Vapor
.308 Win
My local range finally opened. I decided I would take and zero one rifle.
I took my 20" Fraken upper.
Unknown upper (Anchor Harvey)
20" melonite yhm fluted 1:7 barrel
15" Seekins keymod rail
PSA premium BCG
Low pro gas block
Bcm gunfighter ambi ch
Troy sights (Previously checked for zero)
Larue Can 30mm mount
Burris Mtac 1-4 (Which is normally $430, I was able to get it for $200)
Larue trigger
Impressions of the rifle:
I've shot this rifle before. With irons and simple 5.56 winchester ammo I was able to hold 2" 10 shot groups at 100 yards off of a Caldwell rock jr. The trigger is excellent and Troy sights rarely need any adjustment. The 15" rail affords an amazing sight raduis.
The Scope: I generally don't like LVPOs I've tried. I didnt like my Primary arms 1-6. This MTAC is better in many, many ways. The middle dot is very small. The horse shoe is a perfect size, and the glass is bright and clear with only a small hint of distortion on 1x. The glass is better than the PA, the turrets are superior, and the ocular adjustment is tight. The rectile is not too busy for my brain and is quick to pick up. The eye box is very forgiving and its quick to pick up when shouldering. It has about 4" is eye relief which works well with the generous eye box. The scope only weights 14 oz.
This is my second Burris, and it screams quality all the way. The turrets are 1/2 moa. They are both audible and tactile. Unlike say, my VX-3, they are also precise. If you click 1 click, it's very noticeable, and it will adjust accordingly.
There is a stop between each illumination setting. At full sun, it is not daylight bright. Once clouds come, it is.
While off of a rock jr whose rest had come loose, I was able to zero the optic quite quickly. While some groups would show dispersion, I believe it is the nature of the dot. They always would easily take out a man size target. Adjustment was precise, and I was able to seek out several 1" to 2" 5 shot groupings. The dot, while small, does obscure about a 1" circle at 100 yards on. 4x.
Once zeroed, where this scope really shines is speed. I shot off hands at 50 yards unsupported and was able to quickly put up a 1 1/2" group by simply centering the target on the horse shoe.
This scope is very fast and easy to use.
I also shot 75 grain hornaday hollow points and 55 grain soft points. At 100 yards off of a pile of boards, they got me groups approximately 1-2". Poi was not significantly different between the 55 grain AE and the two hornaday loads.
I was very pleased. Poud for pound this is one of my most accurate uppers. It may seem silly to put a 1-4 on it, but the optics are clear, and it affords me great speed. I understand why people like this style of scope now. Its 1x is capable of clearing a room, and on 4x you can reach out. It's like an edtech on the bottom end and an acog on the top end. It does a little bit of everything reasonably well.
Things I learned:
1. For precision adjustments, I will use to 200 yard stadia next range trip. This will be far more precise than the dot. I'm not sure why I did not think of this.
2. My rock jr. Fell apart. I need to a. Consider always taking my Harris as a back up. B. Get an multi Allen key wrench for the range bag.
3. Chrome and stainless barrels are unnecessary. A quality melonite/nitride barrel will be lighter and more accurate than either, while lasting nearly as long as chrome and nearly corrosion resistant as 416r barrels.
4. The yhm barrel is excellent. The profile is very smart. Heavy at the chamber all the way to the gas block, but lighter at the muzzle. You know, the oppsite of usgi.
5. The larue trigger is almost as good as a gieslle at 1/2 the price. The CAN qd mount is also great.
6. I prefer the BCM gun fighter over the Gieslle ability ch I have. It does everything they do, has a slimmer profile, and was 1/2 the cost.
7. If you don't have a 20" upper, get one. Softer shooting and way less gas issues.
8. Shooting guns is fun.
I was covered in mudd and sweat. My rifle is muddy. I am happy with everything.
If only the rifle wasn't lost in a freak fire on the way home...er...um...
I took my 20" Fraken upper.
Unknown upper (Anchor Harvey)
20" melonite yhm fluted 1:7 barrel
15" Seekins keymod rail
PSA premium BCG
Low pro gas block
Bcm gunfighter ambi ch
Troy sights (Previously checked for zero)
Larue Can 30mm mount
Burris Mtac 1-4 (Which is normally $430, I was able to get it for $200)
Larue trigger
Impressions of the rifle:
I've shot this rifle before. With irons and simple 5.56 winchester ammo I was able to hold 2" 10 shot groups at 100 yards off of a Caldwell rock jr. The trigger is excellent and Troy sights rarely need any adjustment. The 15" rail affords an amazing sight raduis.
The Scope: I generally don't like LVPOs I've tried. I didnt like my Primary arms 1-6. This MTAC is better in many, many ways. The middle dot is very small. The horse shoe is a perfect size, and the glass is bright and clear with only a small hint of distortion on 1x. The glass is better than the PA, the turrets are superior, and the ocular adjustment is tight. The rectile is not too busy for my brain and is quick to pick up. The eye box is very forgiving and its quick to pick up when shouldering. It has about 4" is eye relief which works well with the generous eye box. The scope only weights 14 oz.
This is my second Burris, and it screams quality all the way. The turrets are 1/2 moa. They are both audible and tactile. Unlike say, my VX-3, they are also precise. If you click 1 click, it's very noticeable, and it will adjust accordingly.
There is a stop between each illumination setting. At full sun, it is not daylight bright. Once clouds come, it is.
While off of a rock jr whose rest had come loose, I was able to zero the optic quite quickly. While some groups would show dispersion, I believe it is the nature of the dot. They always would easily take out a man size target. Adjustment was precise, and I was able to seek out several 1" to 2" 5 shot groupings. The dot, while small, does obscure about a 1" circle at 100 yards on. 4x.
Once zeroed, where this scope really shines is speed. I shot off hands at 50 yards unsupported and was able to quickly put up a 1 1/2" group by simply centering the target on the horse shoe.
This scope is very fast and easy to use.
I also shot 75 grain hornaday hollow points and 55 grain soft points. At 100 yards off of a pile of boards, they got me groups approximately 1-2". Poi was not significantly different between the 55 grain AE and the two hornaday loads.
I was very pleased. Poud for pound this is one of my most accurate uppers. It may seem silly to put a 1-4 on it, but the optics are clear, and it affords me great speed. I understand why people like this style of scope now. Its 1x is capable of clearing a room, and on 4x you can reach out. It's like an edtech on the bottom end and an acog on the top end. It does a little bit of everything reasonably well.
Things I learned:
1. For precision adjustments, I will use to 200 yard stadia next range trip. This will be far more precise than the dot. I'm not sure why I did not think of this.
2. My rock jr. Fell apart. I need to a. Consider always taking my Harris as a back up. B. Get an multi Allen key wrench for the range bag.
3. Chrome and stainless barrels are unnecessary. A quality melonite/nitride barrel will be lighter and more accurate than either, while lasting nearly as long as chrome and nearly corrosion resistant as 416r barrels.
4. The yhm barrel is excellent. The profile is very smart. Heavy at the chamber all the way to the gas block, but lighter at the muzzle. You know, the oppsite of usgi.
5. The larue trigger is almost as good as a gieslle at 1/2 the price. The CAN qd mount is also great.
6. I prefer the BCM gun fighter over the Gieslle ability ch I have. It does everything they do, has a slimmer profile, and was 1/2 the cost.
7. If you don't have a 20" upper, get one. Softer shooting and way less gas issues.
8. Shooting guns is fun.
I was covered in mudd and sweat. My rifle is muddy. I am happy with everything.
If only the rifle wasn't lost in a freak fire on the way home...er...um...
