HOLY SHIT!!! I just got my results back from the same place she got her test done ..... turns out I have lyme disease. Who'd have thunk it??
I think you are looking good these days.
Elizabeth Warren gets a DNA test
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I think you are looking good these days.
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No it means you're the kind that gives that kind a bad name.
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The Vikings had a thing for men in robesThey picked on monasta
They picked on monasteries mostly, you know. The unarmed religious types.
The romans never had success in Scotland or Ireland. It was just England really, but the original people there were Celts too.
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FLASHBACK: Elizabeth Warren Says Her Parents Were “Oppressed” Because Her Mom Was “Cherokee Indian”…
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Since ole Liz seems to have central american DNA that may or may not be of native american origin, according to her geneticist, she should do a quick shift to, 'I'm an illegal alien!'. What the heck, big media will run it as a major asset!!! Just do a 'google on the subject and you would think the DNA test was proof positive that she's a full blooded Indian. Fuck Google and Fauxahontis too.
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Isn’t this a liberals interpretation of cultural appropriation?
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How painful was it for CNN to have a video with that title?
She's put herself into a lovely spot here because Trump is raging, and if she pushes back, she finds herself up against actual indians who say she's BSing.
She should never have said a thing about it.
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Elizabeth Warren Ancestor Rounded Up Cherokees For Trail of Tears
For over a quarter of a century, Elizabeth Warren has described herself as a Native American. When recently asked to provide evidence of her ancestry, she pointed to an unsubstantiated claim on an 1894 Oklahoma Territory marriage license application by her great-great grand uncle William J. Crawford that his mother, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford, Ms. Warren’s great-great-great grandmother, was a Cherokee.
After researching her story, it is obvious that her “family lore” is just fiction.
As I pointed out in my article here on Sunday, no evidence supports this claim. O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford had no Cherokee heritage, was listed as “white” in the Census of 1860, and was most likely half Swedish and half English, Scottish, or German, or some combination thereof. (Note, the actual 1894 marriage license makes no claim of Cherokee ancestry.)
But the most stunning discovery about the life of O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford is that her husband, Ms. Warren’s great-great-great grandfather, was apparently a member of the Tennessee Militia who rounded up Cherokees from their family homes in the Southeastern United States and herded them into government-built stockades in what was then called Ross’s Landing (now Chattanooga), Tennessee–the point of origin for the horrific Trail of Tears, which began in January, 1837.
This new information about Ms. Warren’s true heritage came as a direct result of a lead provided to me by William Jacobson over at Legal Insurrection, who in turn had received the information from one of his readers. Jacobson, who has questioned Warren’s explanation for her law faculty listing, calls this discovery “the ultimate and cruelest irony” of the Warren Cherokee saga.
Elizabeth Warren Ancestor Rounded Up Cherokees For Trail of Tears | Breitbart
For over a quarter of a century, Elizabeth Warren has described herself as a Native American. When recently asked to provide evidence of her ancestry, she pointed to an unsubstantiated claim on an 1894 Oklahoma Territory marriage license application by her great-great grand uncle William J. Crawford that his mother, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford, Ms. Warren’s great-great-great grandmother, was a Cherokee.
After researching her story, it is obvious that her “family lore” is just fiction.
As I pointed out in my article here on Sunday, no evidence supports this claim. O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford had no Cherokee heritage, was listed as “white” in the Census of 1860, and was most likely half Swedish and half English, Scottish, or German, or some combination thereof. (Note, the actual 1894 marriage license makes no claim of Cherokee ancestry.)
But the most stunning discovery about the life of O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford is that her husband, Ms. Warren’s great-great-great grandfather, was apparently a member of the Tennessee Militia who rounded up Cherokees from their family homes in the Southeastern United States and herded them into government-built stockades in what was then called Ross’s Landing (now Chattanooga), Tennessee–the point of origin for the horrific Trail of Tears, which began in January, 1837.
This new information about Ms. Warren’s true heritage came as a direct result of a lead provided to me by William Jacobson over at Legal Insurrection, who in turn had received the information from one of his readers. Jacobson, who has questioned Warren’s explanation for her law faculty listing, calls this discovery “the ultimate and cruelest irony” of the Warren Cherokee saga.
Elizabeth Warren Ancestor Rounded Up Cherokees For Trail of Tears | Breitbart
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I know this may not seem like a very important issue, a bit of it is such a joke, makes it almost seems funny. The ramifications of this can and will be detrimental to the US if her false claims are allowed to go forward. Everything these Libtards and progressives do is calculated.
