Thinking of a scenario where you get pulled over and they ask if you are carrying. Assuming its county or state troopers which I understand run your tags and know if you are a permit holder. Then you could be in a sticky situation.
Same when I got harassed by the revenuers. They didn't ask, and I sure as fuck did not tell.I've been pulled over by troopers both while carrying and not carrying.. I've never been asked if I was carrying
Same when I got harassed by the revenuers. They didn't ask, and I sure as fuck did not tell.
Not willing to chance it. I don't know them, they aren't my friend, and I'm going home to my family at night.I tell them from time to time.. all depends on their attitude towards me when they initially make contact..
Oddly enough it's the ones that come in all hot and authoritative, I will kindly "interject" and let them know im carrying.. (I have a weird wiring issue with my headlights so my bulbs blow ever couple of months 6-9 months so I get stopped semi regularly) and every time that situation had happened they immediately change tune and go to friendly mode and I get a fixit ticket OR (one time missed the yellow and ran a red light right in front of a cop) a warning.
If they are super chill from the start (id say about 90% of my interactions) then I dont say shit
Why would you do that if you aren't trying to "establish yourself as a good guy?"If I'm carrying, I don't say anything. I do, however, put my carry license at the bottom of the deck of cards I hand over. Only been pulled over twice since I started carrying. The first time, I was carrying and did hand over my license. The officer didn't even mention it, just nicely sent me on my merry way after scrolling through my paperwork. The other time was in NYC, so I wasn't carrying and didn't include my carry license among the papers. I know some people hand over their carry licenses at traffic stops regardless to establish themselves as "good guys" to the cops. I don't. If I'm carrying, I hand over my license at the bottom of the papers, and if I'm not, I don't – either way, I don't say anything and never will unless an officer ever sees my license and decides to ask me about it.
With a Target, hunting, Sports person carry license in Westchester, you're absolutely allowed to carry on your person when driving and when coming from or going to whatever your permit allows you to do. It is a carry permit, and not a premise permit. With a premise permit it is my understanding you are not allowed to carry it on your person. You have to transport it in a locked box from your premise to the range.
In New York state you are not required to inform an officer if you are pulled over for a motor vehicle infraction. There isnt any reason for anyone to know that you're carrying, unless God forbid you had to use it, or you had some sort of a motor vehicle accident where you were rendered unconscious.
In the unfortunate event that either one of those things happens, you probably got bigger problems to worry about, but if you're only worried about justifying why you're carrying then just make sure you can prove it.
Really, wasnt aware of that. Unless there is some reason for you to exit the vehicle and you were to be searched Id say its personal preference how one chooses to answer.In NY if you are asked you are required to answer
@Edwardteach72 "I tell them from time to time"- how often are you getting pulled over? Jeez.
Really, wasnt aware of that. Unless there is some reason for you to exit the vehicle and you were to be searched Id say its personal preference how one chooses to answer.
If, for any reason, it would become relevant later in the conversation, I'd rather the cop know and find out that way than to drop that tid-bit later verbally. Some cops are dicks and some are dumbass rookies with a hard-on. Either of those two demographics might not respond well to hearing "btw, officer, I'm armed" if it ever became relevant in the conversation, but would respond better to that information by seeing the carry license first. Then, on the other hand, a good cop won't need to do anything with that Blockbuster card.Why would you do that if you aren't trying to "establish yourself as a good guy?"
It's a bit like handing over your blockbuster card.
but if you're only worried about justifying why you're carrying then just make sure you can prove it.
You could just as easily and more likely get a "only cops should have guns" type that could take that action as a threat to their authority.If, for any reason, it would become relevant later in the conversation, I'd rather the cop know and find out that way than to drop that tid-bit later verbally. Some cops are dicks and some are dumbass rookies with a hard-on. Either of those two demographics might not respond well to hearing "btw, officer, I'm armed" if it ever became relevant in the conversation, but would respond better to that information by seeing the carry license first. Then, on the other hand, a good cop won't need to do anything with that Blockbuster card.
As a "professional driver" of certain vehicles, I would get stopped sometimes twice a month or more. But I knew the routine. License, registration, insurance, med card, certificate of registration for hazmat, and shipping papers. With my personal documents, I would include my pistol permit if I was carrying. There are times you are asked to exit the vehicle for one reason or another. I always figured I would let them know ahead of time rather than risk any surprises. They've always thanked me.@Edwardteach72 "I tell them from time to time"- how often are you getting pulled over? Jeez.
If, for any reason, it would become relevant later in the conversation, I'd rather the cop know and find out that way than to drop that tid-bit later verbally. Some cops are dicks and some are dumbass rookies with a hard-on. Either of those two demographics might not respond well to hearing "btw, officer, I'm armed" if it ever became relevant in the conversation, but would respond better to that information by seeing the carry license first. Then, on the other hand, a good cop won't need to do anything with that Blockbuster card.
What I mean is if they find out and report it to your licensing officer then that person (judge) can revoke your permit if they feel you were carrying outside your restrictions. So, be prepared to prove it to that person so you dont lose your property/permit.is it not there job to prove it ?? ( self incrimination )
Now we have people of which we have no idea whatsoever of their firearms experience handling your loaded firearms!?As a "professional driver" of certain vehicles, I would get stopped sometimes twice a month or more. But I knew the routine. License, registration, insurance, med card, certificate of registration for hazmat, and shipping papers. With my personal documents, I would include my pistol permit if I was carrying. There are times you are asked to exit the vehicle for one reason or another. I always figured I would let them know ahead of time rather than risk any surprises. They've always thanked me.
The only two times I have been asked more about a pistol was once while hunting, ENCON asked to see my permit and then verified the serial number. The second time was when a Trooper was taking it for safe keeping when I was going in an ambulance to the hospital.
Now we have people of which we have no idea whatsoever of their firearms experience handling your loaded firearms!?
Now we have people of which we have no idea whatsoever of their firearms experience handling your loaded firearms!?
Yea I 100% would have told that officer that the gun is much safer for everyone where it currently is in my holster
I find that annoying. He didnt need to have you go through that. Sounds like a guy who enjoys his "authority".Showed him my permit. He wanted to verify the serial number. He had me unholster it and I opened the cylinder so he could see the number.
Now we are drawing guns with trigger happy cops around?I find that annoying. He didnt need to have you go through that. Sounds like a guy who enjoys his "authority".
The ENCON officer approached my brother and I as we were leaving the woods to check our hunting licenses. Since I was open carrying my pistol, he asked if I had a permit. Showed him my permit. He wanted to verify the serial number. He had me unholster it and I opened the cylinder so he could see the number.
The Trooper secured my pistol as I was on the stretcher. He cleared it at the edge of the property away from us. I told him my permit was in my wallet which was in the center console of my truck. Because NYS law, I couldn't just let anyone take it, even though they had a permit. The ambulance wasn't going to transport until it was secured. I wasn't in much of a position at the time to argue.