Federal Judge Declares Constitutional Right to ‘Stable Environment’

[prambo]

A Clinton nominee - obviously has more than a few cans short of a six-pack - wonder if Trump can start culling these wingnuts from the Federal judiciary?

Federal Judge Declares Constitutional Right to 'Stable Environment' - Breitbart

 

[Dr. Evil]

Loons.

 

[meketrefe]

I am all for the environment and love mother nature but isn't this more like an education
thing than pure cheap politics?

 

[carpediem]

Only the most severely mentally retarded think that the climate of earth remains in a constant state. It always has, and always will change. For those that think humans and their behavior have destroyed the environment, answer one question, what does the constant climate of earth look like? Is it what we have now? Is it that which existed a million years ago or that which will in a million years be? No one knows because there is no damned constant. They can predict conditions fifty or sixty years from now but regularly screw up the five day forecast? GTFO!

 

[Jem45472]

Noone knows because there is no damnedconstant. They can predict conditions fifty or sixty years from now butregularly screw up the five dayforecast? GTFO!

They can't even predict the next POTUS

 

[E the massive]

Somebody should inform the environment.

 

[masterswimmer]

Only the most severely mentally retarded think that the climate of earth remains in a constant state. It always has, and always will change. For those that think humans and their behavior have destroyed the environment, answer one question, what does the constant climate of earth look like? Is it what we have now? Is it that which existed a million years ago or that which will in a million years be? No one knows because there is no damned constant. They can predict conditions fifty or sixty years from now but regularly screw up the five day forecast? GTFO!

Wow, mentally retarded huh? If those that don't agree with your 'guaranteed' assessment of human intervention on the environment are labeled so severely why would you expect to be labeled any less of a nut case? The fact remains there are arguments on both sides that are bona fide. Dismissing the entire climate change contention is no more provable than accepting it.....at this juncture.

 

[carpediem]

Wow, mentally retarded huh? If those that don't agree with your 'guaranteed' assessment of human intervention on the environment are labeled so severely why would you expect to be labeled any less of a nut case? The fact remains there are arguments on both sides that are bona fide. Dismissing the entire climate change contention is no more provable than accepting it.....at this juncture.

I don't dismiss it changes at all. Always has and always will. Those who claim humans are to blame only seek to tax those of us who can ill afford it to spend that money on bullshit and forestall nothing. If they had some real solutions and proposals, maybe they would be worth listening to. Sure, humans do negatively impact the environment. Look all across the third world where they dump sewage and garbage right in the street. But, who is saddled with the penalties for this damage? You and I because we have air conditioners and SUVs. The third world is held to little or no standards under these agreements and decrees. The climate is not static. Dismissing that humans are SOLELY responsible for the changes in the climate is backed up by science. Contending that humans are the only driving force for such change is mainly driven by proven "doctored" scientific results and computer models.

 

[meketrefe]

I have been above the artic circle and things are chanting rapidly.
I also crossed the Mediterranean a couple of times and the amount of plastic and shit you find is unprecedented and only comes from humans.
There is a patch of plastic in the pacific double the size of texas.
When killer wales are found dead are treated like toxic waste because of the amount of mercury accumulated
in their fat (last slab of the food chain). The list could go on for thousands of pages.
I don't think that people have to liberal to start caring about the environment.
Same way one doesn't have disregard everything about the environment to take oposite position in politics and following
popular rhetoric. We can be conservative and take charge in environment and conservation efforts.
Discussing what the climate was 6000 years ago or 6M years ago has no relationship with current issues
related to man made problems in recent history.

 

[carpediem]

I have been above the artic circle and things are chanting rapidly.
I also crossed the Mediterranean a couple of times and the amount of plastic and shit you find is unprecedented and only comes from humans.
There is a patch of plastic in the pacific double the size of texas.
When killer wales are found dead are treated like toxic waste because of the amount of mercury accumulated
in their fat (last slab of the food chain). The list could go on for thousands of pages.
I don't think that people have to liberal to start caring about the environment.
Same way one doesn't have disregard everything about the environment to take oposite position in politics and following
popular rhetoric. We can be conservative and take charge in environment and conservation efforts.
Discussing what the climate was 6000 years ago or 6M years ago has no relationship with current issues
related to man made problems in recent history.

