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holdover said:
After jumping from roof He full out sprints , Not to mention If he hit the ground with the rifle in his pants He most likely would have torn his pants wide open, and possibly dislocate his shoulder from the stock hitting him in the armpit, The FBI also said the video of him limping was prior to the shooting
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Read my post again. I addressed what you brought up. Adrenaline dump is a power boost. Deer have run a hundred yards shot through the heart and even with a completely blown out shoulder. Running like a miss. Pay attention the the "...180 degrees from the camera angle and his right leg absorbs all the impact of the fall." and download the video and look. His left leg is straight out at about 45 degree angle. Yes there is video of him walking oddly before the shooting and the changing of his clothing. The video I am referring to is his escape to his car and through the area where is dumped the rifle which its obvious to me, was meant to be found with the messaging broadcasted. :beer:
 
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Speed vs stealth.

The sneakiest way up may not be the fastest way down.

He could take all the time he wanted to get up there without being seen. But once that shot went off he was on a very short clock to get away.

And an area that is obscured when everyone is 200 yards away listening to Charlie might suddenly be full of people when the whole crowd starts suddenly evacuating.

No good having 10 people whip out their phones while you're climbing down from a roof trying to get away after this.
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That was a 15 foot drop. Most people would not attempt that. This Democrat didn't scope that out before hand?
 
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Victor Davis Hanson delivers a sobering reflection on the assassination of Charlie Kirk — a man he calls irreplaceable. Hanson remembers Kirk not just as a conservative activist, but as a fearless communicator, organizer, and cultural force who gave young Americans permission to embrace family, faith, and tradition in an age that ridiculed all three.
Hanson’s warning is blunt: America is lowering the bar of civilization. And without voices like Charlie’s, who dared to speak plainly about fertility, family, and faith, the cultural void will only deepen.
 
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DoOver said:
That was a 15 foot drop. Most people would not attempt that. This Democrat didn't scope that out before hand?
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Maybe, maybe not.

Maybe he'd done it before and knew he could manage it.

But that doesn't change the fact that he probably tossed the rifle down and didn't try to climb down with it. So not seeing it in his hands there doesn't mean much.
 
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Bigfoot said:
Shell casings are evidence. I've seen mob documentaries where it's explained that's why revolvers were often used by hitmen.
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given that they said the shell casing was still in the chamber and the other shells had engraving on them would indicate all were removed as evidence, and a source of finger prints....makes sense not to leave evidence behind.
 
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given that they said the shell casing was still in the chamber and the other shells had engraving on them would indicate all were removed as evidence, and a source of finger prints....makes sense not to leave evidence behind.
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Why bother leaving messages on them?
 
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this asshole sure is getting a lot of attention from the news .. next they will be putting out

articles for his new partner and the wedding date ..

They are sure making him popular to his base ..

See a few in the news that got fired over their flapping lips by there employers ..

Even Microsoft canned a guy .. LOL ..

Got a School Teacher in Naples bragging he has tenure who flapped his lips ..

Well he is on suspension till the lawers figure out how to fire him ..

the good people are pissed and not backing down .. fire them or get boycotted ..

I just love the box the Rifle is in , just happened to carry a rifle box in the squad car ..

HAY .... LT. CHARLIE GRAB THE REMINGTON RIFLE BOX ...
 
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RedBreast21 said:
I've watched the grainy CCTV video and even went to a friends who upsampled the video to 4k and the kid clearly is wearing wide legged baggy pants. As he climbs over the edge of the roof, his left leg is un-naturally straight and remains straight as he hangs and lets go. On impact from the fall, his left leg is extended outward almost 180 degrees from the camera angle, partially hiding the left leg and his right leg absorbs all the impact of the fall. Adrenaline has kicked in and so no pain and he jogs/walks away almost at a normal stride. Later he is on a security camera from someones home clearly limping and favoring the leg that took the severe impact and that shoe print the FBI is talking about. All him. Not some magic sniper shot from maybe 140 yards. Runs home to his father and confesses all. His entire family conservative. Its not a sexy story. Now if he mysterious was found shot or dies in the coming days, only then will I allow my mind to wander into uncharted territory. Just following the facts as I have researched them. :beer: :salute:
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watch the video again, the shooter is sprinting across the roof starting at the top left side, comes around the cornor, and sprints to the edge He bends both knees several time climbing down . the point is, you cant sprint with a rifle in your pants , You cant bend your knees when climbing off the roof with a rifle in your pants . the video clearly shows him bending his knees the rifle was not in his pants
 
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spat said:
But that doesn't change the fact that he probably tossed the rifle down and didn't try to climb down with it. So not seeing it in his hands there doesn't mean much.
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"" probably tossed the rifle down"" ????

Legitimate possibility , the problem is how did it get to the woods. If you watch the video , He sprinted from the shooting position to rear edge where he jumped . He did not have rifle in hands when sprinting , so he would have had to drop it somewhere near the firing position , On the side of the building where the shot came from since we cant see him throw anything when he comes back into view . How in the world could he or anybody else pick up that rifle , towels or not and not be seen ?
 
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holdover said:
"" probably tossed the rifle down"" ????

Legitimate possibility , the problem is how did it get to the woods. If you watch the video , He sprinted from the shooting position to rear edge where he jumped . He did not have rifle in hands when sprinting , so he would have had to drop it somewhere near the firing position , On the side of the building where the shot came from since we cant see him throw anything when he comes back into view . How in the world could he or anybody else pick up that rifle , towels or not and not be seen ?
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It doesn't even make sense to bring the rifle. Why go to the hassle of bringing it on the evacuation just to dump it in the woods right by where the crime was done? Like they're not going to find a rifle that's 500 yards away when they're going to search with an army of people? Might have well just left it there if it's going to be found anyways.

Fucking dumb, then again, so is shooting someone because you disagree with them.
 
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