That's all I need to know to make my opinion.
DC Appeals reverses Mag Ban...
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That's all I need to know to make my opinion.
The shooter who removed his mag lock, is precisely why the mag lock without an more permanent epoxy aid, is not going to keep you "SAFE" from LE.
Be SAFE not sorry.
The people who did not register, many did sell their guns out of state for a pittance, installed mag locks, spurs grip, etc etc, or still hide them.
No good in an home invasion as shooting a bad guy gets you a win, but possession of an AW gets you a felony.
I know that I had to register, as I basically helped the guy write it, unknowingly.
Many gun owners in NYS do not own AW's anymore, due to boating accidents on Lake Ontario.
fuck it..........
Be SAFE not sorry.
The people who did not register, many did sell their guns out of state for a pittance, installed mag locks, spurs grip, etc etc, or still hide them.
No good in an home invasion as shooting a bad guy gets you a win, but possession of an AW gets you a felony.
I know that I had to register, as I basically helped the guy write it, unknowingly.
Many gun owners in NYS do not own AW's anymore, due to boating accidents on Lake Ontario.
fuck it..........
No, the SAFE ACT is working. Antifreeze said so.
I'm very disturbed someone on a gun forum publicly is promoting the safe act. That's boss level insanity.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The law doesnt say permanent, and there is virtually no method that cant be undone for someone willing to break the law. The law does not make anyone safer except criminals. All it does is erode our rights even more than they already have. You keep equating people who want to preserve our rights to sovereign citizens but that is a false association. Even the founder knew there are limits to maintaining free society, thats why they made the BOR, with the intent to limit the govt ability to stifle the citizenry.
I do.
Every time I hear the phrase "The Constitution is not a suicide pact" I know that person is 100% NOT pro 2A. That person is also very likely not pro- any of the other enumerated Rights.
Singing the songs of the oppressors, having the gall to say "all you gotta do is obey"... that's not someone who is pro-2A. That's Soros-level shit right there.
"The store shooter removed his fixed magazine.........................that's why you need to make it more permanent". Tells me a person believes that my Rights are dependent on what a "bad guy" does, and not my own attempts to remain a law-abiding citizen.
And then making statements suggesting that that person was high enough in any food chain to have assisted in writing draconian, oppressive, anti-Rights laws? The level of self-aggrandizement is getting ridiculous.
So my words are "liar", "boot licker", and "tyrant wanna-be".
Anyone who publicly announces that they approve and accepts to have their rights and freedoms stomped on because of the behavior of others( SAFE Act)………..on a gun forum, has questionable judgement to me and should not be able to possess a firearm.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
Removing the mag lock did not cause him to intentionally point his weapon at random shoppers in a grocery store. Having standard capacity mags did not make his ammo more lethal than 10 round mags. Mental illness, an inept upbringing, pure evil, inbreeding and extremely low intelligence caused that. But sure, blame the
It’s the same kind of brain malfunction that allows Z to stare the farmer right in the eye when the farmer catches Z making sweet love to his favorite milk cow, and, holding the farmer’s horrified gaze, Z finishes before looking away. Like a boss! That’s commitment, and it takes a certain type of dedication.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The government seeks to disarm its citizens before the government does things for which they should be shot by their citizens.
You would not ever be able to present such an low life idiotic argument to any Court room judge............it is like saying you have no jurisdiction over me, Judge, or the cops..............that makes you "make up my own laws", natural laws sovereign type--- but you are a likely keyboard commando sovereign, and do not actually violate the SAFE ACT knowingly.
No FFL helps you do that either.
www.atf.gov
ATF arrests about 25,00 sovereign types a year, and prosecutes and jails 5,000 or so, of those, non plea bargain arrestees.
The NYSP arrest at leasat 100++ a year for SAFE ACT violations, and many other gun crimes. You read it here on those traffic stops and DV home searches.
Bitch bith bitch, how they cannot come into your home....................but they do......get divorced................Cops come for your guns to store them. hopefully no AW's or HC mags your ex complained about you owning, and ranting about, come the day "they will see the real me."
FUCKING REALITY, boys.
It ain't safe to be your own judge, jury and POTUS...............that unintended brush fire, kitchen fire or neighbor complaint, will fuck you up your sovereign ass, as first responders comb the house for fire, and notice apparent firearm violations....................
GOOOOOOODBYEEEEEEEEEEE.
Don't build a mg or non compliant gun............ain't worth it. Fed time is bad and State time is worse.
It will be a decade at least I predict before SCOTUS takes up an AW bill.............those dozen states banning them now, may grow to 25+
Remember the AWB was Federal in 1994 but grandfathered AW's, and mags, but NYS did not in the end.
