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livingston said:
Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, has declassified documents revealing "overwhelming evidence" showing how then-President Barack Obama and his national security team laid the groundwork for what would become the years-long Trump-Russia collusion investigation after President Trump won the 2016 election.
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If they really had "overwhelming evidence" then Obama should have been in cuffs this morning.
Instead it's just more noise in the airwaves. More accusations that We The People have not seen the evidence of.
And STILL no damned arrests!

Until I see a perp walk I'm going on the assumption that they are lying, just like the other side does.
 
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If they really had "overwhelming evidence" then Obama should have been in cuffs this morning.
Instead it's just more noise in the airwaves. More accusations that We The People have not seen the evidence of.
And STILL no damned arrests!

Until I see a perp walk I'm going on the assumption that they are lying, just like the other side does.
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Both sides play us. Both sides have their own evil shit that they get away with. Why else would they try to take away all of our weapons. Why else has the SCOTUS not stood up for our 2nd amendment. They throw a little crumb once in awhile to keep us tamped down and happy while we wait for the next phucking crumb to fall. Will the people ever rise up? Nope, not in our lifetime. We`ve allowed them to destroy us with technology and gadgetry`s. Until the people stop feeding the beast, its just gonna be the same shit until.... well, you know, the thing.
 
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JunkBoxFull said:
Both sides play us. Both sides have their own evil shit that they get away with. Why else would they try to take away all of our weapons. Why else has the SCOTUS not stood up for our 2nd amendment. They throw a little crumb once in awhile to keep us tamped down and happy while we wait for the next phucking crumb to fall. Will the people ever rise up? Nope, not in our lifetime. We`ve allowed them to destroy us with technology and gadgetry`s. Until the people stop feeding the beast, its just gonna be the same shit until.... well, you know, the thing.
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People are not going to rise up... We have one of the best standards of living in the world.... One only has to travel the world just even a little bit to see how well off we are. Sure there is some dissatisfaction in certain segments of our population ... But not enough to up rise .
 
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People are not going to rise up... We have one of the best standards of living in the world.... One only has to travel the world just even a little bit to see how well off we are. Sure there is some dissatisfaction in certain segments of our population ... But not enough to up rise .
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Correct! That`s why i said, "Nope, not in our lifetime."
We`re to comfortable. But one day, it will happen, just not in our lifetime.
 
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One reason why they want the files released now is to flood the airways with this story when trump wanted the story to be about the liberals destroying his presidential runs..... With made up stories

"A Treasonous Conspiracy" - DNI Gabbard Exposes Obama At Center Of Trump 'Russia Hoax'​

Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, has declassified documents revealing "overwhelming evidence" showing how then-President Barack Obama and his national security team laid the groundwork for what would become the years-long Trump-Russia collusion investigation after President Trump won the 2016 election.

"A Treasonous Conspiracy" - DNI Gabbard Exposes Obama At Center Of Trump 'Russia Hoax' | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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Some people just expect this stuff to wrap up nice and neatly like an episode of NCIS. When I was a kid a remember televised hearings on Watergate, it seemed to drag on forever and this is huge by comparison.

And as far as this being a "distraction", one can argue the timing of it, but the truth is this has been in the works for a while, probably near day one that Tulsi started as DNI. Certainly long before the Epstein MEMO was released. The whole Epstein case was on the back burner even in the eyes of the public that were more concerned about the price of eggs at the time and tariffs and border crossings and....whatever else was driving the news cycle. It was actually Trump's admin that moved it to the front with the release of the memo and PR campaign that preceded it. (as some of us have speculated in previous posts, could this all have been to whip up outrage and demand for release? Have they figured out how to use TDS to their advantage?)

It seems some people can only digest this stuff in linear fashion. Anything that overlaps must be a distraction. While this does happen in manipulated news cycles, it is irrational to think it is also happens in the mechanics of it all. Does anyone really want them only working linearly on one thing at a time so it's easier to understand? Screw that, have many pokers in the fire, otherwise nothing will get done.

I have to wonder if this is partly the result of the way people have had their thinking programmed through years of electronic media. The distraction is not in what happens, it's in what they choose to report.

I thought we were the rational thinkers.
 
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JunkBoxFull said:
Both sides play us. Both sides have their own evil shit that they get away with. Why else would they try to take away all of our weapons. Why else has the SCOTUS not stood up for our 2nd amendment. They throw a little crumb once in awhile to keep us tamped down and happy while we wait for the next phucking crumb to fall. Will the people ever rise up? Nope, not in our lifetime. We`ve allowed them to destroy us with technology and gadgetry`s. Until the people stop feeding the beast, its just gonna be the same shit until.... well, you know, the thing.
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"They". Always with the "they". We talk about the gov in terms of "they". As if everything is a conspiracy (and I like conspiracies really). As if they have a collective consciousness that all are in on and breeds nothing but conspiracy and distraction to advance the next conspiracy..oh but wait, this one MUST be a distraction for the next conspiracy...rinse, repeat. When does it ever stop?

If there is a collective consciousness, then it lives and breathes within the Deep State of unelected bureaucrats whose careers span terms and administrations of elected officials. Therein lays the continuity of orchestration. It is they that play both sides against us. They are the coin of which there are two sides and they don't care if it comes up heads or tails - the coin is theirs, they control it. The elected class are often unwitting pawns, or useful idiots. Some are well connected to the DS and knowingly collaborate for their own political success or survival or that of their party. Many have been compromised to make it so. By things like Epstein.

How could Schumer make a statement the IC can "go after Trump 6 ways from Sunday" and somehow be OK with accepting it and not want to join Trump in destroying it? How can a duly elected official of either party be OK having that much power and influence held over them? He tacitly acknowledges the Deep State, content with his own weakness to toe their line. Maybe just another one of the compromised. It's a big Fuck You from the DS to them and all those who elected them.

