Democrats propose ban on high-capacity magazines in wake of Las Vegas attack

[livingston]

Democrats propose ban on high-capacity magazines in wake of Las Vegas attack

• Plan is to ban magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition

• Democrats from Connecticut and Nevada to introduce legislation in House

• Democrats are planning to introduce legislation to ban high-capacity ammunition magazines in the wake of the Las Vegas attack that left at least 59 people dead and nearly 500 more injured.
  
  The proposed ban on the transfer, importation, or possession of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition follows separate legislation to ban “bump stocks”, the novelty device that Stephen Paddock appears to have used to make semi-automatic rifles mimic the rapid fire of a fully automatic weapon.
  
  Researchers have long described a previous federal ban on high-capacity magazines as the most effective part of the now lapsed 1994 assault weapon ban, since larger magazines make it easier for a shooter to fire more rounds without pausing to reload.
  
  Mark Barden, whose seven-year-old son Daniel was killed in the 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook elementary school, said a ban on higher-capacity magazines would save lives.
  
  “When a person perpetrates a mass shooting, like the one that took the life of my sweet little Daniel, the capacity of a magazine can often determine how many bullets are fired before the shooter is stopped. Each time a shooter must pause to reload can provide an opportunity for bystanders or law enforcement to disarm, distract, or escape – each time can save so many lives,” Barden said in a statement.

• “Establishing a maximum magazine capacity is simply the kind of commonsense action we can all agree on to help make our families and communities safe.”

• A similar attempt to ban high-capacity magazines failed in the US Senate in 2013, months after the Sandy Hook shooting, with 46 senators approving the measure and 54 voting against it.
  
  The new high-capacity magazine ban legislation will be introduced in the House by Elizabeth Esty, a Democratic congresswoman who represents Newtown, Connecticut, the site of the 2012 Sandy Hook shooting, and several Democratic House members from Nevada, where the Las Vegas shooting took place.

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Democrats propose ban on high-capacity magazines in wake of Las Vegas attack

 

[Deplorable Me]

Overtime at Magpul.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Democrats worry about magazine capacity but never worry about how many minds Hollywood has poisoned.

 

[Cleck]

Maybe this is a good place to put this question, but law-wise at least here in NY, is there a differentiation between "standard capacity" and high capacity? It's just anything over 10 rounds, right? Many pistols have a standard capacity mag over 10 rounds, usually 13 or 15 rounds, and higher on some. In making a 10 round magazine law, owners either have to modify/sell/destroy the standard magazine and buy a special magazine, correct? Owning a standard capacity (stock) magazine basically makes it owning a high capacity magazine, thus making it a felony if caught, right?

 

[livingston]

Overtime at Magpul.

Andy boy will be running around boasting he wanted only 7 rounds ... Let him pronounce that in every corner of the union... Let every gun owner in America know his thoughts on this subject.... No white house for you andy ...

 

[freddy]

Maybe this is a good place to put this question, but law-wise at least here in NY, is there a differentiation between "standard capacity" and high capacity? It's just anything over 10 rounds, right? Many pistols have a standard capacity mag over 10 rounds, usually 13 or 15 rounds, and higher on some. In making a 10 round magazine law, owners either have to modify/sell/destroy the standard magazine and buy a special magazine, correct? Owning a standard capacity (stock) magazine basically makes it owning a high capacity magazine, thus making it a felony if caught, right?

If it can accept more than 10 rounds you be in trouble man! Simple as that.

 

[Cleck]

If it can accept more than 10 rounds you be in trouble man! Simple as that.

Basically what I thought, but I heard or read about the standard vs high the other day. Just wondering. Thanks

 

[freddy]

A similar attempt to ban high-capacity magazines failed in the US Senate in 2013, months after the Sandy Hook shooting, with 46 senators approving the measure and 54 voting against it.

46 to 54. Damn close. Is the question 'if' they get banned? Or is the question when do they get banned?

 

[Steal2B]

 

[E the massive]

Democrats worry about magazine capacity but never worry about how many minds Hollywood has poisoned.

One needs a conscience in order to worry.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

So this is national legislation being introduced?


