Gallup: Partisan divide over NRA growing, could turn gun control into ‘litmus test’

[livingston]

Gallup: Partisan divide over NRA growing, could turn gun control into ‘litmus test’
The partisan divide among Americans’ views of the National Rifle Association grew further apart this year, according to a recent survey.

Gallup polled more than 1,500 adults last month and found nearly nine in 10 identified Republicans held favorable views of the NRA versus just 24 percent of Democrats. The 64-point spread grew by one-third since the last time Gallup asked in October 2015. Since the organization first posed the question 29 years ago, the gap between Republican and Democrat has quadrupled.

The most recent 11-point drop in Democrats’ views, however, “may reflect a variety of factors,” pollsters said. “Including substantial support among Democratic leaders for tougher gun control legislation after a series of high-profile mass shootings in the past few years,” said RJ Reinhart in an analysis of survey results. “In particular, efforts by survivors of the February 2018 shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, to put pressure on Congress to pass new gun control laws may be affecting U.S. Democrats’ opinions of the NRA.”

Gallup: Partisan divide over NRA growing, could turn gun control into ‘litmus test’

 

[Deplorable Me]

Because of the political harassment that goes on a number of persons I know refuse to participate in any polls, this is inclusive of pro 2A persons. I hope these silly bastards are motivated vote with a vengeance.

 

[ProgSpear]

"Gun Control" should be a litmus test. It is a reliable guide to your views on the Constitution and the rule of law. If you believe (as the progressive left does) that the loudest mob can alter the content, meaning, and intent of the Constitution, and nullify basic rights by screaming the longest and loudest, then you have no legitimate claim on conducting the affairs of this country, whether as dogcatcher up to president.

 

[Mosinitis]

I don't think partisan polarization helps us here in NY. We are not the majority here, but a sizable voting block which is ignored by both parties as loyal one party voters.
This is why both parties are screwing us here.

 

[ProgSpear]

I don't think partisan polarization helps us here in NY. We are not the majority here, but a sizable voting block which is ignored by both parties as loyal one party voters.
This is why both parties are screwing us here.

Please demonstrate to me how gun control is not a partisan issue. Gun control is the incremental means by which the fascist progressive left intends to disarm the general populace. I personally view that as a polarizing issue.

 

[Mosinitis]

Please demonstrate to me how gun control is not a partisan issue. Gun control is the incremental means by which the fascist progressive left intends to disarm the general populace. I personally view that as a polarizing issue.

I can give you a number of blue states with reasonable gun laws. Vermont, Delaware, Pennsylvanian, Oregon, Washington state and a number of others. I doubt you will care, because your mind is brainwashed by a party that does nothing for you except telling you how awful is the other side. This is how they get our support without doing anything for us.

 

[Mosinitis]

Why CMP is so successful, because they moved away from partisan politics and stick to shooting instead of being used as political ass wipe.

 

[Mosinitis]

Even in NY state there were a few democrats who always voted pro-gun (Sweeney on L.I.), but when NY GOP threw us under the bus with the SAFE act, I didn't expect them to stick their neck out.

 

[ProgSpear]

I can give you a number of blue states with reasonable gun laws. Vermont, Delaware, Pennsylvanian, Oregon, Washington state and a number of others. I doubt you will care, because your mind is brainwashed by a party that does nothing for you except telling you how awful is the other side. This is how they get our support without doing anything for us.

OK, you just jumped the shark on this one.

First of all, these blue states with so called "reasonable gun laws" are all trending more toward the totalitarian left, particularly as the Democrat party careens to the hard left, and they all vie to go to the left of one another. This means that ALL of them will become more draconian in an effort to prove that they are true believers to their urban base.

Second, you are right that I don't care, but you are utterly wrong as to the reasons. The totalitarian left has demonstrated over and over that there is no such thing as a "reasonable gun law" since they are never reasonably satisfied, and in true leftist fashion they never address a real problem directly. (the cake analogy that Dr. Evil keeps repeating comes to mind.) Amid all the word cloud bullshit about "reasonable" and "common sense" and "protecting children" their clear goal is total civilian disarmament, and they have proven that any and all of your (our) individual rights are forfeit in pursuit of their goals.

