BREAKING NEWS FROM Target Sports USA (NY Ammo Shipping)

[Saltwater60]

Is the FFL going to transfer it to me for free?
Is the FFL going to transfer it to me without my having to go through all of this unConstitutional bullshit NY is forcing on us at gunpoint?

NO?

Then no, I'm not having it shipped to an FFL. I'll just drive down to PA myself and get it.

That line was taken out of context because you didn’t read the reply or maybe it wasn’t super clear. I meant most companies won’t be losing much money in the end and I was not referring to individuals. I feel many individuals will still have the ammo shipped to an FFL. I will do the same but the drive to PA will likely cost me more than an ffl transfer.
I said this because I have heard more than a few times that so and so company can’t make it without the buyers in NYS and how much money they will be losing. That maybe so for a few companies that did business with NYS but there are many that do no business with NYS and seem to function just fine. TSUSA and a few others may feel the pinch on this but only from a few like minded folks like us.

 

[Grimscale]

That line was taken out of context because you didn’t read the reply or maybe it wasn’t super clear. I meant most companies won’t be losing much money in the end and I was not referring to individuals.

I understood your context. I used that line as a starting point to explain why I, and many others both here on the forum and in real life, will not be using an FFL.
I'm sure most of the larger ammo companies won't bat an eye at losing NYer's business. At least not right now. As these draconian infringements expand into other States they will eventually have to decide on tightening their belt or fighting back.
But smaller companies can, and will, end up going under because of this. The mom & pop type of gun store will be just a memory in NY very soon.

And, though a drive to PA may cost more than shipping to an FFL, I will be able to rest easy knowing NY is not getting tax money to further infringe on my Rights, nor will they be getting lists of what firearms I may own based on my ammo purchases. Plus I get the enjoyment of driving around in the mountains of PA.

 

[nortatoga]

It's owned by a relatively young (under 40) Bosnian immigrant couple ( Miodrag and Dajana Delmic). I don't remember them posting here.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/miodrag-delmic-84215128

He goes by the name Sam if I recall, I met him and his wife at the one Gun Show held at the indoor soccer range in Clifton Park years ago when he was just starting out, He was a really nice guy!!

 

[Steal2B]

He goes by the name Sam if I recall, I met him and his wife at the one Gun Show held at the indoor soccer range in Clifton Park years ago when he was just starting out, He was a really nice guy!!

Have a niece who was in college with him, I met her while at one of their affiliate investments. He was about 25 when he started the mail order ammo TSUSA and believe he is not 40 yet. I got the impression they worked hard, and appreciated their customers. They have multiple diversified business ventures now and the ammo warehouse and brick & mortar leo store are not their only passion or priority.

 

[nortatoga]

Have a niece who was in college with him, I met her while at one of their affiliate investments. He was about 25 when he started the mail order ammo TSUSA and believe he is not 40 yet. I got the impression they worked hard, and appreciated their customers. They have multiple diversified business ventures now and the ammo warehouse and brick & mortar leo store are not their only passion or priority.

It was about 15 years or so that I met him, yes. I also bought a pair of Nikon scopes at a good price with free shipping and no tax.

 

[Steal2B]

It was about 15 years or so that I met him, yes. I also bought a pair of Nikon scopes at a good price with free shipping and no tax.

They fought the sales tax issue with the previous NYAG for quite awhile too. (FUES)

I really like the manager and staff at their brick and mortar affiliate, usually finding good prices for something that I did not walk in there to buy or pick up.

I also liked their customer service approach the few times I reached out ... but they knew from their computer screen when they picked up the phone I was a frequent customer (I just looked at my order history ... over the years my wife and I may have paid for a good chunk of the cars the owners drive.)

 

[beebee]

Look it is what it is... NY is a lost cause.. bad and getting worse by the day...I see NO way out at this point.. We are outvoted and always will be when it comes to gun ownership and our 2A rights... however, concerning ammo price and availability I have found lately that some of the "big box" retailers are actually competitive with online sellers price wise, and on some stuff even better...Problem is, you simply can't get "bulk discounts" as you used to get online.. However, if you need 4 or 5 boxes of a common caliber, there have been some better deals lately... Last time I was at a "big box", they were absolutely loaded with all kinds of ammo, aisle after aisle full to the brink with about everything any shooter might need, and in common calibers [9mm .223] had a big selection of brands... Prices are NOT what they were pre covid, but they have really come down substantially from a year ago. When I look online no matter where, all the target grade ammo thats well priced is listed as "out of stock", with only the "premium" stuff available at 3x the price...The biggest issue I have seen locally are that the large 'buckets and bricks" deals on common rounds are gone... Ammo mfgs. seem to no longer want any part of that.. You want ammo?-Fine we sell it but you pay full rate per round, no bulk packaging deals...

I have been seeing some fair deals lately, so its not all bad news .. Several months ago, I scored I dunno, 8 or 10 boxes of .32acp at $21 a box, in Pa,. Online at that time it was $50 a box.. Didn't need it, had plenty, but the price was right... You really just have to shop around these days... Lets face it, the days of good Euro ammo at $9.99 a box with free shipping over $100 are gone and will never be back.. Do some digging around, there are some fair deals out there fairly locally if you look... bob

 

[Saltwater60]

Look it is what it is... NY is a lost cause.. bad and getting worse by the day...I see NO way out at this point.. We are outvoted and always will be when it comes to gun ownership and our 2A rights... however, concerning ammo price and availability I have found lately that some of the "big box" retailers are actually competitive with online sellers price wise, and on some stuff even better...Problem is, you simply can't get "bulk discounts" as you used to get online.. However, if you need 4 or 5 boxes of a common caliber, there have been some better deals lately... Last time I was at a "big box", they were absolutely loaded with all kinds of ammo, aisle after aisle full to the brink with about everything any shooter might need, and in common calibers [9mm .223] had a big selection of brands... Prices are NOT what they were pre covid, but they have really come down substantially from a year ago. When I look online no matter where, all the target grade ammo thats well priced is listed as "out of stock", with only the "premium" stuff available at 3x the price...The biggest issue I have seen locally are that the large 'buckets and bricks" deals on common rounds are gone... Ammo mfgs. seem to no longer want any part of that.. You want ammo?-Fine we sell it but you pay full rate per round, no bulk packaging deals...

I have been seeing some fair deals lately, so its not all bad news .. Several months ago, I scored I dunno, 8 or 10 boxes of .32acp at $21 a box, in Pa,. Online at that time it was $50 a box.. Didn't need it, had plenty, but the price was right... You really just have to shop around these days... Lets face it, the days of good Euro ammo at $9.99 a box with free shipping over $100 are gone and will never be back.. Do some digging around, there are some fair deals out there fairly locally if you look... bob

The prices locally are getting good because all the guys like me refuse to buy it now. Yes they are stocked and the prices are ok, but buying on line was still cheaper for me because I always bought cases.
Here is the problem, I refuse to provide my information to buy ammo so prices and availability in NYS mean nothing to me. I have what I need and I have vowed to not give NYS sales tax when I can.

 

[SonOfSun]

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