I agree that man is messing up the earth. But causing the climate to change at any rate other than that which would occur without a single human on earth is tough to sell to me. Taken further, when you threaten to imprison those who disagree, it further erodes the assertion. The discussion of climate in a historical relation does have a relationship with the climate today. Pollution and climate change are two different things. Of course pollution should be dealt with. Should our electric bills be tripled to give the money to the government to give it to another failed alternative energy venture? That seems to be all that is proposed by the people running the climate change racket. I really doubt taxing me and wasting the money will stop the climate changing. We need to figure out how to deal with the change and quit wasting time thinking we can stop it.

 

[GOPerfect]

Climate change has always been going on and will continue forever. It will never stop changing. Not ever. Every living and every dead creature is to blame. The sun and the stars are too blame. Cows flagulance is too blame. America is to blame. China, and every other world is to blame. It will never end and we, humans, are powerless to stop it. I think the arrogance of man is pure crazy. Humans are not that important nor are we that powerful.

Sure, we can do little things to maybe slow it down, but in the large picture, we are a speck of dirt.

 

[meketrefe]

The solution is not going to come from any government. The less government is involved probably the best. they tend to
fvck up everything they touch. It is up to the communities, education and if the government want to do something simply create
the conditions for alternative ideas to get fair chance. In the short term we need natural gas, nuclear to pivot but if we want
clean energy in the long term we need to let the people grow and flourish in alternative living conditions and also invest in zero
footprint including not just providing from their own energy but to be able to sell it back into the grid.
I can invest more in a confortable home if I know when I am on vacation my home is actually making money by selling the energy back into
the grid. There is real incentive.
The solution in the long term is generation from non specific source so instead of a commodity we need to see this as a
common opportunity. But there are some pretty dark forces against this. And trust me they do not care bout what is best for you or me or our children
in the future. I say empower the individual. Afterall freedom of speech and freedom of market go mano a mano.
And we know this is not about hippie communites or radical ideas anymore. this shit works.

 

[meketrefe]

I am tired tonight but I will put a few examples that define very well how the energy corruption system works.
Look up the Sun Tax in Spain. ... will be coming here one day too no matter what government. Wait for it.
Isn't the idea that the same way many here we want to be preppers or we simply want to be less reliable on big government and
their infrastructure and abuses?
well what about being 100% off the grid but having all the comforts of a modern home? Total cost at the end of the year is possibly
around $60 for the propane for cooking. Everything else is $0.
Kits go as low as $40K and it is not just power but also water collection and treatment of drinking water and gray and black water
that is all used for different purposes.
This is not a hippie project but a reality for a modern home. total cost of ownership is not cheaper than a competitive modern home
but the advantage is when you are done building you are off the grid for good. You have both 125v. and 12 volt circuits and nothing
is missing from a modern home including free hot water, heating and cooling using geo termal.
The designs are limited by the terrain but there are many adaptive floor plans and styles to choose from.

 

[Phauxtoe]

That is known as an activist judge which is way out of bounds !

laws are meant to be written by legislators

someone needs a bitch slap

 

[carpediem]

Funny, there is a guy on the radio talking about how he and some scientists are looking at evidence building for a not so distant ice age. Decreased solar activity, the fluctating magnetic field, increasing volcanic activity above and below the oceans all contribute to the changing climate. NOAA estimates there could be millions of volcanoes on the sea floor, and during periods of hyper activity actually heat the ocean and alter currents. They are putting together the evidence that there are also several cycles coming around right around this time, and those cycles will cause upheaval in the climate and trigger an ice age. My thing, as it relates to this idiotic ruling by a brain dead judge is that climate itself, as with the vast majority of nature, is cyclic and thus there is NO right nor guarantee of a "stable environment". It is such an uneducated and uninformed ruling as to be utterly laughable, but there are those that will get behind this wholeheartedly and worship Leonardo DiCaprio as he flys all around the earth spouting how we should live while he does exactly the opposite.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Yep. Who created the ice ages of past? Chinese dinosaurs?