Hold Trump's feet to the fire, but realize he is not the all powerful Oz. He is not the most powerful man in the world in light of all that has happened to him. He is the most powerful figurehead in the world trying to be the most powerful man by getting after those behind the curtain. For whatever reason, he did not heed the JFK memo. At first neither did Reagan until he got shot. Trump to the contrary still ignores the warning he was given in Butler. At least it seems that way.

We get into this mindset where we are too quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I know things can't happen quick enough for some, but I think the last 6 months have displayed the strongest push against the deep state bureaucracy I've ever seen in my lifetime. I'm just afraid we've been beaten so much we won't recognize a win should it happen and turn it into another beating. Interesting times we live in.
 
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lrick said:
"They". Always with the "they". We talk about the gov in terms of "they". As if everything is a conspiracy (and I like conspiracies really). As if they have a collective consciousness that all are in on and breeds nothing but conspiracy and distraction to advance the next conspiracy..oh but wait, this one MUST be a distraction for the next conspiracy...rinse, repeat. When does it ever stop?

If there is a collective consciousness, then it lives and breathes within the Deep State of unelected bureaucrats whose careers span terms and administrations of elected officials. Therein lays the continuity of orchestration. It is they that play both sides against us. They are the coin of which there are two sides and they don't care if it comes up heads or tails - the coin is theirs, they control it. The elected class are often unwitting pawns, or useful idiots. Some are well connected to the DS and knowingly collaborate for their own political success or survival or that of their party. Many have been compromised to make it so. By things like Epstein.

How could Schumer make a statement the IC can "go after Trump 6 ways from Sunday" and somehow be OK with accepting it and not want to join Trump in destroying it? How can a duly elected official of either party be OK having that much power and influence held over them? He tacitly acknowledges the Deep State, content with his own weakness to toe their line. Maybe just another one of the compromised. It's a big Fuck You from the DS to them and all those who elected them.

Hold Trump's feet to the fire, but realize he is not the all powerful Oz. He is not the most powerful man in the world in light of all that has happened to him. He is the most powerful figurehead in the world trying to be the most powerful man by getting after those behind the curtain. For whatever reason, he did not heed the JFK memo. At first neither did Reagan until he got shot. Trump to the contrary still ignores the warning he was given in Butler. At least it seems that way.

We get into this mindset where we are too quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I know things can't happen quick enough for some, but I think the last 6 months have displayed the strongest push against the deep state bureaucracy I've ever seen in my lifetime. I'm just afraid we've been beaten so much we won't recognize a win should it happen and turn it into another beating. Interesting times we live in.
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Any elites arrested yet? We`re headed into august already, and nothing.
A lot of us thought we voted for Law & Order, and all we got was Lost & Odor.
 
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TEOTWAWKI inc. said:
"Florida man" found a glitch in the matrix. Arrested for threatening to kill everyone whose name is on a list that doesn't exist.

abcnews.go.com

Florida man arrested for threatening to kill 'EVERY ONE' on Epstein 'client list'

A Florida man was arrested last week for allegedly threatening on X to kill "EVERY ONE" on what he believed was the Jeffrey Epstein client list, new court documents show.
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Oh crap I better take down my post about opening up on any jolly ole fat man in a red suit with 8 flying reindeer pulling a sleigh I see on my roof the night of December 24th.
 
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JUST IN: Obama Judge Overseeing Epstein File Release Makes List of Demands​

A federal judge assigned to oversee the Justice Department’s request to unseal Epstein documents has responded with a list of demands.
US District Judge Paul Englemayer, an Obama appointee, responded to the DOJ’s request to unseal grand jury records.
Recall that Judge Englemayer previously blocked DOGE from accessing Treasury records.
Judge Englemayer is now assigned to the Epstein file release case.
Englemayer said he needs more information before he unseals grand jury transcripts:
Englemayer also said he needs a letter from Ghislaine Maxwell and the victims by August 5.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

JUST IN: Obama Judge Overseeing Epstein File Release Makes List of Demands | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

A federal judge assigned to oversee the Justice Department’s request to unseal Epstein documents has responded with a list of demands.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com
 
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Ted Cruz believes Obama will not be prosecuted for treason…

His reasoning… he says the ruling Chief Justice John Roberts made in the Trump v. United States (2024)… where former presidents have absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within their core constitutional powers and presumptive immunity for other official acts, but no immunity for unofficial acts. It complicates things…

The question is, should Obama’s actions wualify as “official acts”?

WHAT DO I THINK?

Obama’s actions, as outlined by DNI Gabbard, involving the manipulating of intelligence to Frame Trump and undermine the 2016 election, would likely NOT qualify as “official acts” under the Supreme Court’s Trump v. United States (2024) ruling, as they are unofficial acts, criminal acts lacking constitutional authority. Plus, you don’t HIDE official acts.
 
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Ted Cruz believes Obama will not be prosecuted for treason…

His reasoning… he says the ruling Chief Justice John Roberts made in the Trump v. United States (2024)… where former presidents have absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within their core constitutional powers and presumptive immunity for other official acts, but no immunity for unofficial acts. It complicates things…

The question is, should Obama’s actions wualify as “official acts”?

WHAT DO I THINK?

Obama’s actions, as outlined by DNI Gabbard, involving the manipulating of intelligence to Frame Trump and undermine the 2016 election, would likely NOT qualify as “official acts” under the Supreme Court’s Trump v. United States (2024) ruling, as they are unofficial acts, criminal acts lacking constitutional authority. Plus, you don’t HIDE official acts.
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Well, Brennan, Clapper and Comey weren't former presidents. They should be prosecuted.
 
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