Carry while driving in westchester
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BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
"I see you changed out of your muddy boots. Couldn't take the gun off at the same time?"
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I do not think you’ll get specific people to say, “Yes. I do it everyday.” These forums are monitored. With that said, many do it everyday. Even in places that could put them in jail like schools when picking up children or in post offices. Concealed is concealed if done properly. The ones that do so properly in places like this will with no printing whatsoever either by wearing clothing conducive to their firearm size or by carrying a small firearm like a pocket pistol.
I've been pulled over by troopers both while carrying and not carrying.. I've never been asked if I was carrying
Same when I got harassed by the revenuers. They didn't ask, and I sure as fuck did not tell.
I tell them from time to time.. all depends on their attitude towards me when they initially make contact..
Oddly enough it's the ones that come in all hot and authoritative, I will kindly "interject" and let them know im carrying.. (I have a weird wiring issue with my headlights so my bulbs blow ever couple of months 6-9 months so I get stopped semi regularly) and every time that situation had happened they immediately change tune and go to friendly mode and I get a fixit ticket OR (one time missed the yellow and ran a red light right in front of a cop) a warning.
If they are super chill from the start (id say about 90% of my interactions) then I dont say shit
Not willing to chance it. I don't know them, they aren't my friend, and I'm going home to my family at night.
Xae289
.223 Rem
If I'm carrying, I don't say anything. I do, however, put my carry license at the bottom of the deck of cards I hand over. Only been pulled over twice since I started carrying. The first time, I was carrying and did hand over my license. The officer didn't even mention it, just nicely sent me on my merry way after scrolling through my paperwork. The other time was in NYC, so I wasn't carrying and didn't include my carry license among the papers. I know some people hand over their carry licenses at traffic stops regardless to establish themselves as "good guys" to the cops. I don't. If I'm carrying, I hand over my license at the bottom of the papers, and if I'm not, I don't – either way, I don't say anything and never will unless an officer ever sees my license and decides to ask me about it.
Why would you do that if you aren't trying to "establish yourself as a good guy?"
It's a bit like handing over your blockbuster card.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
With a Target, hunting, Sports person carry license in Westchester, you're absolutely allowed to carry on your person when driving and when coming from or going to whatever your permit allows you to do. It is a carry permit, and not a premise permit. With a premise permit it is my understanding you are not allowed to carry it on your person. You have to transport it in a locked box from your premise to the range.
In New York state you are not required to inform an officer if you are pulled over for a motor vehicle infraction. There isnt any reason for anyone to know that you're carrying, unless God forbid you had to use it, or you had some sort of a motor vehicle accident where you were rendered unconscious.
In the unfortunate event that either one of those things happens, you probably have bigger problems to worry about, but if you're only worried about justifying why you're carrying then just make sure you can prove it.
In New York state you are not required to inform an officer if you are pulled over for a motor vehicle infraction. There isnt any reason for anyone to know that you're carrying, unless God forbid you had to use it, or you had some sort of a motor vehicle accident where you were rendered unconscious.
In the unfortunate event that either one of those things happens, you probably have bigger problems to worry about, but if you're only worried about justifying why you're carrying then just make sure you can prove it.
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In NY if you are asked you are required to answer
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Really, wasnt aware of that. Unless there is some reason for you to exit the vehicle and you were to be searched Id say its personal preference how one chooses to answer.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
@Edwardteach72 "I tell them from time to time"- how often are you getting pulled over? Jeez.
I have horrible luck
and also great luck.. one time I was lit up, I pulled into gas station parking lot immediately, put car in pack took key out of ignition, window down... just to have the cop go from behind me to drive right up next to my car and say from out his passenger side window "hey my bad pulled over the wrong car" then speed off in the complete opposite directionBut 99% of the time its because one of my headlights is dim.. they don't completely blow out but dim and i can't figure out why (knock on wood its been about 12 months since it last happened).
And only one time (did get a ticket) cause I was turning my music on my phone in my car with an unmarked state trooper driving directly next to me on the highway..
It is a little foggy of exactly what one needs to tell the officer.
Xae289
.223 Rem
If, for any reason, it would become relevant later in the conversation, I'd rather the cop know and find out that way than to drop that tid-bit later verbally. Some cops are dicks and some are dumbass rookies with a hard-on. Either of those two demographics might not respond well to hearing "btw, officer, I'm armed" if it ever became relevant in the conversation, but would respond better to that information by seeing the carry license first. Then, on the other hand, a good cop won't need to do anything with that Blockbuster card.Why would you do that if you aren't trying to "establish yourself as a good guy?"
It's a bit like handing over your blockbuster card.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
is it not there job to prove it ?? ( self incrimination )
You could just as easily and more likely get a "only cops should have guns" type that could take that action as a threat to their authority.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
As a "professional driver" of certain vehicles, I would get stopped sometimes twice a month or more. But I knew the routine. License, registration, insurance, med card, certificate of registration for hazmat, and shipping papers. With my personal documents, I would include my pistol permit if I was carrying. There are times you are asked to exit the vehicle for one reason or another. I always figured I would let them know ahead of time rather than risk any surprises. They've always thanked me.
The only two times I have been asked more about a pistol was once while hunting, ENCON asked to see my permit and then verified the serial number. The second time was when a Trooper was taking it for safe keeping when I was going in an ambulance to the hospital.
If it comes up in conversation just reach for your wallet real fast and say take that...
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
What I mean is if they find out and report it to your licensing officer then that person (judge) can revoke your permit if they feel you were carrying outside your restrictions. So, be prepared to prove it to that person so you dont lose your property/permit.
spat
.950 JDJ
The penalty for getting caught with a gun you are not supposed to have can be very severe.
However, it's nothing compared to getting caught *without* a gun if you need one.
You will have to weigh your odds and risks personally.
Just bear in mind that you doing nothing wrong doesn't preclude you getting searched.
However, it's nothing compared to getting caught *without* a gun if you need one.
You will have to weigh your odds and risks personally.
Just bear in mind that you doing nothing wrong doesn't preclude you getting searched.
Now we have people of which we have no idea whatsoever of their firearms experience handling your loaded firearms!?
Now we have people of which we have no idea whatsoever of their firearms experience handling your loaded firearms!?
Yea I 100% would have told that officer that the gun is much safer for everyone where it currently is in my holster
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
Now we have people of which we have no idea whatsoever of their firearms experience handling your loaded firearms!?
The ENCON officer approached my brother and I as we were leaving the woods to check our hunting licenses. Since I was open carrying my pistol, he asked if I had a permit. Showed him my permit. He wanted to verify the serial number. He had me unholster it and I opened the cylinder so he could see the number.
The Trooper secured my pistol as I was on the stretcher. He cleared it at the edge of the property away from us. I told him my permit was in my wallet which was in the center console of my truck. Because NYS law, I couldn't just let anyone take it, even though they had a permit. The ambulance wasn't going to transport until it was secured. I wasn't in much of a position at the time to argue.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I find that annoying. He didnt need to have you go through that. Sounds like a guy who enjoys his "authority".
Now we are drawing guns with trigger happy cops around?
See point above. Don't ask, don't tell.
There is no "verifying" anything. Do you have reason to believe ve the firearm is not mine? No? Then fuck right off.
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Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
you should have said , you can take possession of it once you follow the law and add it to your permit officer .. just to see look you get ... LOL