Corruption in NYPD Pistol Office

[Gonzobird]

Who would have figured all you had to do to get a permit in the city was to bribe people...
Go figure it is NY

https://nypost.com/2018/04/17/ex-cop-nypd-gun-license-division-was-a-bribery-machine/

 

[Karpteach]

This is old news. People are now going on trial.

 

[Kwalsh]

"NY is open for business"

as long as you can afford it

 

[GOPerfect]

I really hope that not one person is shocked by this.

Bribes occur in ALL professions. All of them. Parents and students will sleep with their teaches to get better grades.

Bankers receive brides all of the time. Housing inspectors are on the take. Politicians, oh yeah!

Police, jail guards, security officers and Doctors. All of them are open for Bribes.

 

[Gonzobird]

Live in Central America for a few years. If you don't bribe someone you don't get by.

I am not surprised by this or bribery. In some cases I actually think it helps and can be a good thing. I think there is a line that shouldn't be crossed though.

I have no issues with the example of the old school neighborhood cop that kept his streets clean or at least kept the crime to the criminals. Most shop owners would give the guy meat or produce or extra money to provide for his kids. Those days are long gone though.

I saw this first hand in Belize at many of the small villages i dealt with. One "constable" as he called himself had a badge supplied for him by the government. That was it. The rest of his stuff, his pistol, his 4-wheeler and his uni from he had to supply. He got paid $30 a week as well. He was a good guy took his job seriously and protected his people. He took bribes but they went to his family and it was food and clothes and such.

This kind of stuff in the artical and high level political bribes i think are disgusting.

 

[Airborneguy]

I'm glad these people were routed and are now facing charges. One of those peripherally involved was a former commander of mine. Great guy actually, great boss, but he let money go to his head. That said, the response was to find the most anti-2nd Amendment captain possible and put him in charge. The place went from being corrupt to being even worse Constitutionally than it was previously.

 

[libertysnake]

I'm glad these people were routed and are now facing charges. One of those peripherally involved was a former commander of mine. Great guy actually, great boss, but he let money go to his head. That said, the response was to find the most anti-2nd Amendment captain possible and put him in charge. The place went from being corrupt to being even worse Constitutionally than it was previously.

Is there anything organized, within LEO, to fight back against commanders that want to hold up unconstitutional policies though?

I’m not saying the matter isn’t complex, and that speaking up wouldn’t put people on the line, but the double standard on this stuff sometimes confuses me. I’d fully support LEO who came out against such policies. Do people within LEO think they wouldn’t have the backing of a significant number of citizens on these issues, if they chose to object?

I really have no insight from the non-LEO side into if there may be pro-2A LEO organizations.

 

[Airborneguy]

People speak up all the time, I am right now.

As with any other matter, one has to be an aggrieved party to bring something to the courts. I couldn't initiate a suit to clean up the licensing division as I've suffered no loss due to their practices.

 

[Shadow2]

Where these carry permits?

 

[Darth]

I really hope that not one person is shocked by this.

Bribes occur in ALL professions. All of them. Parents and students will sleep with their teaches to get better grades.

Bankers receive brides all of the time. Housing inspectors are on the take. Politicians, oh yeah!

Police, jail guards, security officers and Doctors. All of them are open for Bribes.

And how many of them can legally arrest you for not having paid the bribe and carrying anyway?

Oh yeah...

 

[GOPerfect]

And how many of them can legally arrest you for not having paid the bribe and carrying anyway?

Oh yeah...

Another meaningless statement.

 

[Darth]

Another meaningless statement.

In the vein of "but all jobs have bad apples!" :'(

 

[WhyLeftiesGlorifyNY]

 

[WhyLeftiesGlorifyNY]

Yes!

Where these carry permits?

 

[Robin]

Why, I'm shocked!
Robin

 

[SomeSoldier]

 

[Jmac00]

my only connection with this issue is with building inspectors. I seriously doubt there is a more corrupt, power-hungry group anywhere. Im sure there is, but I never come across those people

If they don't like something, whether it's done by code or not, you're going to pay to get them to pass it. On top of that, there is virtually no way to get one fired or removed from their position unless they piss off someone on a town board.

The problem starts with the building code itself, which states *AND/OR THE AUTHORITY HAVING JURISDICTION* Translation, the authority can do anything they want

 

[GOPerfect]

my only connection with this issue is with building inspectors. I seriously doubt there is a more corrupt, power-hungry group anywhere. Im sure there is, but I never come across those people

If they don't like something, whether it's done by code or not, you're going to pay to get them to pass it. On top of that, there is virtually no way to get one fired or removed from their position unless they piss off someone on a town board.

The problem starts with the building code itself, which states *AND/OR THE AUTHORITY HAVING JURISDICTION* Translation, the authority can do anything they want

But according to Darth, that is okay because they cannot arrest you.

 

[Jmac00]

But according to Darth, that is okay because they cannot arrest you.

swell, some of the inspectors are just shit stupid. I had one guy demand I pressure test a gas line at 45 psi for 24 hours (while it was 15°F out) the next day it was 5° so naturally the pressure dropped a couple pounds, he was convinced there was a leak, stupid fuck, it took me 45 minutes to explain Boyles law to him.

the normal pressure test is 5psi for 20 minutes (residential gas pressure)

 

[Robin]

May he get boils.
Robin

 

[GOPerfect]

swell, some of the inspectors are just shit stupid. I had one guy demand I pressure test a gas line at 45 psi for 24 hours (while it was 15°F out) the next day it was 5° so naturally the pressure dropped a couple pounds, he was convinced there was a leak, stupid fuck, it took me 45 minutes to explain Boyles law to him.

the normal pressure test is 5psi for 20 minutes (residential gas pressure)

At my former job, I used to listen to horror stories like yours all the time. Those people are brutal!