They were afraid of armed MAGA at the time..WACO types...Farmaid types.....................but ignored the BLM types............now the shoe is on the other foot............disarmed BLM now use knives, molotov's, fireworks, bats, frozen ice bottles and vehicles.....................best endorsement of the SAFE Act there is.
All cops sleep better knowing this, today, that 100 million+ AR's are not in the hands of the BLM/fat dumb cat lady/greenies- eco terrorists contingent, thru OTC Wal-Mart buys
BLW surveys indicate 55% of BLM hates whites, and the others did not answer the survey, -----------Mr. homeowner and gun owner and pension holder.........you done stole it all on the backs of the BLM............and now Allah lovers just want you dead in large crowds..................vests, bombs, vehicles, knives.
Yep the SAFE ACT is working for me.
No FFL helps you do that either.
Press Releases | ATF
www.atf.gov
ATF arrests about 25,00 sovereign types a year, and prosecutes and jails 5,000 or so, of those, non plea bargain arrestees.
The NYSP arrest at leasat 100++ a year for SAFE ACT violations, and many other gun crimes. You read it here on those traffic stops and DV home searches.
Bitch bith bitch, how they cannot come into your home....................but they do......get divorced................Cops come for your guns to store them. hopefully no AW's or HC mags your ex complained about you owning, and ranting about, come the day "they will see the real me."
FUCKING REALITY, boys.
It ain't safe to be your own judge, jury and POTUS...............that unintended brush fire, kitchen fire or neighbor complaint, will fuck you up your sovereign ass, as first responders comb the house for fire, and notice apparent firearm violations....................
GOOOOOOODBYEEEEEEEEEEE.
Don't build a mg or non compliant gun............ain't worth it. Fed time is bad and State time is worse.
It will be a decade at least I predict before SCOTUS takes up an AW bill.............those dozen states banning them now, may grow to 25+
Remember the AWB was Federal in 1994 but grandfathered AW's, and mags, but NYS did not in the end.
They were afraid of armed MAGA at the time..WACO types...Farmaid types.....................but ignored the BLM types............now the shoe is on the other foot............disarmed BLM now use knives, molotov's, fireworks, bats, frozen ice bottles and vehicles.....................best endorsement of the SAFE Act there is.
All cops sleep better knowing this, today, that 100 million+ AR's are not in the hands of the BLM/fat dumb cat lady/greenies- eco terrorists contingent, thru OTC Wal-Mart buys
BLW surveys indicate 55% of BLM hates whites, and the others did not answer the survey, -----------Mr. homeowner and gun owner and pension holder.........you done stole it all on the backs of the BLM............and now Allah lovers just want you dead in large crowds..................vests, bombs, vehicles, knives.
Yep the SAFE ACT is working for me.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Keep in mind the shooter wasn’t charge with removing his magazine lock. He was charged with having an assault weapon that was a fully function one based on state laws. He also had a 30-round mags that is illegal under state law.
Mean arms was punished because their directions showed how to remove the lock and it was used to kill people in a racially motivated killing. I have physically seen police, state police, and county sheriffs see nearly the exact same mag lock on many ARs at the Hamburg gun show. The FFL making and selling them has not been arrested, please explain this??
Some people will endorse the subject being railed against in order to promote thinking on the subject, trying to encourage fairness and introspection....others, well I'll let you figure it out.
To finish that thought…..Then again some people are unable to see the chains that bind them.
It was a hell of a shock to me (and MANY that followed) when I came to NY that I had to have a Handgun Licenses and what it took to get that Licenses, even being a Soldier on Active Duty in the Army, nope, nothing for you, where I had previously enjoyed buying/selling/trading and USING Handguns in Florida without anymore oversight in buying one than filling out one of the old Yellow 4473's that required nothing more than a Copy of my Electric Bill for approval if I even needed that. (If the Dealer was known to you, that would suffice for verification/identification)
Yea, I've fought for Rights and against restrictive Legislation, complied, played by the Riles and Paid what was demanded of me, but I have had enough, I've carried those chains far too long and have served my time, as have our Brethren who have moved to free States without looking back.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
You are constantly equating our disdain for the safe act with being sovereign citizens. You are wrong, and that is not accurate. Just because we disagree with a law does not mean we think the law DOESNT apply to us, or that there wouldnt be consequences for breaking it.You would not ever be able to present such an low life idiotic argument to any Court room judge............it is like saying you have no jurisdiction over me, Judge, or the cops..............that makes you "make up my own laws", natural laws sovereign type--- but you are a likely keyboard commando sovereign, and do not actually violate the SAFE ACT knowingly.
No FFL helps you do that either.
