Federal suppressor ban and buy back introduced, no you won’t be able to keep ‘em

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Apeman said:
Yeah because every shooting that's happened has had a suppressor on the weapon. And it made the gun whisper quiet like in the movies so nobody heard the shots. Idiots
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But we have to stop it before it could happen. They admit it hasn’t happened.
 
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It is amazing that these devises are legal in so many countries around the world, including most of Europe. Most require a license to own a firearm, the suppressor is nothing more than an addendum to that license, and some countries like New Zealand it is an off the shelf item.
But then, the fools that make these laws have shown publicly they have little, no, and or, false knowledge of firearms in general so with something like a suppressor they must rely on Hollywood to broaden their understanding.
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Strange that they are attacking something that is so heavily regulated. Curious as to the motivations behind that thought process.

1. Occams Razor explanation, That they just hate guns and anything to do with them and this looks like low hanging fruit.
2. Political pushback against any revival of Hearing Protection Act.
3. Test case for completely outlawing NFA items, success here will open the door for SBR's next, mooting any pistol brace discussion.
4. Test for confiscation actual. Small demographic, Registry existing, Less controversial than a gun confiscation. Likely less pushback from the gun community. All FUDD gun owners and a majority of others won't care enough to protest this ban. (bumpstock and pistol brace example)
5. Anti gunners will see the effective use of registry/confiscation bolstering support for universal background checks.
6. A big win amid many losses and coming losses on the gun control front.
7. All of the above.

These are not stupid people when it comes to politics and subjugating the citizenry. They know that silencers don't make guns silent. They know that silencers are already heavily regulated. They know that silencers are rarely if ever used in crime. They know that perhaps they can't "eat the elephant" in one sitting and continue to gnaw away at the fringes, eventually they'll get it all. They know that there will be little support against their infringement, even by members of the gun community, as they chip away toward their ultimate goal of disarming the citizens.
Make no mistake that this is what they seek. They know that there will be no large scale resistance as they continue their incremental, inexorable march toward their goal. They are in mid way in this process as we speak. They have been banning and confiscating for a while, first with fringe items that aren't actually firearms, things that FUDDs don't care about (AWBs, mag bans and limits). NFA and all semi auto bans are coming (look at the semi auto rifle permit here). How long until they require registry of all semi auto rifles? How long until registry/universal background checks for everything. Look at the SAFE provision that allows that arbitrary suspension of a PP allows for confiscation of all guns. By the time most of the cun community wakes up to this fact all that will be left to resist will 70 year old FUDDs with their .270 deer rifles and box of 18 rounds and their O/U skeet guns and some #8 low brass shells. I know most people on this forum already know these things but to paraphrase the grabbers "If it only opens one set of eyes".
 
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Start buying metal lathes and stock some metal, tools and dies...

And FUCK them!

What a bunch of BS!

If, and of course it's an assumption, but IF they (Fed Govt) continues this BS acronym agency BS enacted by the current administration, ie, enabled Oligarchy, with the Executive Branch of out Govt bypassing the Legislative and Judicial branches forcing it's will... What do we suppose might go wrong?

The unprecedented seizure of powers and expansion of powers not specifically granted by the Constitution is despicable and reprehensible! But sooner or later, the action like nature prescribes and is exhibited in physics, will cause an opposite reaction! It's just a matter of when, or how much force in one direction is required in order to tip the scale enough to cause that reaction! It's not a question of "if"?

I never thought it possible, but I'm more convinced lately that it will happen. Just nobody knows when.

The longest lasting REPUBLIC, or Govt close to our experiment, existed for around 500yrs. We are currently half way there, but those numbers don't mean anything. The 500yr cycle was when things were much slower, so we can ask does the industrial, technology, communication revolutionary progress also effect this timeline, ie, accelerated (now)? Who knows...

But the mistake is to assume that things went or can't change? And if we are to be students of history, we learn that change doesn't come by writing letters to those complicit in it's bastardization or shooting holding signs in the streets. It comes ONLY by FORCE! And is why this RIGHT is preserved within the Constitution!

Anyways... Excuse the rant, lol. Just writing my thoughts... Now heading back to my regular programming :D
 
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IrishMick said:
Strange that they are attacking something that is so heavily regulated. Curious as to the motivations behind that thought process.

1. Occams Razor explanation, That they just hate guns and anything to do with them and this looks like low hanging fruit.
2. Political pushback against any revival of Hearing Protection Act.
3. Test case for completely outlawing NFA items, success here will open the door for SBR's next, mooting any pistol brace discussion.
4. Test for confiscation actual. Small demographic, Registry existing, Less controversial than a gun confiscation. Likely less pushback from the gun community. All FUDD gun owners and a majority of others won't care enough to protest this ban. (bumpstock and pistol brace example)
5. Anti gunners will see the effective use of registry/confiscation bolstering support for universal background checks.
6. A big win amid many losses and coming losses on the gun control front.
7. All of the above.