Bad mojo going on here.
Bad mojo going on here.
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1 in 200 men direct descendants of Genghis Khan
In 2003 a groundbreaking historical genetics paper reported results which indicated that a substantial proportion of men in the world are direct line descendants of Genghis Khan. By direct line, I mean that they carry Y chromosomes which seem to have come down from an individual who lived approximately 1,000 years ago. As Y chromosomes are only passed from father to son, that would mean that the Y is a record of one’s patrilineage. Genghis Khan died ~750 years ago, so assuming 25 years per generation, you get about 30 men between the present and that period. In more quantitative terms, ~10% of the men who reside within the borders of the Mongol Empire as it was at the death of Genghis Khan may carry his Y chromosome, and so ~0.5% of men in the world, about 16 million individuals alive today, do so. Since 2003 there have been other cases of “super-Y” lineages. For example the Manchu lineage and the Uí Néill lineage. The existence of these Y chromosomal lineages, which have burst upon the genetic landscape like explosive stars sweeping aside all other variation before them, indicates a periodic it “winner-take-all” dynamic in human genetics more reminiscent of hyper-polygynous mammals such as elephant seals. As we do not exhibit the sexual dimorphism which is the norm in such organisms, it goes to show the plasticity of outcome due to the flexibility of human cultural forms.
Jason Goldman of Thoughtful Animal reminded me of the 2003 paper a few days ago, so I thought it would be useful to review it again for new readers (as I know most of you have not been reading for 7 years!). To understand how one Y chromosomal lineage can have such a wide distribution across such a large proportion of the human race, here is a quote attributed to Genghis Khan:
The greatest joy for a man is to defeat his enemies, to drive them before him, to take from them all they possess, to see those they love in tears, to ride their horses, and to hold their wives and daughters in his arms.
You’re probably more familiar with the paraphrase in Conan the Barbarian.
The Genetic Legacy of the Mongols:
We have identified a Y-chromosomal lineage with several unusual features. It was found in 16 populations throughout a large region of Asia, stretching from the Pacific to the Caspian Sea, and was present at high frequency: ∼8% of the men in this region carry it, and it thus makes up ∼0.5% of the world total. The pattern of variation within the lineage suggested that it originated in Mongolia ∼1,000 years ago. Such a rapid spread cannot have occurred by chance; it must have been a result of selection. The lineage is carried by likely male-line descendants of Genghis Khan, and we therefore propose that it has spread by a novel form of social selection resulting from their behavior.
1 in 200 men direct descendants of Genghis Khan - Gene Expression
Genghis’ oldest son had 40 legitimate sons; his grandson Kublai Khan had 22. Today, nearly 16 million men, or one in every 200 men on earth, are directly descended from Genghis Khan. In the domains of the former Mongolian Empire, that number rises to one-in-eight. You could say there’s a little bit of Genghis in all of us.
Many of my forebears were from northern Europe ... Looks like I could be Asian in blood ...
In 2003 a groundbreaking historical genetics paper reported results which indicated that a substantial proportion of men in the world are direct line descendants of Genghis Khan. By direct line, I mean that they carry Y chromosomes which seem to have come down from an individual who lived approximately 1,000 years ago. As Y chromosomes are only passed from father to son, that would mean that the Y is a record of one’s patrilineage. Genghis Khan died ~750 years ago, so assuming 25 years per generation, you get about 30 men between the present and that period. In more quantitative terms, ~10% of the men who reside within the borders of the Mongol Empire as it was at the death of Genghis Khan may carry his Y chromosome, and so ~0.5% of men in the world, about 16 million individuals alive today, do so. Since 2003 there have been other cases of “super-Y” lineages. For example the Manchu lineage and the Uí Néill lineage. The existence of these Y chromosomal lineages, which have burst upon the genetic landscape like explosive stars sweeping aside all other variation before them, indicates a periodic it “winner-take-all” dynamic in human genetics more reminiscent of hyper-polygynous mammals such as elephant seals. As we do not exhibit the sexual dimorphism which is the norm in such organisms, it goes to show the plasticity of outcome due to the flexibility of human cultural forms.
Jason Goldman of Thoughtful Animal reminded me of the 2003 paper a few days ago, so I thought it would be useful to review it again for new readers (as I know most of you have not been reading for 7 years!). To understand how one Y chromosomal lineage can have such a wide distribution across such a large proportion of the human race, here is a quote attributed to Genghis Khan:The greatest joy for a man is to defeat his enemies, to drive them before him, to take from them all they possess, to see those they love in tears, to ride their horses, and to hold their wives and daughters in his arms.
