Cuomo directs CUNY and SUNY to keep using race as factor in college admissions

[Madmallard]

Gov. Cuomo on Thursday issued a directive to the state and city university systems that they continue to use race as a factor in their admission policies in order to better ensure diversity.

Cuomo directs CUNY and SUNY to keep using race as factor in college admissions - NY Daily News

 

[Grimscale]

He noted that 76% of CUNY’s student body are minorities while the figure is nearly 45% for SUNY.

Sounds to me like the CUNY system is overly represented with minority races. What happens to all of the Caucasians who apply? Not really sounding fair and inclusive of all, now is it?
And SUNY is already almost half minority.

 

[Defilade]

Let's use race as a factor with the Governor of NY. Resign!

 

[tlj000]

As I suspected, my daughter was discriminated against in her college applications

 

[MadScientist]

When you say you are going to use race as a factor, you are being racist by definition. Even when you think you aren’t being racist, by propping up one group based on their skin color you are harming another.
Cuomo doesn’t seem like the brightest bulb. By supporting the previous guidelines he is hurting Asian Americans in particular, who were disproportionately hurt by the college administration process. So much for helping minorities.

 

[Dr. Evil]

As I suspected, my daughter was discriminated against in her college applications

I believe my son was too. 6th in his class and wait listed at Binghamton. We were basically told there has to be a certain amount of different students. Oh well. Things happen for a reason although I would have preferred a 2.5 hour drive to see him instead of a 4.5 hour drive. Mind you he got into non SUNY schools more accomplished and tougher than Binghamton lol. Oh yeah, FUAC. Can that prick be sued by the Feds?

 

[GTN]

I have never understood why they even have those little boxes to check off if you’re white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc.
If you want to make it fair and non-racist get rid of those and you get in based on your merits

 

[Dr. Evil]

“In New York State, we must not let the federal government’s reprehensible action deter us in our work to integrate our classrooms,” the two said.

And there you have it. How about this? If you earn something you get it. Don't like your results? Try harder and work out of your situation. Instead, everyone gets a freaking participation trophy.

 

[96coal449]

FUAC as usual ..... and the universities, and not least, the public education system.

 

[Blimey]

I have never understood why they even have those little boxes to check off if you’re white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc.
If you want to make it fair and non-racist get rid of those and you get in based on your merits

They don't want to make it non-fair.

I haven't checked stats lately but I'm pretty damn sure that way less than 76% of this state is minority, so if 76% of CUNY students are indeed from minorities, that system appears to have abandoned anything resembling meritocracy based admissions.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

When you say you are going to use race as a factor, you are being racist by definition. Even when you think you aren’t being racist, by propping up one group based on their skin color you are harming another.
Cuomo doesn’t seem like the brightest bulb. By supporting the previous guidelines he is hurting Asian Americans in particular, who were disproportionately hurt by the college administration process. So much for helping minorities.

So let me understand. It's against the law to consider race when hiring but a requirement for admission to a university?

 

[Deplorable Me]

My son is aggressively searching for a job out of NY, I told him I will drive the moving truck.

 

[MadScientist]

So let me understand. It's against the law to consider race when hiring but a requirement for admission to a university?

If I am not mistaken but isn’t that only half true? Wasn’t there a huge issue recently with google internal documents leaking which showed they were discriminating based on race and gender during their hiring process?

Idk about this crap anymore. Can say from personal experience, as a part of my job as a mad scientist I need to write grants to the NIH for funding. The National Institutes of Health has diversity grants and the like to help promote career transition for “underserved” peoples. Basically if you are anything other than a white guy you can apply, maybe Asian as well.
Kinda racist but this is how our govt functions. Forget about scientific merit, strong scientific premise, ect. We need more black women scientists for some reason because diversity. What they don’t tell you is women are overwhelmingly the majority of New degree earners. White people are a minority in science as well. Not to hijack the thread but I work for SUNY so it’s relevant

 

[Mosinitis]

Another bullshit thread by NY GOP backstabbers. BTW, I am a graduate of CUNY. The make up of the student body reflects the make up of the general population of NYC. It's the easiest college to get into no matter what your race.
Why do anything for gun owners at the legislative level when you can make a pathetic attempt to garner support through race baiting.
Typical do-nothing Conservative playbook. All talk and the only action is backstabbing.

 

[Mosinitis]

This is how they are walking back the SAFE act. By serenading us with inane, race baiting BS.

 

[Celt]

I always detested affirmative action programs. To prop up one race at the expense of another is racist. And to automatically disqualify an applicant based on color in spite of them meeting the academic requirements is insane.

It's pretty simple to look up demographics of a state or the entire nation to find out the population by race. If a certain race is under-represented in college it seems to me as if those people simply just don't want to attend. And to deny other people the ability to attend because one group is theoretically under-represented is just bizarre. And when I say under-represented I'm referring to total demographics.

 

[Mosinitis]

MLK Jr. birthday is an affirmative action holiday. Who pushed it through? Ronald Reagan. Both political parties are tumbling over each other to kiss Africa-American rear ends.

 

[oc shooter]

no easy answer but if I were a minority and I needed affirmative action to get into school for anything other than money I would be ashamed of myself and my race

 

[Mosinitis]

I have never understood why they even have those little boxes to check off if you’re white, black, Hispanic, Asian, etc.
If you want to make it fair and non-racist get rid of those and you get in based on your merits

There is nothing that stops you from checking off any box you desire. They can't do anything about that. I have a friend who did this and suggested that I do the same if applying for a government job.

 

[ProgSpear]

I have taken to writing the word "human" in on these questions.

 

[Celt]

With the new DNA testing that is available, a surprising number of people would find themselves with some ancestral DNA coming from Africa or native American Indians. Many Southern Europeans would be surprised to find out that they would have DNA that originated from Africa within the past few thousand years.
It would be great if everybody that had one billionth of a DNA strand from one of those places actually started filling out applications that way to throw a monkey wrench in their system.

 

[swilliams]

Sounds to me like the CUNY system is overly represented with minority races. What happens to all of the Caucasians who apply? Not really sounding fair and inclusive of all, now is it?
And SUNY is already almost half minority.

I'm about to say what is probably the most "racist" thing to ever come out of my mouth (or fingers). The Caucasians with half a brain don't apply because the minorities have dragged the curriculum so far down that the CUNY schools suck, with maybe the exception of the engineering/science program at City College. Some of the liberal arts classes I had to take had only one or two white kids in the entire class. The worst part of it was that the "students" majoring in education were among the dumbest people I've ever come across.

 

[E the massive]

BOCES is free.