Democrats frown on targeting gang databases with 'red flag' laws

[Madmallard]

House Democrats this week advanced a new measure to encourage states to pass “red flag” laws, known as extreme risk protection orders, that authorize removing guns and ammunition from dangerous individuals.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee amended the measure during a Wednesday mark-up to authorize the federal government to issue extreme risk protection orders in some instances, but they rejected an amendment that would have red-flagged anyone who law enforcement lists as a gang member.

“The majority of violent crime, including gun violence, in the United States is linked to gangs,” Rep. Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican who sponsored the amendment, said Wednesday. “My amendment is quite simple. It would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable cause to include that individual in the database.”

Democrats frown on targeting gang databases with 'red flag' laws

 

[kev74]

The democrat party...Protecting gang members, illegals, klansmen, racists, criminals and slaveholders since, well, since forever.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Yeah but a ton of people wind up in databases and have no way of knowing they're even in the database or a mechanism to challenge it.

I like the idea in theory, I think it probably sucks in practice. Dems would probably just turn around and add the facackta "no fly list" to the list of databases.

 

[MadScientist]

By the beard of Zeus, these people are retarded.

 

[tirwin1]

They just gave the game away. Red flag laws for rural/suburban white people that probably vote republican - of course! Fast track that bill. But when someone wants to add actual criminal gang members - watch them put the brakes on the legislation. They can't upset one of their core constituencies.

 

[GOPerfect]

The Demoncrats are truly afraid to go after the real cancers that plague this nation. They are afraid of upsetting certain demographics. They are afraid to go into some of these "communities".

They are cowards. Really want to decrease crime; murder, rape, robbery and the like? Go into the inner cities--- go after the true fifth of our society.

Destroy the inner city mentality. Destroy the true vermin within our boarders.

 

[spat]

The Demoncrats are truly afraid to go after the real cancers that plague this nation. They are afraid of upsetting certain demographics. They are afraid to go into some of these "communities".

They are cowards. Really want to decrease crime; murder, rape, robbery and the like? Go into the inner cities--- go after the true fifth of our society.

Destroy the inner city mentality. Destroy the true vermin within our boarders.

Not to mention that if they actually solved those problems, then they couldn't use them as justification for another power grab.

 

[togmaster]

They are protecting their voting block.

 

[Catskillkid]

I have mixed feelings on this. I think we all know that the whole "red flag" law phenomenon is to mostly target rural/suburban white conservatives. If it was just to take guns out of society they would be all about having gang members be red flagged.

But at the same time I don't like any government "lists" since they've been shown time and time again to be proven forms of government abuse. Remember the "No Fly" lists that had Ted Kennedy on it? Or many of the other No Fly No Buy type lists that are out there. I mean if the City of San Francisco can declare that the NRA is a terrorist organization then why can't the whole federal government do the same then just red flag every NRA member? Too much potential for abuse.

 

[spat]

I have mixed feelings on this. I think we all know that the whole "red flag" law phenomenon is to mostly target rural/suburban white conservatives. If it was just to take guns out of society they would be all about having gang members be red flagged.

But at the same time I don't like any government "lists" since they've been shown time and time again to be proven forms of government abuse. Remember the "No Fly" lists that had Ted Kennedy on it? Or many of the other No Fly No Buy type lists that are out there. I mean if the City of San Francisco can declare that the NRA is a terrorist organization then why can't the whole federal government do the same then just red flag every NRA member? Too much potential for abuse.

The whole thing stinks.

The only point of the gang member amendment is to point out the hypocrisy of the supporters of the original bill.

We all know if it passes it's only a matter of time until everyone who ever posted on a gun board or had an NRA membership is "flagged".

 

[Bigfoot]

How does someone become a far left wacko Democrat?
How does anyone do that?

They are so fucking dumb.
I do not get it.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

I have mixed feelings on this. I think we all know that the whole "red flag" law phenomenon is to mostly target rural/suburban white conservatives. If it was just to take guns out of society they would be all about having gang members be red flagged.

But at the same time I don't like any government "lists" since they've been shown time and time again to be proven forms of government abuse. Remember the "No Fly" lists that had Ted Kennedy on it? Or many of the other No Fly No Buy type lists that are out there. I mean if the City of San Francisco can declare that the NRA is a terrorist organization then why can't the whole federal government do the same then just red flag every NRA member? Too much potential for abuse.