Bust In Queens Finds 25 Firearms Despite NYC Gun Laws

[Catskillkid]

Bust In Queens Finds 25 Firearms Despite NYC Gun Laws

I guess they're illegal but they aren't registered with the city? Tough to see from the photo but I think there's only a few semi autos.

 

[BDinPutnam]

OMG at least a couple of those (that aren't air rifles) have BAYONETS on them. HORRORS!

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Fake News. The law says it ain't so.

 

[stokes]

John Gotti's old neighborhood,go figure.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

uh oh...pistol grip on one and high capacity mags....no bail..he'll be out for breakfast

 

[Darth]

What dd the alleged assault have to do with the guns in question?

 

[GOPerfect]

Thank the heavens these are off the "streets".

 

[C3D]

What a shame, always hate to see nice guns headed for the smelter.

 

[DrBleachCocktail]

Does it boggles anybody else mind that NY governor really think that reduce crime and bad guys with guns we limit good guys with guns and make it harder for NYS + NYC to get gun. This is a prime example of WHY gun control don’t work. Feel bad for Canada.

 

[RooftopKorean]

I lose more respect for law enforcement each day when they use the media to misrepresent a "bust" and take a picture with a display like this.

Like the article and like some have already mentioned that the maybe 10% of that is illegal in NYS. MAYBE the rest is illegal in the city because they weren't registered under the bullshit administrative code. But since there is no clarification in the article we will never know.

Granted, if the idiot really did assault the "victim" and opened himself up to the search then it's on him. What I want to know is what grounds did they obtain a search warrant? I didn't know an accusation of an assault was grounds to get a search warrant. Any LEO care to clarify?

 

[RooftopKorean]

Feel bad for Canada.

Trudeau is a liberal cunt, why is this any surprise?

 

[GOPerfect]

I lose more respect for law enforcement each day when they use the media to misrepresent a "bust" and take a picture with a display like this.

Like the article and like some have already mentioned that the maybe 10% of that is illegal in NYS. MAYBE the rest is illegal in the city because they weren't registered under the bullshit administrative code. But since there is no clarification in the article we will never know.

Granted, if the idiot really did assault the "victim" and opened himself up to the search then it's on him. What I want to know is what grounds did they obtain a search warrant? I didn't know an accusation of an assault was grounds to get a search warrant. Any LEO care to clarify?

Officers on the job lose the same amount of respect. ALL that I know hate these dog and pony type photo ops. These events make the situation look even more ridiculous than they are.

 

[GOPerfect]

I lose more respect for law enforcement each day when they use the media to misrepresent a "bust" and take a picture with a display like this.

Like the article and like some have already mentioned that the maybe 10% of that is illegal in NYS. MAYBE the rest is illegal in the city because they weren't registered under the bullshit administrative code. But since there is no clarification in the article we will never know.

Granted, if the idiot really did assault the "victim" and opened himself up to the search then it's on him. What I want to know is what grounds did they obtain a search warrant? I didn't know an accusation of an assault was grounds to get a search warrant. Any LEO care to clarify?

Your warrant question....


While conducting their investigation, police say that the officers saw firearms in plain sight. At 11:19 p.m. that same day, officers from the 102nd Precinct executed a search warrant and uncovered 25 guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

 

[ProgSpear]

I hate when supposedly pro-gun press falls into the terminology that the leftist grabbers use. For example;

"Plus, we have instances where actual arsenals are found in places where guns are practically verboten. "

Which I would have written as;

"Plus, we have instances where actual arsenals moderately nice collections are found in places where guns are practically verboten. "

 

[RooftopKorean]

Your warrant question....


While conducting their investigation, police say that the officers saw firearms in plain sight. At 11:19 p.m. that same day, officers from the 102nd Precinct executed a search warrant and uncovered 25 guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

So because you have a gun in plain sight (one with no exact description) that is probable enough cause for a search warrant? Without even questioning the "perp" if they have proper paperwork/permits/licenses?

So if I was cleaning one of my licensed fire arms and its out on my table, law enforcement happens to come investigate a false accusation against me that gives them probable cause to obtain and execute a search warrant? That sounds like a stretch to me.

 

[GOPerfect]

So because you have a gun in plain sight (one with no exact description) that is probable enough cause for a search warrant? Without even questioning the person as to if the "perp" has proper paperwork/permits/license to have it?

Apparently in NY Shitty.

Granted, the Police were called out to do an investigation for an alleged assault. They have to respond, cannot be ignored. I gather from the story, the police arrived,, and saw guns out and about. Due to the assault, probable cause comes into play.