Press Releases | ATF
ATF arrests about 25,00 sovereign types a year, and prosecutes and jails 5,000 or so, of those, non plea bargain arrestees.
The NYSP arrest at leasat 100++ a year for SAFE ACT violations, and many other gun crimes. You read it here on those traffic stops and DV home searches.
Bitch bith bitch, how they cannot come into your home....................but they do......get divorced................Cops come for your guns to store them. hopefully no AW's or HC mags your ex complained about you owning, and ranting about, come the day "they will see the real me."
FUCKING REALITY, boys.
It ain't safe to be your own judge, jury and POTUS...............that unintended brush fire, kitchen fire or neighbor complaint, will fuck you up your sovereign ass, as first responders comb the house for fire, and notice apparent firearm violations....................
GOOOOOOODBYEEEEEEEEEEE.
Don't build a mg or non compliant gun............ain't worth it. Fed time is bad and State time is worse.
It will be a decade at least I predict before SCOTUS takes up an AW bill.............those dozen states banning them now, may grow to 25+
Remember the AWB was Federal in 1994 but grandfathered AW's, and mags, but NYS did not in the end.
They were afraid of armed MAGA at the time..WACO types...Farmaid types.....................but ignored the BLM types............now the shoe is on the other foot............disarmed BLM now use knives, molotov's, fireworks, bats, frozen ice bottles and vehicles.....................best endorsement of the SAFE Act there is.
All cops sleep better knowing this, today, that 100 million+ AR's are not in the hands of the BLM/fat dumb cat lady/greenies- eco terrorists contingent, thru OTC Wal-Mart buys
BLW surveys indicate 55% of BLM hates whites, and the others did not answer the survey, -----------Mr. homeowner and gun owner and pension holder.........you done stole it all on the backs of the BLM............and now Allah lovers just want you dead in large crowds..................vests, bombs, vehicles, knives.
Yep the SAFE ACT is working for me.
There is no doubt that if someone were caught with an ar that was not compliant that they would be arrested and prosecuted. That doesnt mean we agree with it. Its clearly unconstitutional based on the 2a, and the majority of states in this country that agree. Its unfortunate that the courts in NY have a leftist bias, and the right case hasnt made it to scotus yet.
NO ONE is saying the law isnt real, and there are countless laws that have been passed and ultimately discarded once found unconstitutional. Just because a law gets passed doesnt mean its right. Until a law is found unconstitutional we are all subject to them, even if we dont agree.
Not only are you not a 2a supporter, but you are either a flat out troll or just not that bright since you keep repeating that nonsense about sovereign citizens.
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The ATF is violating the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution as well as U.S. law. Their gun registry must be dismantled. The ATF needs to be eliminated. It's unconstitutional. All the 3 letter agencies are unconstitutional. What we have is cartel running things. A gang! Criminals! If you can't see that your head has been bounced to many times.You would not ever be able to present such an low life idiotic argument to any Court room judge............it is like saying you have no jurisdiction over me, Judge, or the cops..............that makes you "make up my own laws", natural laws sovereign type--- but you are a likely keyboard commando sovereign, and do not actually violate the SAFE ACT knowingly.
No FFL helps you do that either.
Press Releases | ATF
ATF arrests about 25,00 sovereign types a year, and prosecutes and jails 5,000 or so, of those, non plea bargain arrestees.
The NYSP arrest at leasat 100++ a year for SAFE ACT violations, and many other gun crimes. You read it here on those traffic stops and DV home searches.
Bitch bith bitch, how they cannot come into your home....................but they do......get divorced................Cops come for your guns to store them. hopefully no AW's or HC mags your ex complained about you owning, and ranting about, come the day "they will see the real me."
FUCKING REALITY, boys.
It ain't safe to be your own judge, jury and POTUS...............that unintended brush fire, kitchen fire or neighbor complaint, will fuck you up your sovereign ass, as first responders comb the house for fire, and notice apparent firearm violations....................
GOOOOOOODBYEEEEEEEEEEE.
Don't build a mg or non compliant gun............ain't worth it. Fed time is bad and State time is worse.
It will be a decade at least I predict before SCOTUS takes up an AW bill.............those dozen states banning them now, may grow to 25+
Remember the AWB was Federal in 1994 but grandfathered AW's, and mags, but NYS did not in the end.
They were afraid of armed MAGA at the time..WACO types...Farmaid types.....................but ignored the BLM types............now the shoe is on the other foot............disarmed BLM now use knives, molotov's, fireworks, bats, frozen ice bottles and vehicles.....................best endorsement of the SAFE Act there is.