You’re probably more familiar with the paraphrase in Conan the Barbarian.
The Genetic Legacy of the Mongols:
We have identified a Y-chromosomal lineage with several unusual features. It was found in 16 populations throughout a large region of Asia, stretching from the Pacific to the Caspian Sea, and was present at high frequency: ∼8% of the men in this region carry it, and it thus makes up ∼0.5% of the world total. The pattern of variation within the lineage suggested that it originated in Mongolia ∼1,000 years ago. Such a rapid spread cannot have occurred by chance; it must have been a result of selection. The lineage is carried by likely male-line descendants of Genghis Khan, and we therefore propose that it has spread by a novel form of social selection resulting from their behavior.
1 in 200 men direct descendants of Genghis Khan - Gene Expression
Genghis’ oldest son had 40 legitimate sons; his grandson Kublai Khan had 22. Today, nearly 16 million men, or one in every 200 men on earth, are directly descended from Genghis Khan. In the domains of the former Mongolian Empire, that number rises to one-in-eight. You could say there’s a little bit of Genghis in all of us.
Many of my forebears were from northern Europe ... Looks like I could be Asian in blood ...
So, as for this video, I do take a negative stance on some of what this Indian had to say. The part that he talks about being upset when an American says they are, for example, Cherokee but they do not belong to the tribe. So, someone cannot be Cherokee of no tribe affiliation?
I know some that are very much Indian but decide not to belong. They are not Indian according to this guy? They decide to live like an everyday American off the Reservation and they are not Indian enough?
Um, whatever...
1 in 200 men direct descendants of Genghis Khan
In 2003 a groundbreaking historical genetics paper reported results which indicated that a substantial proportion of men in the world are direct line descendants of Genghis Khan. By direct line, I mean that they carry Y chromosomes which seem to have come down from an individual who lived approximately 1,000 years ago. As Y chromosomes are only passed from father to son, that would mean that the Y is a record of one’s patrilineage. Genghis Khan died ~750 years ago, so assuming 25 years per generation, you get about 30 men between the present and that period. In more quantitative terms, ~10% of the men who reside within the borders of the Mongol Empire as it was at the death of Genghis Khan may carry his Y chromosome, and so ~0.5% of men in the world, about 16 million individuals alive today, do so. Since 2003 there have been other cases of “super-Y” lineages. For example the Manchu lineage and the Uí Néill lineage. The existence of these Y chromosomal lineages, which have burst upon the genetic landscape like explosive stars sweeping aside all other variation before them, indicates a periodic it “winner-take-all” dynamic in human genetics more reminiscent of hyper-polygynous mammals such as elephant seals. As we do not exhibit the sexual dimorphism which is the norm in such organisms, it goes to show the plasticity of outcome due to the flexibility of human cultural forms.
The greatest joy for a man is to defeat his enemies, to drive them before him, to take from them all they possess, to see those they love in tears, to ride their horses, and to hold their wives and daughters in his arms.
You’re probably more familiar with the paraphrase in Conan the Barbarian.
The Genetic Legacy of the Mongols:
We have identified a Y-chromosomal lineage with several unusual features. It was found in 16 populations throughout a large region of Asia, stretching from the Pacific to the Caspian Sea, and was present at high frequency: ∼8% of the men in this region carry it, and it thus makes up ∼0.5% of the world total. The pattern of variation within the lineage suggested that it originated in Mongolia ∼1,000 years ago. Such a rapid spread cannot have occurred by chance; it must have been a result of selection. The lineage is carried by likely male-line descendants of Genghis Khan, and we therefore propose that it has spread by a novel form of social selection resulting from their behavior.
1 in 200 men direct descendants of Genghis Khan - Gene Expression
Genghis’ oldest son had 40 legitimate sons; his grandson Kublai Khan had 22. Today, nearly 16 million men, or one in every 200 men on earth, are directly descended from Genghis Khan. In the domains of the former Mongolian Empire, that number rises to one-in-eight. You could say there’s a little bit of Genghis in all of us.
Many of my forebears were from northern Europe ... Looks like I could be Asian in blood ...
Same goes about many famous people throughout history. I am a distant Grandson of some the more famous Kings of Norway, Denmark and England. Guess what? So are MILLIONS of others alive today. If one understands the origins of life, this is clear to see.