Man the gun grabbers are having wet dreams right now

 

[Marine Cpl]

Let it all pass. I hope it does. Then we'll see finally get somewhere.

 

[Cureforcancer]

Let it all pass. I hope it does. Then we'll see finally get somewhere.

It will not. Even the powerful NRA bent over.
Wet dreams for the Dems now.!

 

[MothMan]

Going to be a lot of new felons if this is passed

 

[ProgSpear]

Banning people killing people was spelled out in the ten commandments, and generally in the laws of every civilized western culture in the world since the enlightenment, at least. Dhimmicrats have been undermining any institution that stood for any of those values for the last 100 years or so. It's really nice to know they think that banning H/C mags is finally an acceptable substitute to them. [/SARC]

 

[freddy]

Is there a grandfather clause?

 

[Darth]

They are more of a novelty anyway.

I say let them have High caps, as long as we get ICBMs.

 

[MikeyCNY]

Let it all pass. I hope it does. Then we'll see finally get somewhere.

Aww man, do I have to go unbury my shit now?

 

[livingston]

Is there a grandfather clause?

 

[Grimscale]

They are more of a novelty anyway.

I say let them have High caps, as long as we get ICBMs.

huh? Is this sarcasm?


"more of a novelty"? not for the majority of the Country. Only in oppressed States are standard capacity magazines a "novelty", since we cannot posses them anymore.
And why the correlation to ICBMs? Are you trying to make the anti's arguments for them?

 

[livingston]

Calling Responsible Gun Owners to the Table, Esty Introduces Keep Americans Safe Act
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Congresswoman Elizabeth Esty (CT-5) released her Keep Americans Safe Act, legislation to protect Americans and their families from “large-capacity” magazines, or those able to hold greater than ten rounds. Large-capacity magazines have played a significant role in mass shootings throughout the country, and gun violence prevention advocates argue the magazines are both unsafe and unnecessary.

High-capacity magazines played a prominent role in a number of killings, from the recent tragedy in Las Vegas to the shootings in Newtown, San Bernardino, Tucson, Blacksburg, and countless others. The magazines greatly extend the shooter’s capability to take human life by allowing the assailant to fire dozens or even hundreds of rounds at a time. By enhancing the weapon’s firing capability and reducing the need to reload, mass shooters have been able to train military-grade firepower on their victims.

Esty’s bill was endorsed by leading law enforcement organizations like the International Association of Chiefs of Police and the Major Cities Chiefs Association, the veterans’ organization VoteVets, the gun owners’ group American Coalition for Responsible Gun Ownership, as well as major gun violence prevention organizations throughout the country.

“The horror that the shooter at Sandy Hook was able to inflict with high-capacity magazines is something I have never forgotten,” Esty said. “I became more convinced after every mass shooting that large-capacity magazines serve no other viable purpose but to maximize the loss of human life. Our schools, churches, movie theaters, concerts, offices, and shopping theaters have been turned into brutal killing fields, and it must stop now.

“Every bullet that escapes the barrel of a gun has the potential to end human life – every single one. Every second a shooter spends reloading, and not firing, is a second that a potential victim has to escape. We saw this when former Representative Gabby Giffords and others around her survived the shooting in Tucson.

“There is simply no good reason why sportsmen and women need more than ten rounds in a magazine. No sportsman or woman needs thirty rounds to kill a deer. It’s shameful that we protect our deer better than we protect our people.
Calling Responsible Gun Owners to the Table, Esty Introduces Keep Americans Safe Act

 

[livingston]

House Dems propose bills to stop online ammo sales, ban mags
10/13/17 | by Chris Eger
House Democrats have introduced a number of new gun control measures in the wake of a deadly mass shooting in Las Vegas.

Among the proposals are HR.3962 to ban online ammunition sales, H.R. 4025 requiring gun dealers to report the sale of two or more rifles to the same person in a five-day period, and HR. 4052, which would ban magazines able to hold greater than 10 rounds.

“Several of my colleagues and I have introduced commonsense legislation that, if enacted, would reduce gun violence and the tragic impact it has on our communities,” said U.S. Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman, the New Jersey Democrat sponsoring the Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act.
House Dems propose bills to stop online ammo sales, ban mags

 

[livingston]

Every anti - gun bill ever written will be reintroduced in the next few weeks both at state and federal level ....