These are not stupid people when it comes to politics and subjugating the citizenry. They know that silencers don't make guns silent. They know that silencers are already heavily regulated. They know that silencers are rarely if ever used in crime. They know that perhaps they can't "eat the elephant" in one sitting and continue to gnaw away at the fringes, eventually they'll get it all. They know that there will be little support against their infringement, even by members of the gun community, as they chip away toward their ultimate goal of disarming the citizens.
Make no mistake that this is what they seek. They know that there will be no large scale resistance as they continue their incremental, inexorable march toward their goal. They are in mid way in this process as we speak. They have been banning and confiscating for a while, first with fringe items that aren't actually firearms, things that FUDDs don't care about (AWBs, mag bans and limits). NFA and all semi auto bans are coming (look at the semi auto rifle permit here). How long until they require registry of all semi auto rifles? How long until registry/universal background checks for everything. Look at the SAFE provision that allows that arbitrary suspension of a PP allows for confiscation of all guns. By the time most of the cun community wakes up to this fact all that will be left to resist will 70 year old FUDDs with their .270 deer rifles and box of 18 rounds and their O/U skeet guns and some #8 low brass shells. I know most people on this forum already know these things but to paraphrase the grabbers "If it only opens one set of eyes".
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You forgot one,

the disarmament of the entire country for whatever the hell it is they have planned. They want no push back from whatever it is they are planning to do , Mandatory this, mandatory that, Yadda yadda yada. The 2nd A is a major thorn in their side .
 
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IrishMick said:
Strange that they are attacking something that is so heavily regulated. Curious as to the motivations behind that thought process.

1. Occams Razor explanation, That they just hate guns and anything to do with them and this looks like low hanging fruit.
2. Political pushback against any revival of Hearing Protection Act.
3. Test case for completely outlawing NFA items, success here will open the door for SBR's next, mooting any pistol brace discussion.
4. Test for confiscation actual. Small demographic, Registry existing, Less controversial than a gun confiscation. Likely less pushback from the gun community. All FUDD gun owners and a majority of others won't care enough to protest this ban. (bumpstock and pistol brace example)
5. Anti gunners will see the effective use of registry/confiscation bolstering support for universal background checks.
6. A big win amid many losses and coming losses on the gun control front.
7. All of the above.

These are not stupid people when it comes to politics and subjugating the citizenry. They know that silencers don't make guns silent. They know that silencers are already heavily regulated. They know that silencers are rarely if ever used in crime. They know that perhaps they can't "eat the elephant" in one sitting and continue to gnaw away at the fringes, eventually they'll get it all. They know that there will be little support against their infringement, even by members of the gun community, as they chip away toward their ultimate goal of disarming the citizens.
Make no mistake that this is what they seek. They know that there will be no large scale resistance as they continue their incremental, inexorable march toward their goal. They are in mid way in this process as we speak. They have been banning and confiscating for a while, first with fringe items that aren't actually firearms, things that FUDDs don't care about (AWBs, mag bans and limits). NFA and all semi auto bans are coming (look at the semi auto rifle permit here). How long until they require registry of all semi auto rifles? How long until registry/universal background checks for everything. Look at the SAFE provision that allows that arbitrary suspension of a PP allows for confiscation of all guns. By the time most of the cun community wakes up to this fact all that will be left to resist will 70 year old FUDDs with their .270 deer rifles and box of 18 rounds and their O/U skeet guns and some #8 low brass shells. I know most people on this forum already know these things but to paraphrase the grabbers "If it only opens one set of eyes".
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People believe what they see in Hollywood and only contract killers use them to double tap someone in the back of the head with a .22. I had these conversations so yes this is what people believe
 
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Silencers were developed for silent target practice, and killing.

How many suppressors does the IRS own? FBI, DHS? EPA, Nina Jankowicz's censorship dept?

PLENTY, AND ARE USED on 9mm subguns and some pistols.

Largely ineffective on 5.56 and .308....
I don't want one or a pistol brace either, or a slidefire, but the replacement AR trigger market will be hit next.

BUY MORE GUNS.
 
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holdover said:
You forgot one,

the disarmament of the entire country for whatever the hell it is they have planned. They want no push back from whatever it is they are planning to do , Mandatory this, mandatory that, Yadda yadda yada. The 2nd A is a major thorn in their side .
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Of course armed freemen are a massive thorn is the side of their one world agenda. Once we are effectively dis-armed I shudder at the atrocities they will perpetrate on us. Not to offend, but I think it will be on a scale that will make earlier events look like a trip to Chuck-E-Cheese.