All cops sleep better knowing this, today, that 100 million+ AR's are not in the hands of the BLM/fat dumb cat lady/greenies- eco terrorists contingent, thru OTC Wal-Mart buys
BLW surveys indicate 55% of BLM hates whites, and the others did not answer the survey, -----------Mr. homeowner and gun owner and pension holder.........you done stole it all on the backs of the BLM............and now Allah lovers just want you dead in large crowds..................vests, bombs, vehicles, knives.
Yep the SAFE ACT is working for me.
What a bogus legal argument, as it is all personal opinion.
The body of law opposes you.
The SAF, and other pro gun lawyer orgs, like 4 boxes diner, know this bogus argument by Sovereign citizen types.
The jails are full of people who ignore the gun laws, due to their natural rights.
A regular newsletter.:
www.atf.gov
The body of law opposes you.
The SAF, and other pro gun lawyer orgs, like 4 boxes diner, know this bogus argument by Sovereign citizen types.
The jails are full of people who ignore the gun laws, due to their natural rights.
A regular newsletter.:
Press Releases | ATF
www.atf.gov
What a bogus legal argument, as it is all personal opinion.
The body of law opposes you.
The SAF, and other pro gun lawyer orgs, like 4 boxes diner, know this bogus argument by Sovereign citizen types.
The jails are full of people who ignore the gun laws, due to their natural rights.
A regular newsletter.:
Press Releases | ATF
No Opinion!! Legal argument is on MY SIDE!
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You sure do love that (un) SAFE Act don't you? NICS checks too...keeps all those unworthy people from making lawful purchases for guns they're prohibited from having and likely intend on using illegally.
Many said "fuck you, I'm not registering shit!" and they didn't, ironically while actually IN the Gun Business at that time I only had (1) Rifle offered for a bargain price, but did sell the shit outta stripped Lowers and Bullet Buttons.
DA's know this is a no-win situation, so a plea bargain to a lesser charge and surrender of the weapon is more likely.
I would be interested to hear more about who lured you in and your expertise to advise on such an ill-conceived Law.
Bullshit, they have them, they always did, and always will...not that many Gun Owners have Boats or are going to "dump: the Rifle they spent a thousand Dollars on because the democrats used a crisis to enact unpopular and unwanted Legislation.
Modean
.223 Rem
They are among us. I was just banned from the R/NYGuns subreddit because a Mod disagreed with my opinion. Commies like guns too, apparently.
Communist love guns as long as they are the only ones that have them. Kind of like Police Chiefs and Generals. They all tend to think “my people are the only ones who should have guns.”
I am a realist...............regarding turning liberties into taxation, THIS is done in all 50 states regarding drivers licenses and vehicle registrations.................even NICS tests, proof of AGE, ID, etc etc.
You cannot establish a toll road in front of your home, and charge a fee to pass.
You cannot establish a toll road in front of your home, and charge a fee to pass.
What's seemingly never questioned is that the Lock was installed by the Dealer, but did the Dealer give the package to the buyer? Did the kid go on-line to look for those instructions? buy or look at the package to see? Only thing I see here is a money grab under the Flag of JustUS.
Oh yea, and searching stats to support zero's claims of "125,000 arrested..." The only thing I found close was this: https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/fact-sheet/facts-and-figures-fiscal-year-2024
Must be my google-foo is weak sauce.
You most certainly can if you own that Road passing through your private property....there are lots of places down South where someone installs a Boat Ramp into the Water and they charge a Fee to launch there...IIRC Ferries are more often than not Private, and they charge, and if you make a Road in front of your House on your Land, well you could very well require compensation to access that very roadway.
You may be a "realist" but your reality is seemingly flawed as it's without sound abstract.
Yawn...
The jails are full of convicts who ignore gun laws!
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Fucking stoner! Made up world in his own mind! Cognizant dissonance... Removed from reality!
NY, pleads down and deals case after case and idiots accept them, because they do not want precedent established. Take the Safe Act or more... It doesn't happen!
If you separate those convicted of violent felonies, drug convictions, etc... and search for "Pure" 2A convictions, you will have a very very difficult time finding case law to support your thesis! And when you do find those needles in haystacks, you'll also see eventual reversal by higher courts!
The jails are full of convicts who ignore gun laws!
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Fucking stoner! Made up world in his own mind! Cognizant dissonance... Removed from reality!
NY, pleads down and deals case after case and idiots accept them, because they do not want precedent established. Take the Safe Act or more... It doesn't happen!
If you separate those convicted of violent felonies, drug convictions, etc... and search for "Pure" 2A convictions, you will have a very very difficult time finding case law to support your thesis! And when you do find those needles in haystacks, you'll also see eventual reversal by higher courts!
Yeah we know, Illegal!