Finally you are WAAAAYYYYY off base thinking I have any love or respect for the GOPe, and that I am "brainwashed by a party". Once elected, both sides of the aisle belong to the Uniparty, and re-election becomes the primary goal, so I am stuck with voting for what I perceive to be the lesser evil. On occasion I am pleasantly surprised at how my representatives support my views. As an example, my assemblyman, Anthony Brindisi, voted against SAFE, knowing it would safely pass, (no pun, honest) but he could pander to voters in the district. Now that he's running against Claudia Tenney, (NY-22) he's shading away from his pro-2A stance, whereas SHE HAS NOT!

Would you like to guess who I will vote for? I hope you understand why I consider the views of any candidate on the 2A to be a litmus test. To me, it is a clear indication of where your true allegiance lies; if you are against the 2A, you are against the Constitutional order.

 

[Mosinitis]

Gun control is not at the top of the list of the so called left, it is pushed by the "middle of the road" of both parties. You can't get any more left than Vermont and it has the best gun laws in the country. Obama was the most liberal president and he didn't push through a single gun law. Don't bother telling me he couldn't, he definitely could. It wasn't his priority. You only listen to what politicians talk about, I watch what they actually do or don't do.
Rhetoric means nothing, actions or lack there of is the only thing that counts.

 

[carpediem]

OK, you just jumped the shark on this one.

First of all, these blue states with so called "reasonable gun laws" are all trending more toward the totalitarian left, particularly as the Democrat party careens to the hard left, and they all vie to go to the left of one another. This means that ALL of them will become more draconian in an effort to prove that they are true believers to their urban base.

Second, you are right that I don't care, but you are utterly wrong as to the reasons. The totalitarian left has demonstrated over and over that there is no such thing as a "reasonable gun law" since they are never reasonably satisfied, and in true leftist fashion they never address a real problem directly. (the cake analogy that Dr. Evil keeps repeating comes to mind.) Amid all the word cloud bullshit about "reasonable" and "common sense" and "protecting children" their clear goal is total civilian disarmament, and they have proven that any and all of your (our) individual rights are forfeit in pursuit of their goals.

Finally you are WAAAAYYYYY off base thinking I have any love or respect for the GOPe, and that I am "brainwashed by a party". Once elected, both sides of the aisle belong to the Uniparty, and re-election becomes the primary goal, so I am stuck with voting for what I perceive to be the lesser evil. On occasion I am pleasantly surprised at how my representatives support my views. As an example, my assemblyman, Anthony Brindisi, voted against SAFE, knowing it would safely pass, (no pun, honest) but he could pander to voters in the district. Now that he's running against Claudia Tenney, (NY-22) he's shading away from his pro-2A stance, whereas SHE HAS NOT!

Would you like to guess who I will vote for? I hope you understand why I consider the views of any candidate on the 2A to be a litmus test. To me, it is a clear indication of where your true allegiance lies; if you are against the 2A, you are against the Constitutional order.

Well written and I couldn't have said it better myself! I concur with this post, wholeheartedly.

 

[Cooolone]

Poll?

Don't mean shit!

Really useless information, let alone trying to align the NRA as representing "all" gun owners when the group has how many members vs gun owners? LMAO!

Polls... Yeah ok

 

[Burzum]

The problem as always is the establishment of each party setting the tone for fundraising and motivation. Paul Ryan dose not speak for me, Pelosi does not speak for rural Democrats.

Now a pro-choice Republican is a pariah like a pro-gun Democrat in the beltway.

In the last decade, the NRA has focused on keeping majorities because Congressional majorities set the agenda, therefore Democrats who use to be more pro-gun than RINOs get very little fanfare from the NRA and are treated by fellow Dems as sellouts (and terrorists-like all NRA members). This discourages pro-gun Dems from even running.

Also the Democratic Party is changing radically, I doubt in your lifetime if you will see a Dem presidential hopeful go hunting with their Mossberg like John Kerry did in 2004 for a photo-op.

 

[Grimscale]

You can't get any more left than Vermont and it has the best gun laws in the country.

"in 2018, the state enacted laws requiring background checks for private sales, raising the minimum age to purchase firearms to 21, banning the sale of handgun magazines that hold more than 15 rounds and rifle magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, banning the possession of bump stocks, and allowing police to seek a court order to seize guns from anyone deemed an extreme risk."


