Database or rough number of issued hangun permits in NYS, by county?

[JackNeat]

I am trying to find out how many permit holders reside in Rockland County so I can approach a candidate with this stat and grill him on where he stands with the CCIA. This morning I sent in an email to the county clerk to see if that is a number they can help me with but maybe someone on here already knows of a database available? The info must be out there somewhere but a quick search using google didn't return much. Everything seems to default to info on NYC.

 

[nortatoga]

I would file a Foil request and have an official document.

 

[Saltwater60]

I’ve tried searching for the entire state previously and there is nothing. Anyway with the new NYSP recertification they have to have it somewhere, good luck getting it prior to Election Day.

 

[cedmer]

I have NO exact data for Rockland but other sources estimates that >>

there about 194K permit holder issued per usconcealedcarry.com for the state of NY, just 1% of the state population...

CBSnews reported about 19.9% NY gun ownership

 

[kev74]

As stated above, I would send in a foil request. The number you get will likely be higher due to them not tracking deaths or people who move from the area very closely.

You might also try giving them a phone call. They might just tell you the number.

 

[Beerman]

There will be one more in Warren County soon. I submitted mine in March, and got an email last week that it’s sitting on the judge’s desk awaiting his blessing. I was told when I submitted that there were nearly 9000 issued, living license holders in Warren County, with a total population of 65000, roughly 14%.

 

[nortatoga]

I have NO exact data for Rockland but other sources estimates that >>

there about 194K permit holder issued per usconcealedcarry.com for the state of NY, just 1% of the state population...

CBSnews reported about 19.9% NY gun ownership

This # 194K is way low, My County Saratoga is around 40K..

 

[Saltwater60]

As stated above, I would send in a foil request. The number you get will likely be higher due to them not tracking deaths or people who move from the area very closely.

You might also try giving them a phone call. They might just tell you the number.

They do track this now. That’s part of the point of recertifying your permit.

 

[Saltwater60]

I have NO exact data for Rockland but other sources estimates that >>

there about 194K permit holder issued per usconcealedcarry.com for the state of NY, just 1% of the state population...

CBSnews reported about 19.9% NY gun ownership

This number is so under represented it’s not even funny. Think about it if some random person called you and said do you own guns what would you say? My response would be no and hang up.

 

[Jchrisls]

194k is very low. Consider the following;

1)The data above could only be derived from pistol permit holders as prior to Sept. 1, no permit was required to purchase a long gun, therefore no reliability data could be derived.
2) there are over 60 counties in NYS. @ 194k gun owners, that would average only a little over 3200 gun owners per county, which considering areas like Erie, Monroe and Albany populations ( excluding NYC and its boroughs) it works be exceedingly rare to encounter another gun owner.
3) I would think ( unverified) that significant hunting permits are issued annually, and comparison the entire population on ny that just %1 of new Yorkers hunt seems extremely low.
4) Based on a quick Google search, there are just under 3900 FFLS in NYS. That number would be significantly lower if there was only 194k gun owners in NYS.

 

[Jchrisls]

I have NO exact data for Rockland but other sources estimates that >>

there about 194K permit holder issued per usconcealedcarry.com for the state of NY, just 1% of the state population...

CBSnews reported about 19.9% NY gun ownership

CBS seems much more plausible.

 

[Saltwater60]

194k is very low. Consider the following;

1)The data above could only be derived from pistol permit holders as prior to Sept. 1, no permit was required to purchase a long gun, therefore no reliability data could be derived.
2) there are over 60 counties in NYS. @ 194k gun owners, that would average only a little over 3200 gun owners per county, which considering areas like Erie, Monroe and Albany populations ( excluding NYC and its boroughs) it works be exceedingly rare to encounter another gun owner.
3) I would think ( unverified) that significant hunting permits are issued annually, and comparison the entire population on ny that just %1 of new Yorkers hunt seems extremely low.
4) Based on a quick Google search, there are just under 3900 FFLS in NYS. That number would be significantly lower if there was only 194k gun owners in NYS.

I agree. It’s amazing how many gun owners I know in Erie county. Also I recently read an article where niagara county just had something like 6,000 application in an attempt to beat the CCIA. That number is from memory so I could be wrong, but I took the pistol permit class that is required for Erie and Niagara counties three times and the class was full each time I took it. Also the county pistol permit office is always busy.

 

[Acer-m14]

remember this .. call the journal news and ask them how they got the info ...

The Journal News’s Gun Permit Map

The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012 in Newtown, Connecticut left over twenty people dead, the majority of them young children. The nation responded with shock, anger, and a renewed controversial

www.gislounge.com

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I thought I read an article in the buffalo news one time that they thought something like 10% of Erie county adult males had their pistol license.

That number stuck with me. No idea as to their methodology or if it was accurate

 

[JackNeat]

I saw that estimate of 194k and immediately thought that is no where near what it actually is. If they had access to actual data that might have been the number of UNRESTRICTED permits.

the map posted above doesn’t mention it but in 2013 the number published by the paper for the number of permits was just shy of 17,000. Fast forward to the turmoil in 2020-21 and it would not surprise me if that number was closer to 20-22k by now.

I have to call the clerk to find out how long I have to wait for the judge to kindly update my permit with a newly acquired pistol so I will ask them if they have that information available for permit holders. NYSP might also be an option and I know two higher up NYSP that might be able to help me with that.

 

[minderasr]

I find it sad that the numbers are so low.

 

[Steal2B]

I’ve tried searching for the entire state previously and there is nothing. Anyway with the new NYSP recertification they have to have it somewhere, good luck getting it prior to Election Day.

I'd venture a NYSP figure would be low.

Although we got snail mail form letters a couple years ago reminding us that our recertification was due sometime in the calender year, I'm not sure they have all info.

When some old permit holders overheard discussions of recertification they thought we were bullshitting and said their file was still just on paper in the sheriff's office. I would not be suprised since they've had all their handguns since before some on this thread were born.

 

[Zerex]

Here Is a List of All the Assholes Handsome Law-Abiding Citizens Who Own Guns Some People in New York City

Last month, the Journal News sparked a firestorm of protest when it published a mappable database of every licensed gun owner in Westchester and Rockland counties, north of New York City. The paper obtained the data—which New York state law explicitly and unambiguously demands be made...

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Oneida County had 300,000 listed permits before the first recert.
Over 50,000 certified today AND ARE NOW FULL CARRY, FEELING DANGEROUS, most of the time.

State wants to know the status of the other 250,00 who did not recert, and GET THE FUCKING GUNS.
I know older people who never recertified who still have the guns and have no idea or the laws. They can carry full time now too.


250,000 home visits and one or two full time employees in the offices. One or two a week should get it done by 2105.

43,000 EBRs in the state, owned by 23,000 AW permit holders...........ten of the EBR's are mine.................ho hum.

Has the horse left the barn in NYS?

Yep!!