California Mag ban ruled unconstitutional
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Bob
6.5 Creedmoor
Meaning: not a damned thing.
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
meaning: see you in the 9th circuit
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livingston
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Joe Biden from Rose Garden: ‘If You Need 80 Shots in a Magazine You Shouldn’t Own a Gun’
While announcing the launch of an executive level gun control office–the Office of Gun Violence Prevention–President Joe Biden called again for a ban on “assault weapons” and said, “If you need 80 shots in a magazine you shouldn’t own a gun.”
Biden: 'If You Need 80 Shots in a Magazine You Shouldn't Own a Gun'
On Friday Joe Biden called again for a ban on "assault weapons" and said, "If you need 80 shots in a magazine you shouldn't own a gun."
www.breitbart.com
livingston
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Pg 39
"Because the Bruen approach places the burden upon the government to justify its
firearm restrictions by demonstrating that they are consistent with the Nation?s historical
tradition of firearm regulation as understood at the founding, and because judicial review
under the Bruen standard is in its infancy, the State has been given generous time and
leeway to satisfy its new burden. The State?s experts have been studying historic firearm
regulations for more than 20 years. This Court has reviewed all of the declarations of
the State?s experts and historians as well as many of their cited sources, and finds no
support for the State?s ban."
Judge, Benitez known by some as Saint Benitez
livingston
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California Mag Ban Massive Win, Duncan V. Bonta, Benitez Order Published
livingston
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From Calguns forum
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I have read this and it is well written, it was worth the time we waited for this decision, and if I were the defendant in this case I would probably be embarrassed to appeal this decision, The reason being is how do I defend the reasoning of my appeal, of course I would be butt hurt over the ruling. But as BRETTA SAID "IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME, THEN DON'T DO THE CRIME" Now with that said we all know that BOB BONTA is be holden to GOVERNOR NUSOM and the LEGISLATORS and they all have to show the anti 2A organizations and individuals that donated people's hard earned money to fund this agenda that there might be a spark of hope in filling an appeal and praying for a P.I., when in fact they know there isn't. Meanwhile they will dine on the crackers, caviar and imported wine while being able to smoke Cuban Cigars afterwards. At the expense of the anti 2A organizations, donating individuals and the taxpayers. What I have read I know it will be shot down at the 9th three panel Judiciary in the favor of the plaintiffs. Also if the en banc panel rules either way it ends up in the SCOTUS and this ruling becomes law of the land. ====≈================================///////=======/========/////////////////////// Well Written Honorable Benitez well written (And I hope I can speak for us all) as all of us that Support the Second Amendment Thank you Honorable Judge Benitez |
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
Cali wants to appeal This ..
SCOUTS will not take it ..
the Ruling will stand
unless Houcal gets involved
SCOUTS will not take it ..
the Ruling will stand
unless Houcal gets involved
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
You mean Hochul won’t abide by it and we’re screwed anyway.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Who Carrie’s an 80-round mag with them? I carry 51-rounds with me everywhere I go. How many do cops carry and how often do they miss in shoot outs? I’m not saying I’ll be 100% in a shootout but the facts are the facts.Joe Biden from Rose Garden: ‘If You Need 80 Shots in a Magazine You Shouldn’t Own a Gun’
While announcing the launch of an executive level gun control office–the Office of Gun Violence Prevention–President Joe Biden called again for a ban on “assault weapons” and said, “If you need 80 shots in a magazine you shouldn’t own a gun.”
Biden: 'If You Need 80 Shots in a Magazine You Shouldn't Own a Gun'
On Friday Joe Biden called again for a ban on "assault weapons" and said, "If you need 80 shots in a magazine you shouldn't own a gun."
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
What happens in the 9th circuit stays in the 9th ... Am I correct
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
They might not want to appeal because if SCOTUS does take it it would apply to the whole country
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Yes but if either side appeals to SCOTUS , it would apply to the whole country if they take it.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Not sure SCOTUS wouldn't take it.
