California's gun Laws - Their Choice

Saltwater60 · Jan 1, 2017

I think those people have mental and social problems. A friend of my sons mother literally is just afraid to pull the trigger of a gun and hear that noise. Never shot a gun. She told me it took her months to be able to use a staple gun. Mental illness is the only explanation. I was at an educational seminar with my wife and she did a presentation on how the 2A crowd adopted the dont trend on me flag. This lady was describing a short she saw put in the market place for sale and she literally cringed and shuttered. We left and we set out on a mission to find said shirt. There are people that are literally so afraid of things that it cripples thier lives and yes guns are included in that unfortunately.

VietnamEraVet · Jan 1, 2017

Fear of the unknown!

This reminds me of some things,- like the fear some people have the first time they bait a hook, or dive into a pool, or get behind a wheel and drive.

People need to get over it, and enjoy life.

togmaster · Jan 1, 2017

VietnamEraVet said:
Fear of the unknown!

This reminds me of some things,- like the fear some people have the first time they bait a hook, or dive into a pool, or get behind a wheel and drive.

People need to get over it, and enjoy life.

And it would help if we all made it a point to bring a non shooter to the range and show them what they are missing. We need to be the ambassadors of our sport.

VietnamEraVet · Jan 1, 2017

togmaster said:
And it would help if we all made it a point to bring a non shooter to the range and show them what they are missing. We need to be the ambassadors of our sport.

I've done that a number of times. Safety first, with instruction and close supervision though.

It never ceases to amaze me though, how the first time someone shoots a gun (.22lr or...), they can actually tremble with fear before they pull the trigger that first time!

spat · Jan 1, 2017

RDN said:
I was watching a Youtube video about how the people of California voted in new more restrictive gun control laws. This was done by the people and not the legislators on their own. Incredible. Cali already had some of the most restrictive gun laws. And the people wanted more. Wow

This Youtube video got me thinking about somethings.
There are people out there who have committed or tried to commit suicide. People not wanting their lives anymore. Now to me and you this is contrary to normal thinking; Because as gun owners, defense of our lives is most paramount.
I'm trying to understand these people in Cali and their way of thinking.
To them, government is the beginning and end of all things. They believe gov't should and will always provide for and protect them.
Just as some people are willing to commit suicide. There are people out there that don't want to be free. They want to be controlled and restricted. They want to be regulated. Freedom is too hard. It means taking responsibility of your lives.

If the people of CA, MA,NY, CT...ect want to abdicate their 2nd Amend. rights and freedoms so be it. Its a democracy - the people's choice. Call 911 for help - good luck

Except it's a majority trying to force their opinion on the whole body. This amounts to 10s of millions of Californians trying to impose their will on 10s of millions of other Californians by threat of violence. If everything was majority rule, there would be no need for a constitution at all, after all if 51% can do whatever they want to the other 49% that's all you need to say.

Blimey · Jan 1, 2017

High population centers of the US are distancing themselves more from the low all the time. This is why absent california trump won the popular vote by quite a lot; he also won 80% of counties. You have some incredibly dense blue areas that just don't make sense to a lot of the rest of the country.

As for fear of guns, I was going to take a co-worker to the range one day and when orlando happened he backed out--not because of the gun used, but because this same terrorist had previously used a gun range. My co-worker was afraid of somebody else at the range just deciding today is the day I'm going to start shooting people, even though that pretty much never happens. He has a higher chance of getting hit by a car on the way to wegmans.

prambo · Jan 1, 2017

The problem with Crazyfornia is that they keep exporting their screwed up politics to other states.

Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Arizona, etc.

dsdmmat · Jan 1, 2017

RDN said:
I was watching a Youtube video about how the people of California voted in new more restrictive gun control laws. This was done by the people and not the legislators on their own. Incredible. Cali already had some of the most restrictive gun laws. And the people wanted more. Wow

This Youtube video got me thinking about somethings.
There are people out there who have committed or tried to commit suicide. People not wanting their lives anymore. Now to me and you this is contrary to normal thinking; Because as gun owners, defense of our lives is most paramount.
I'm trying to understand these people in Cali and their way of thinking.
To them, government is the beginning and end of all things. They believe gov't should and will always provide for and protect them.
Just as some people are willing to commit suicide. There are people out there that don't want to be free. They want to be controlled and restricted. They want to be regulated. Freedom is too hard. It means taking responsibility of your lives.

If the people of CA, MA,NY, CT...ect want to abdicate their 2nd Amend. rights and freedoms so be it. Its a democracy - the people's choice. Call 911 for help - good luck

The USA is Not a democracy, it is a constitutional republic. The left has been really good at convincing the sheeple they live in a democracy. A democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting what is for lunch. A republic is and armed sheep contesting the vote. My rights are not up for vote, never have been, never will be.

spat · Jan 1, 2017

Blimey said:
High population centers of the US are distancing themselves more from the low all the time. This is why absent california trump won the popular vote by quite a lot; he also won 80% of counties. You have some incredibly dense blue areas that just don't make sense to a lot of the rest of the country.

As for fear of guns, I was going to take a co-worker to the range one day and when orlando happened he backed out--not because of the gun used, but because this same terrorist had previously used a gun range. My co-worker was afraid of somebody else at the range just deciding today is the day I'm going to start shooting people, even though that pretty much never happens. He has a higher chance of getting hit by a car on the way to wegmans.

LOL, trying a mass shooting *at a gun range* ?

"here's a dozen individuals all armed and prepared to fire. What's more, these are people who actually practice, not that just leave a .38 in the nightstand for the last 10 years. I wonder how many rounds I can fire before *every single person in the building* has shot me ?"

Grimscale · Jan 1, 2017

If 51% of those who vote decide to reinstate slavery, does that mean it should be done? After all, the People would have spoken and decided, right?

Right?

Leave MY Rights alone!

ProgSpear · Jan 1, 2017

Grimscale said:
If 51% of those who vote decide to reinstate slavery, does that mean it should be done? After all, the People would have spoken and decided, right?

Right?

Leave MY Rights alone!

Actually, they are voting for slavery; their own.

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