 

[MikeyCNY]

Every anti - gun bill ever written will be reintroduced in the next few weeks both at state and federal level ....

I propose they try these bills in Chicago, NYC and LA first to see if they have an effect.

 

[GOPerfect]

All I gotta say is people are funny.

The anti's are funny, the non-gun owner is funny and the gun owner themselves are funny. One of the reasons I love being on gun forums is for all the conversation, both sides of the conversation are funny.

So many in America bitch, bitch and bitch some more; the issue is, that is about all anyone does. So few actually know what they are talking about and even less actually do anything about the issues.

 

[Darth]

huh? Is this sarcasm?


"more of a novelty"? not for the majority of the Country. Only in oppressed States are standard capacity magazines a "novelty", since we cannot posses them anymore.
And why the correlation to ICBMs? Are you trying to make the anti's arguments for them?

No man, I've seen the light. This forum told me that the best way to deal with antis is to give something up, in the hope you gain something you never had a chance at. Suppressors, Reciprocity, ICBMs. Give up something and they will magically give up something else?

It always works that way right?

 

[Mr. terzmo]

10 rounds...Andy must be doing some serious knobbing.....7 was arbitrary and so is 10....both numbers are just made up in the spur of the moment.
I'm waiting for trump to keep his campaign promise of defending the 2nd. He's letting the furher step all over it

 

[Steal2B]

3962 bans all online ammunition sales and wants special reports to the attorney general whenever a citizen buys 1000 rounds of anything in any sliding 5 day period. The bill calls for an approved face to face transaction with an approved photo ID check for any ammo purchase by the FFL. The NJ Congesswoman Bonnie Coleman Watson sponsored this and other gun control legislation (it is interesting to note she somewhat considers herself a gun victim since her 2 sons are both armed robbery felons of a kids-r-us). She apparently indicated to some Moms Demand Action members the controls will also expand to apply to reloading supplies.

In March 2000, one of the Congresswoman's demon seeds William Carter-Watson and her other son Jared Coleman robbed a Mercer Mall Kid-R-Us in Lawrence Township NJ with "automatic weapons", stealing $1,800 and terrifying those in the children's store by forcing them to lie face down on the floor, according to an archived Trentonian story. Reports state she apparently aided in their bail reduction procedures. The congresswoman's sons pleaded guilty to the charges, serving five and a half years in prison until getting some reported hush hush parole thanks in part to mommy dearest. She subsequently helped one of them land a state job. She also subsequently introduced legislation prohibiting employers from performing criminal background checks on prospective employees.

 

[livingston]

 

[livingston]

CT lawmakers keep introducing gun control bills, but face uphill climb
Sens. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., and Chris Murphy, D-Conn., also reintroduced their bill that would repeal a 2005 law promoted by the National Rifle Association, called the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, that makes it difficult to sue gun makers. PLCAA does not prevent gun makers from being held liable for defects in their design, but it shields them from lawsuits stemming from the criminal use of their product.

“Making the gun industry immune from lawsuits effectively handed them a license to kill,” Muphy said.

Blumenthal said the law was used “as a complete barrier to the pursuit of justice” when 10 Sandy Hook families sued the maker of the AR-15 used in the Newtown massacre.

“Our simple measure will give victims of gun violence their day in court and unlock the doors to justice — repealing the sweetheart deal that Congress granted to the gun lobby,” Blumenthal said.

Blumenthal is also the co-sponsor, with Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., of the Senate version of Esty’s high-capacity magazine ban.

Other legislation that was revived after the massacre in Las Vegas on Oct. 1 includes:

• A bill to close a gap in gun laws that allows gun sales to proceed without a background check if one is not completed in 72 hours.
• The “Gun Violence Research Act,” a bill that would repeal a provision that inhibits the Department of Health and Human Services from sponsoring research on gun violence.
• The Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act that would require face-to-face purchases of ammunition, licensing of ammunition dealers and reporting of bulk purchases of ammunition

Every anti-gun bill ever written will be reintroduced in the next few weeks ...