With the current makeup, they might take it just for the opportunity to drive another nail in the coffin.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
I have my PS90.
It's not an EDC, but I do keep a spare mag loaded next to the nightstand.
Since the standard mag for them is 50 rounds, that's 100 total.
Not really because I ever think I'll need that many during a bump in the night situation, but the possibility of a mag related malfunction calls for a spare, and it might as well be full.
Why a PS90 ?
Because I don't have the resources for a G11 LoL.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
California won’t appeal it. If you win can you appeal it? Sounds like we won so why would we appeal it? A lawsuit could be filed here or somewhere else to try to win or get conflicting rulings but all that takes time.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I’m all good with that and I would have a few 30-rounders loaded by my bed as well. I just meant for carrying them around with you.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Standard cap for a PS90 is 50 rounds.
The 30s and 10s are just blocked 50s. Mine came with a 30 that I replaced the follower in to bring it back to 50.
The design of the rifle fixes the external dimensions of the mag. No shorter, no longer.
Bob
6.5 Creedmoor
And then the state says "fuck you" to the supreme court and enacts an even more restrictive law. New York has already set that precedent, several states have followed suit, and the supreme court has refused to intervene.
So I repeat myself:
livingston
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Federal Judge Blocks California ‘High-Capacity’ Magazine Ban for Second Time
U.S. District Court Judge Roger T. Benitez blocked California’s ban on ammunition magazines holding more than ten rounds on Friday.On June 29, 2017, Breitbart News reported that Benitez blocked the ban to prevent “otherwise law-abiding” citizens from being criminalized.
He noted that the ban takes away Second Amendment rights “and amounts to the government taking people’s private property without compensation.”
On Friday, Benitez issued a decision against the ban again by following the Bruen (2022) framework, which requires tradition to be on the side of the gun control in question.
KQED quoted Benitez noting, “There is no American tradition of limiting ammunition capacity.”
He noted that, historically speaking, detachable magazines “solved a problem with historic firearms: running out of ammunition and having to slowly reload a gun.”
He added, “There have been, and there will be, times where many more than 10 rounds are needed to stop attackers,” Benitez wrote. “Yet, under this statute, the State says ‘too bad.’”
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Federal Judge Blocks California 'High-Capacity' Magazine Ban for 2nd Time
U.S. District Court Judge Roger T. Benitez blocked California's ban on ammunition magazines holding more than ten rounds on Friday.
www.breitbart.com
livingston
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Folks Benitez wrote the first decision in 2017 ... The 9th circuit sent it back to him and said review your decision ... Now they must let it stand or head to SCOTUS .... One thing that was in our favor is the Bruin decision. ... More ammo to fight with.... The state I believe wanted more time to answer this ruling and were turned down. They know that the state cannot win ... The state was looking to drag this out a few more years. ... That is the SOP.... for these communists ...
livingston
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speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
Page 10, lines 11-13 provide a precedent for challenging body armor laws
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
This decision is one of the most complete beat downs against anti 2A laws I’ve ever seen.
the judge uses Californias own laws and precedent against the defendants numerous times. He sites defensive gun uses as examples, uses CA magazine disconnect law against them, says that it’s silly to consider magazines triggers and barrels as not protected seeing as they’re crucial to the operation of a firearm.
I’m only on page 20 and this ruling is the definition of what every gun owner argues for
the judge uses Californias own laws and precedent against the defendants numerous times. He sites defensive gun uses as examples, uses CA magazine disconnect law against them, says that it’s silly to consider magazines triggers and barrels as not protected seeing as they’re crucial to the operation of a firearm.
I’m only on page 20 and this ruling is the definition of what every gun owner argues for
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Wheres' the key to the backhoe honey?
Robin
Robin
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
The deeper you read the better it gets
MikeyCNY
6.5 Creedmoor
Crosspost from what I posted at Arfcom -
(after about page 20 my eyes start to glaze over)
(after about page 20 my eyes start to glaze over)
livingston
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This is why some in California call him Saint Benitez