California Proposal Would Limit When Officers Can Open Fire

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SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Several lawmakers and the family of a 22-year-old unarmed black man who was fatally shot by police proposed Tuesday that California become the first state to significantly restrict when officers can open fire.

The legislation would change the standard from using "reasonable force" to "necessary force."

That means officers would be allowed to shoot only if "there were no other reasonable alternatives to the use of deadly force" to prevent imminent serious injury or death, said Lizzie Buchen, legislative advocate for the American Civil Liberties Union, which is among the groups behind the measure.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...es-lethal-force-law-after-shootings-by-police

Determining nuances of the law when your life is on the line is going to cost officers their lives. I doubt this goes through, But the mentality is disturbing. The standard has always been reasonable to believe your life is in danger under the circumstances.

 

[Dr. Evil]

So far in about 55 years I've managed to not wind up being chased by the police. I must be lucky.

 

[Shadow2]

I find what the police find reasonable to be a ridiculously low standard that would not fly for the average citizen. Just having a gun gets you shot these days with no more then 2 seconds to react to commands. As a gun owners you should be concerned with the low standard.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I'm not saying there aren't bad cops and unfortunate accidents, but are there really enough non-criminals being shot that second guessing, restricting and otherwise impeding an officer's judgement and ability to preform effective police duties is really the answer? If we are at that point then what does that say about the extensive vetting process a cadet has to go through to become a cop? Or is this really more about allowing crime to flourish so there will always be something for politicians to "war" against and thus have a control device over the populace?

 

[Jmac00]

If i were a California cop, I'd be looking for new employment. screw that BS

 

[Runner99]

Good. Let the socialists piss off their enforcers.

 

[Deplorable Me]

California should pass a reciprocity law that restricts when criminals can open fire on the police.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

California should pass a reciprocity law that restricts when criminals can open fire on the police.

Not when they view criminals as victims.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Not when they view criminals as victims.

They view criminals as voters.

 

[Deplorable Me]

They view criminals as voters.

.......and candidates.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

They view criminals as voters.

Voters/victims...we splitting hairs here?

 

[Toecutter]

I tell you what lizzie you come and try to subdue a 250 lb scumbag who's punching you in the face with nice words and good intentions.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I tell you what lizzie you come and try to subdue a 250 lb scumbag who's punching you in the face with nice words and gender neutral pronouns.

FIFY

 

[meketrefe]

When you see a hole in your chest is time to open fire!!

 

[Shadow2]

The answer to your question is YES their is a decent amount of people getting shot by police. Internet search will pull up more then a few incidents in the last year that should piss Americans. Police being held more accountable would be a start and is not an issue with me. If not shooting unarmed people equates to allowing crime to flourish then policing is in the US truly misguided?

I'm not saying there aren't bad cops and unfortunate accidents, but are there really enough non-criminals being shot that second guessing, restricting and otherwise impeding an officer's judgement and ability to preform effective police duties is really the answer? If we are at that point then what does that say about the extensive vetting process a cadet has to go through to become a cop? Or is this really more about allowing crime to flourish so there will always be something for politicians to "war" against and thus have a control device over the populace?

 

[C3D]

These are the same ahole LEO’s that support every infringement of the 2nd Amendment that comes out of Sacramento. I find it hard to find sympathy for them on the whole.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

The answer to your question is YES their is a decent amount of people getting shot by police. Internet search will pull up more then a few incidents in the last year that should piss Americans. Police being held more accountable would be a start and is not an issue with me. If not shooting unarmed people equates to allowing crime to flourish then policing is in the US truly misguided?

Is the answer really more restrictions (rules of engagement) or simply better training/higher training standards? Which one of those two do you feel would benefit both parties the most?

 

[Greywolf224]

Just in ..... Due to California water restriction’s fire fighters must refrain from using water unless fire has reached second floor or at least two occupants have jumped out of 3rd floor windows.
Fires in single-story homes need not report any fires.

 

[Acer-m14]

Go Cali LOL ..