Sigurd "The Ring" Randversson was a great King of Sweden, Norway and Denmark around 750AD, he had a total of 9 children. Those 9 children had a total of 31 children, their children had children and so on. This one King has an estimated 7,000,000 descendants alive today. Makes my claim of importance pretty low.
Once you go through DNA testing, you will see that more and more people alive today begin to realize they are not always what they thought they were.
Some of the most infused people on Earth today are the Italians. Almost funny how many go though their entire lives thinking their roots are from Italy; once a DNA test is completed, less than 5% are actually Italian. There have been more different groups of people infused into that culture than any other on Earth.
The Greeks...
The Etruscans
The Celts
The Goths
The Lombards
The Byzantines
The Germanic tribes
The Africans,
The list goes on and on.
This entire discussion of Native American decent is rather funny. It is funny because what we know as Native Americans are not really Native to the Americas, they came form somewhere else as well.
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How much American Indian blood is required to be considered Native American?
Native Americans are the people who consist one of the more than five hundred (500) distinguished tribes that still endure as sovereign states with the United States’ present geographical boundaries.
These are the tribes that descended from the pre-Colombian indigenous peoples of North America.
For a person to be considered Native American by the United States government, they must either have a CDIB card or be enrolled in a tribe.
A Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood (CDIB) is issued by the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) an agency under the United States Department of Interior. This certificate (CDIB) is the basis most tribes use to enroll tribe members.
The CDIB is an official U.S. document used to certify that a person does possess a percentage of Native American blood. Note though, the blood must be identified with a federally recognized tribe.
The Bureau of Indian Affairs issues the certificate after the individual has forwarded a finalized genealogy. The genealogy must be submitted with legal documents that include birth certificates, documents showing the applicant’s descents both from the maternal and the paternal sides.
Certificate Degree of Indian Blood card issued to Morris Phillip Konstantin (Phil Konstantin) in 1996. It shows him to be 3/16ths Cherokee by blood.
A certificate of degree of Indian blood shows the constituent blood degree of a particular tribe or that of all tribes in the applicant’s ancestry. The percentage required by each tribe to enroll varies. Some tribes require that a minimum degree must be met before granting membership to an individual.
http://www.powwows.com/dna-results-vs-tribal-enrollment-vs-cdib-mean/
Interestingly, even the federal government requires that you meet a certain minimum before granting you some federal benefits.
To give you an example, the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians a minimum of 1/16 degree of Cherokee blood for tribal enrolment, while the Bureau of Indian Affairs’ Higher Education Grant expects you to have the minimum of ¼ Native American blood percentages.
That is 25% of your blood is from Native American ancestors.
Native Americans are the people who consist one of the more than five hundred (500) distinguished tribes that still endure as sovereign states with the United States’ present geographical boundaries.
These are the tribes that descended from the pre-Colombian indigenous peoples of North America.
For a person to be considered Native American by the United States government, they must either have a CDIB card or be enrolled in a tribe.
A Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood (CDIB) is issued by the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) an agency under the United States Department of Interior. This certificate (CDIB) is the basis most tribes use to enroll tribe members.
The CDIB is an official U.S. document used to certify that a person does possess a percentage of Native American blood. Note though, the blood must be identified with a federally recognized tribe.
The Bureau of Indian Affairs issues the certificate after the individual has forwarded a finalized genealogy. The genealogy must be submitted with legal documents that include birth certificates, documents showing the applicant’s descents both from the maternal and the paternal sides.
Certificate Degree of Indian Blood card issued to Morris Phillip Konstantin (Phil Konstantin) in 1996. It shows him to be 3/16ths Cherokee by blood.
A certificate of degree of Indian blood shows the constituent blood degree of a particular tribe or that of all tribes in the applicant’s ancestry. The percentage required by each tribe to enroll varies. Some tribes require that a minimum degree must be met before granting membership to an individual.
http://www.powwows.com/dna-results-vs-tribal-enrollment-vs-cdib-mean/
Interestingly, even the federal government requires that you meet a certain minimum before granting you some federal benefits.
To give you an example, the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians a minimum of 1/16 degree of Cherokee blood for tribal enrolment, while the Bureau of Indian Affairs’ Higher Education Grant expects you to have the minimum of ¼ Native American blood percentages.
That is 25% of your blood is from Native American ancestors.
Let us post a small video to explain....
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True and not all over the land bridge. DNA findings and archeological discoveries of tools and weapons found on the east cost show Neanderthals from Western Europe we’re here as well over 10,000 years ago. Personally I think what we know of the distant past is 1/2400 of what really went down