 

[Robin]

Thank the heavens these are off the "streets".

Um, they were off the street's.
robin

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Trudeau will blame it on USA and Washington will have to close the "Canadian Loophole" More bad things in progress

 

[Vapor]

I see some nice bolt guns and an m1a that probably will get destoryed.

That is a tragedy.

 

[@thewheels]

Why take the ammo? Is ammo illegal in NY Shitty?

 

[nortatoga]

I see some nice bolt guns and an m1a that probably will get destoryed.

That is a tragedy.

Only if he surrenders them. The SCOTUS in a unanimous decision ruled they can be transfer to someone else.

Henderson v. United States (2015) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Vapor]

Only if he surrenders them. The SCOTUS in a unanimous decision ruled they can be transfer to someone else.

Henderson v. United States (2015) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Let's hope they find new homes then.

 

[Toecutter]

“ alleged assault”- allegedly;used to convey that something is claimed to be the case or have taken place, although there is no proof.

someone accused him of striking him , did he actually do it? Was it in self defense? This man had his property stolen from him by his government. You really believe he will have his property returned?

 

[Airborneguy]

I lose more respect for law enforcement each day when they use the media to misrepresent a "bust" and take a picture with a display like this.

Like the article and like some have already mentioned that the maybe 10% of that is illegal in NYS. MAYBE the rest is illegal in the city because they weren't registered under the bullshit administrative code. But since there is no clarification in the article we will never know.

Granted, if the idiot really did assault the "victim" and opened himself up to the search then it's on him. What I want to know is what grounds did they obtain a search warrant? I didn't know an accusation of an assault was grounds to get a search warrant. Any LEO care to clarify?

What’s to clarify? You explained yourself quite well.

Perp or not, this story is an excuse for you to justify your view of law enforcement. What is there for me to clarify?

 

[RooftopKorean]

What’s to clarify? You explained yourself quite well.

Perp or not, this story is an excuse for you to justify your view of law enforcement. What is there for me to clarify?

I don't generally have a poor outlook on ALL LEO. I work along side LEO everyday. I just don't like when things like this happen and they always make a grand display for pictures to be taken. I just wanted clarification for the reason to obtain a search warrant but GoPerfect kind of answered that.

Like I said, in my hypothetical - What's to prevent someone from accusing me (of for that fact, any of us) of something and PD from rolling in to investigate when one of us is in the middle of cleaning one of our legally owned firearms? Just because of an accusation and because we own firearms that allows the issuance and execution of a search warrant?

It just seems a little fucked up is all I'm saying and since I am not in law enforcement I was asking for clarity.

 

[Airborneguy]

We’ve hashed this over a million times before here, but in summary, you think this way because you aren’t a perp, but yet still equate yourself with these stories, which is dumb IMO.

The odds of you being falsely accused of an assault as are astronomical as the odds that this guy DIDN’T commit the assault he is accused of (a felony btw since he used an object).

It is very, very, very unlikely that an assault in progress (read the story) is being pinned on an innocent man by crooked cops. This isn’t a situation where the guy went to a police station attempting to tell a story. This is a 911 call that was responded to quickly (hence, in progress). The cops would have seen injuries, photographed them, most likely encountered witnesses, etc.

The biggest frustration of being a member of law enforcement and trying to stay amicable with fellow gun people is the constant paranoia that comes from incorrectly equating what happens to perps who commit crimes with themselves. It’s mind boggling.

 

[RooftopKorean]

Not saying there are crooked cops trying to pin a crime on an innocent man, but what if there was miscommunication or misunderstanding.

Again the article is vague in description and doesn't even specifically state assault in progress but I can be interpreting incorrectly.

I guess there is an element of paranoia because situations like this in my mind are possible due to political douchery by the left and shit like red flag laws.

In my mind it's no different than a disgruntled employee or ex-girlfriend saying, "X threatened to kill me and X has guns."

 

[Airborneguy]

I don’t go down the what if route anymore. There’s hundreds of threads you can read over where every angle has been explored.

Bottom line is that gun persecution has led to some people empathizing with perps as if this could happen to them when reality is almost invariably the opposite.

 

[RooftopKorean]

I'll never sympathize with a perp when all facts are on the table, NEVER.

I obviously haven't been around on the forums as long as you so I haven't seen all these threads you speak of.

 

[Marine Cpl]

We’ve hashed this over a million times before here, but in summary, you think this way because you aren’t a perp, but yet still equate yourself with these stories, which is dumb IMO.

Everyone could be a perp. You may even know these guys personally AB.