Saltwater60 said:
People believe what they see in Hollywood and only contract killers use them to double tap someone in the back of the head with a .22. I had these conversations so yes this is what people believe
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Agree that the general populace thinks like you say. The gun grabbing politicians however DO know the actual realities of the things that they try to ban. They know silencers don't make guns silent (though pretty damn quiet when using sub sonic ammo). They just parrot the myths that hollywood and the media spout because it strikes up fear amongst the sheep to ease the way to banning guns. Sheila Jackson Lee knows that an AR15 isn't as heavy as ten moving boxes and doesn't shoot .50bmg. That idiot DeLeon knows that a ghost gun doesn't shoot a ".30 caliber clip" in half a second. Even that General who was on video knows "Fully Semi Automatic" is bullshit. However, when they spout this inane crap and hollywood and the MSM back these talking points, the average citizen with low firearms knowledge will believe it and support more loss of their freedoms.
 
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what is a suppressor / silencer ...

any device that reduces the sound of the gun shot ..

say good bye to ear protection .. it reduces the sound



LOL ..

anyone have some ear pro they can slap on the muzzle of a gun for a photo

the new and improved gun silencer

LOL
 
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The left’s argument should be countered with a question and answer:
How many legally owned silencers were used in a crime last year? Answer — none. ( if I am wrong it’s pretty close to none)
 
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Truebeliever said:
The left’s argument should be countered with a question and answer:
How many legally owned silencers were used in a crime last year? Answer — none. ( if I am wrong it’s pretty close to none)
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So what is the motivation? Its not being used in crimes, what the hell is the reason for the push?
 
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Truebeliever said:
The left’s argument should be countered with a question and answer:
How many legally owned silencers were used in a crime last year? Answer — none. ( if I am wrong it’s pretty close to none)
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That's not a counter. That's an irrelevant question.
The left's "argument" is countered simply with "not no, but fuck no!", quickly followed by "You don't like it eliminate the Constitution".
After that, it's all over since there will no longer be a valid government.
 
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IrishMick said:
Strange that they are attacking something that is so heavily regulated. Curious as to the motivations behind that thought process.

1. Occams Razor explanation, That they just hate guns and anything to do with them and this looks like low hanging fruit.
2. Political pushback against any revival of Hearing Protection Act.
3. Test case for completely outlawing NFA items, success here will open the door for SBR's next, mooting any pistol brace discussion.
4. Test for confiscation actual. Small demographic, Registry existing, Less controversial than a gun confiscation. Likely less pushback from the gun community. All FUDD gun owners and a majority of others won't care enough to protest this ban. (bumpstock and pistol brace example)
5. Anti gunners will see the effective use of registry/confiscation bolstering support for universal background checks.
6. A big win amid many losses and coming losses on the gun control front.
7. All of the above.

These are not stupid people when it comes to politics and subjugating the citizenry. They know that silencers don't make guns silent. They know that silencers are already heavily regulated. They know that silencers are rarely if ever used in crime. They know that perhaps they can't "eat the elephant" in one sitting and continue to gnaw away at the fringes, eventually they'll get it all. They know that there will be little support against their infringement, even by members of the gun community, as they chip away toward their ultimate goal of disarming the citizens.
Make no mistake that this is what they seek. They know that there will be no large scale resistance as they continue their incremental, inexorable march toward their goal. They are in mid way in this process as we speak. They have been banning and confiscating for a while, first with fringe items that aren't actually firearms, things that FUDDs don't care about (AWBs, mag bans and limits). NFA and all semi auto bans are coming (look at the semi auto rifle permit here). How long until they require registry of all semi auto rifles? How long until registry/universal background checks for everything. Look at the SAFE provision that allows that arbitrary suspension of a PP allows for confiscation of all guns. By the time most of the cun community wakes up to this fact all that will be left to resist will 70 year old FUDDs with their .270 deer rifles and box of 18 rounds and their O/U skeet guns and some #8 low brass shells. I know most people on this forum already know these things but to paraphrase the grabbers "If it only opens one set of eyes".
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One Step Closer...moving the Overton Window!
 
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Grimscale said:
That's not a counter. That's an irrelevant question.
The left's "argument" is countered simply with "not no, but fuck no!", quickly followed by "You don't like it eliminate the Constitution".
After that, it's all over since there will no longer be a valid government.
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You’re preaching to the choir. The counter is to get the independents to think. Say the counter and the ask the question, what is the real reason they are trying to pass this law? Distraction from their failed policies.
 
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All a bunch of BS, but this part makes me wonder WTF??
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  • Provide limited exceptions for certain current and former law enforcement personnel, for certain Atomic Energy personnel ...?
  • Really? Atomic energy personnel??
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They have to pander to current/former LEOs not to get their support, but to avoid their active opposition.

The Atomic Energy Personnel.....? No ideas on that one.
 
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