, a bit of jail time for this hero.
Saltwater60
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I meant to post the follow up yesterday and got busy. Thanks.Unlicensed bounty hunter gets jail time for armed, overnight raid of Buffalo home
Overnight in January 2021, Dennis White, 36, entered a home on Oakdale Place in search of a man wanted on a bench warrant out of Lebanon County, Pennsylvania.
And now, a bit of jail time for this hero.
I think they were still looking for the other guy, but never found out who he was. I’m wondering if that’s the questions he refused to answer.
What a fool this guy is. The fugitive won't get any sympathy from me, but maybe if this guy had been licensed he would have known he couldn't enter that specific home. It's a slap in the face to those who have lost nights and weekends going through the proper training and licensing process.
After everything has shaken out it would seem that the fugitive did not list this address as his residence as a condition of his bail, which would have allowed the raid by licensed agents. Of course that was unknown at the time of the original story. So I wonder how they came upon this house and believed him to be there.
Finally, this dummy essentially got himself his jail sentence by not cooperating, not showing up for appointments, not answering calls. What an idiot. I'm glad the properly licensed individuals faced no charges. Their job is hard enough. Was there ever any update on the fugitive? Was he apprehended? Did he have the same or a similar name to his brother? This is why it's important to do your homework!
After everything has shaken out it would seem that the fugitive did not list this address as his residence as a condition of his bail, which would have allowed the raid by licensed agents. Of course that was unknown at the time of the original story. So I wonder how they came upon this house and believed him to be there.
Finally, this dummy essentially got himself his jail sentence by not cooperating, not showing up for appointments, not answering calls. What an idiot. I'm glad the properly licensed individuals faced no charges. Their job is hard enough. Was there ever any update on the fugitive? Was he apprehended? Did he have the same or a similar name to his brother? This is why it's important to do your homework!
Saltwater60
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If what you say is true the licenses individual committed some of the same crimes/offenses as the unlicensed individual did by entering the home that was not listed on the bail paperwork. Also this was brought up multiple times during the original story because they entered a tenants home.
I don’t think the licensed BH was ever charged because they could never figure out who he was last time I looked. I’m not sure if that’s still true or not to this day, but last I knew they had not ID’d him.
Iy sure is an interesting one.
If that was the case he would be very easy to ID. They know who they work for. There is a database of everyone who is licensed. It would take 5 minutes of “police work”. Isn’t there video footage as well?
When you do things like this and in that line of work you’ve gotta be right every time. 100%. Someone should have done their homework a little better.
Bail jumper cops are lower than unarmed security guards.
They are a laughing stock. I used to watch Dog, the bounty hunter just for a good laugh.
They are a laughing stock. I used to watch Dog, the bounty hunter just for a good laugh.
Saltwater60
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How would they know? Maybe the guy that was unlicensed provided his name and the licensed guy never did? So what if they have a video I saw it and so did you. I couldn’t I’d some one from that could you?
Clearly these guys were not above board so anything is just pure speculation, but in general the pair get charged with the crimes so even if one was licensed shouldn’t the other guy or the company be culpable for sending an unlicensed guy to do the work?
Also as you stated above the address wasn’t on the paperwork so they had no right to enter that property. As far as I remember they both did and they both entered the rental property so by your own admission they both committed crimes as was talked about and mentioned early, but was dismissed by you earlier in the thread if I remember correctly.
7th paragraph down says second guy was not identified. I get that was a few months ago in November, but as stated that’s what I last heard. Also this happened in February of 2021 so they had over 9 months to IF the second man. I think it’s safe to say the BPD has moved on from that search at this point. Maybe neither one were licensed?? Also as mentioned the judge was pissed about him not answering the parole officers questions and something leads me to believe who was the second guy was one of those questions. Maybe that was part of the get out of jail free card? Things we will possibly never have answers to.
‘Terrifying’ raid by unlicensed bounty hunters in Buffalo ends with guilty plea
Unlicensed bounty hunter involved in January raid of Buffalo duplex pleaded guilty Monday to 10 misdemeanors.
www.wivb.com
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So why wasn’t guy #2 charged? Makes no sense. And no the probation officers weren’t asking who the other guy was. They don’t investigate crimes. They make sure you’re tucked into bed by 9:00 when you should be.How would they know? Maybe the guy that was unlicensed provided his name and the licensed guy never did? So what if they have a video I saw it and so did you. I couldn’t I’d some one from that could you?
Clearly these guys were not above board so anything is just pure speculation, but in general the pair get charged with the crimes so even if one was licensed shouldn’t the other guy or the company be culpable for sending an unlicensed guy to do the work?
Also as you stated above the address wasn’t on the paperwork so they had no right to enter that property. As far as I remember they both did and they both entered the rental property so by your own admission they both committed crimes as was talked about and mentioned early, but was dismissed by you earlier in the thread if I remember correctly.
7th paragraph down says second guy was not identified. I get that was a few months ago in November, but as stated that’s what I last heard. Also this happened in February of 2021 so they had over 9 months to IF the second man. I think it’s safe to say the BPD has moved on from that search at this point. Maybe neither one were licensed?? Also as mentioned the judge was pissed about him not answering the parole officers questions and something leads me to believe who was the second guy was one of those questions. Maybe that was part of the get out of jail free card? Things we will possibly never have answers to.
‘Terrifying’ raid by unlicensed bounty hunters in Buffalo ends with guilty plea
Unlicensed bounty hunter involved in January raid of Buffalo duplex pleaded guilty Monday to 10 misdemeanors.www.wivb.com
When the thread started there was outrage because “they didn’t have a warrant”. My reply was they don’t need a warrant. That is absolutely the case if they are licensed and acting accordingly. (Correct address, correct person, valid paperwork, etc.) That is all. Bounty hunters don’t need warrants and they don’t get warrants. They aren’t the “government”.
Saltwater60
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He wasn’t charged because they never found out who he was. Can’t charge some one if they don’t know who they are right? The date of the incident/crime was February 8, 2021 and the article stating they didn’t know who guy #2 was 11/28ish/2021. They didn’t know who the second guy was after 9.5 months so they will never know who he was.
My point is you said this above “After everything has shaken out it would seem that the fugitive did not list this address as his residence as a condition of his bail, which would have allowed the raid by licensed agents. Of course that was unknown at the time of the original story. So I wonder how they came upon this house and believed him to be there.” And if this is true the other guy #2 broke the rules even if he was licensed and if I remember correctly they both entered the tenants home so that would mean licensed or unlicensed per your they both committed a crime.
That’s my point.
I’m also 100% sure that I brought up they had no right to enter the tenants residence.
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Saltwater60
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Here’s your statement from earlier. So we’re the actions legal or not? You say here they are legal, but now today you say it’s not because they had no right to enter the address. What is it? Legal or not?
Would have been legal if licensed and the other factors were met, like it being the right house. Things shake out over the course of time. Point was no warrant is needed or even available.