Dr. Evil
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Judge Dismisses Lawsuit Against Pence Over Electoral College Vote Count
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Dr. Evil
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kev74
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Ha ha! Beat you to it!!!
Are you really that blind or are you trolling?
ArmedCorgi
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Christ, these reps keep falling all over themselves trying to do the right thing and all they do is screw up! Going off all half cocked and suing the wrong person/party. These people make laws....????? Who the fuck is driving the car????Judge Dismisses Lawsuit Against Pence Over Electoral College Vote Count
BDinPutnam
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You left that out the batshit crazy theory of the case, which goes something like this- "the Vice President of the United States has a legal, Constitutional right and indeed, duty, to single-handidly decide whether he himself should stay in office for a second term."
I thought I had seen everything from these people but wow. This is like straight up crack smoking nuts.
ArmedCorgi
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Okay, I'm confused, help me out. I know that there needs to be one member of the house and one member of the senate who object for the joint session to stop and for each house to separate and debate the objection. But both the house and the senate need to agree the objection is valid inorder to nullify the election results and have the house vote for the next president.
If that were to happen, then yes, one state one vote and the gop has the majority. However, I think people aren't realizing that no matter how many gop in the house object, there aren't enough votes in the house to nullify. The senate may, but the house won't.
I think people misunderstand that even though there may be multiple reps objecting, that doesn't automatically mean it goes to one state on vote. Both chambers have to agree, right?
Briwesk85
.40 S&W
Yeah that’s my understanding too. As great as this is, I don’t think there is the votes to go to one state one vote unfortunately, unless I am missing something. I think they will object, and after their 2 hour recess, they will just let the electoral college vote continue as normal. It’s like slowing the executable, again, unless I am mistaken.
ArmedCorgi
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I hope I'm wrong and these objections make a difference. I just don't see how we get to one state on vote.
Isn't the vote in house by delegate (i.e., state) not congressman?
yes
ArmedCorgi
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My understand is that only if both the house and senate agree the objections are valid.
masterswimmer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
My understanding is that the objections each of these Representatives and Senators record are not broad. They are objections of the electorates from each of the challenged States, ie: Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, etc. Challenging those electors and then the two hour debate can negate those electors from being counted, negating either candidate from reaching the required 270 electoral votes.
That scenario would trigger the one State one vote outcome.
kev74
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It’s not that long. It’s (relatively) easy to read. And its kind of interesting. You guys should give to a look-see! 
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ArmedCorgi
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My head is spinning.
ArmedCorgi
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If both the senate and house agree. If there isn't concensus, then the electoral packets certified by the states hold.
ArmedCorgi
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Oh, you mean the same constitution the democrats continue to wipe their ass with? Got it. Doesn't matter how much it's read if it isn't followed by the people elected to uphold it.It’s not that long. It’s (relatively) easy to read. And its kind of interesting. You guys should give to a look-see!
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kev74
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I don’t agree with the dem’s trampling of the Constitution, but I think we should have some familiarity with it before we start debating its more obscure provisions amongst ourselves.
ArmedCorgi
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Please tell me where I am wrong. I am on your side and want the same outcome you do.
kev74
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I’m sorry. I wasn’t saying you’re wrong. Just clarifying.
Some of the “suggested” courses of action in the previous 179 pages aren’t really based in reality.
BerettaGuy
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When did the lockdowns start? March and April?
Look at the date on this CNN Report It is dated March 4th
THen the media was reporting how Trump was going out in the dark of night and removing mailboxes.
Then more stories of cutbacks in the Postal Service to "influence the election"
THIS ELECTION WAS STOLEN WITH FRAUDULENT VOTES VIA A CONSPIRACY BETWEEN THE DNC THE MEDIA AND MAYBE EVEN CHINA.
If it is not addressed there is no point if ever voting again!
A Democrat House Senate and President will not fix it.
We owe it to every Veteran buried in graves around the world to fix this!
So if it means that congress revolts against the Electoral College and the left's heads explode, SO FRIGGIN BE IT!
www.cnn.com
Look at the date on this CNN Report It is dated March 4th
THen the media was reporting how Trump was going out in the dark of night and removing mailboxes.
Then more stories of cutbacks in the Postal Service to "influence the election"
THIS ELECTION WAS STOLEN WITH FRAUDULENT VOTES VIA A CONSPIRACY BETWEEN THE DNC THE MEDIA AND MAYBE EVEN CHINA.
If it is not addressed there is no point if ever voting again!
A Democrat House Senate and President will not fix it.
We owe it to every Veteran buried in graves around the world to fix this!
So if it means that congress revolts against the Electoral College and the left's heads explode, SO FRIGGIN BE IT!
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JaguarJaguarGolf
6.5 Creedmoor
Jefferson counted the votes as VP that made him President
JaguarJaguarGolf
6.5 Creedmoor
Does each objection receive 2 hours of debate?
Can each individual vote be objected to and receive 2 hours of debate?
JaguarJaguarGolf
6.5 Creedmoor
Each objection can be written up individually so theoretically we could have 5000 some odd objections that could each receive 2 hours of debate.
Not much different than a 5000 page COVID relief bill
Not much different than a 5000 page COVID relief bill
kev74
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“The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.”
I’m no constitutional scholar like Bathhouse Barry, bit it seems to me the only path to victory at this point for Trump would be if enough states either decertify or fail to deliver their electoral college ballots in time.
Unlikely to be sure, but none of this has gone how anyone expected so far, so who knows.
It would be friggin’ awesome if the delegations from Georgia, Pennsylvania and Arizona took their states’ ballots and lit them on fire on the floor of congress. Epic!!!!
I’m no constitutional scholar like Bathhouse Barry, bit it seems to me the only path to victory at this point for Trump would be if enough states either decertify or fail to deliver their electoral college ballots in time.
Unlikely to be sure, but none of this has gone how anyone expected so far, so who knows.
It would be friggin’ awesome if the delegations from Georgia, Pennsylvania and Arizona took their states’ ballots and lit them on fire on the floor of congress. Epic!!!!
ArmedCorgi
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It's all crazy.“The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.”
I’m no constitutional scholar like Bathhouse Barry, bit it seems to me the only path to victory at this point for Trump would be if enough states either decertify or fail to deliver their electoral college ballots in time.
Unlikely to be sure, but none of this has gone how anyone expected so far, so who knows.
It would be friggin’ awesome if the delegations from Georgia, Pennsylvania and Arizona took their states’ ballots and lit them on fire on the floor of congress. Epic!!!!
BerettaGuy
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Because of this fraud, the voting will of the people is not being followed. All in the name of power.
Let suppose this was your checking account. Not all of your money was stolen but just a little bit. Now you are being asked to stop complaining and just live with the loss.
Let suppose this was your checking account. Not all of your money was stolen but just a little bit. Now you are being asked to stop complaining and just live with the loss.