So they've decided that you have to get government permission to sell your property. They've decided to enshrine in their laws age-discrimination. They've decided to arbitrarily limit the number of rounds you are allowed to load at any time. They've decided to ban a toy. And finally, they've decided to allow the infringement of Lawful American's Rights based on hearsay and conjecture.

you want to explain how you consider these to be "the best gun laws in the country"? Each and every one of them are an infringement of the Second Amendment, violate due process, and, in general, only punish the law-abiding.

Obama was the most liberal president and he didn't push through a single gun law.

you're right, in the narrow little world you've created for yourself. Obama did not push through a single gun LAW.

What he did was use Executive Orders to infringe on the Second Amendment Rights of law-abiding citizens. This is WORSE than pushing through unConstitutional Laws since they are, in effect, totalitarian decrees which somehow seem to not be challengable.

I watch what they actually do or don't do.

Fair point. And Obama definitely DID infringe.

I doubt you will care, because your mind is brainwashed by a party that does nothing for you

I am not Republican. I am not brainwashed by either party. I see through their lies and indoctrinations.
BOTH Parties do nothing for America. They've become so disgustingly focused on their own existence and power that they've become a threat to our Republic.

for me, gun control has definitely become a polarizing issue.
It is up to the Republicans to make good on their promises and restore American Rights to what they should be. The Democrats have already declared their anti-Americanism, IMHO.

 

[Mosinitis]

It was a republican governor who signed new gun restrictions in Vermont. Until April of 2018 they had the best gun laws in the country. Obama did nothing except talked. His executive orders didn't do any damage, unless you listen to partisan spin. He was also the first president to ok transfer of government handguns to CMP. Your brainwashing is showing.
Refusal to face reality is telltale sign of indoctrination.

 

[Mosinitis]

He knows that both parties do damage, but he still parrots republican talking points, when they are clearly not true. Neither party needs you to love them, what they want is to steal your vote by lying about the record of opposite party. Simpletons take this bait hook, line and sinker.

 

[Grimscale]

It was a republican governor who signed new gun restrictions in Vermont. Until April of 2018 they had the best gun laws in the country. Obama did nothing except talked. His executive orders didn't do any damage, unless you listen to partisan spin. He was also the first president to ok transfer of government handguns to CMP. Your brainwashing is showing.
Refusal to face reality is telltale sign of indoctrination.

so the Executive Action to remove the guns of Veterans who have a guardian process their finances never happened?
Obama may have signed a Spending BIll that included authorization to transfer 10,000 1911s to the CMP (I believe the wording in the Bill was "may transfer"), but were those guns ever actually transferred? It's easy enough to claim authorization when, in fact, nothing was ever done.

Your brainwashing is showing. And trying to claim that of others is a sure sign of projecting.

 

[Mosinitis]

so the Executive Action to remove the guns of Veterans who have a guardian process their finances never happened?
Obama may have signed a Spending BIll that included authorization to transfer 10,000 1911s to the CMP (I believe the wording in the Bill was "may transfer"), but were those guns ever actually transferred? It's easy enough to claim authorization when, in fact, nothing was ever done.

Your brainwashing is showing. And trying to claim that of others is a sure sign of projecting.

Everyone here knows that government 1911's were transferred to CMP. They are being sold by CMP at this time. Sounds like you are more interested in politics than guns.
Which executive action you are talking about? I don't care about the spin version, give me the real version.
I couldn't care less about Obama and I think he was an awful president, but what bugs me is how republican spin machine is blowing smoke up our asses.

 

[Dinkus the Stinkus]

I don't think partisan polarization helps us here in NY. We are not the majority here, but a sizable voting block which is ignored by both parties as loyal one party voters.
This is why both parties are screwing us here.

This is why we need to abolish political parties. They do nothing but give the politicians power over us. We the people should be running this country but instead we are being ruled over by our government, exactly what was fought for to create this country.

 

[Grimscale]

Everyone here knows that government 1911's were transferred to CMP. They are being sold by CMP at this time. Sounds like you are more interested in politics than guns.

Yes, they've been transferred and are sold NOW.
You suggested in your posts that this was done under Obama, yet, so far, everything I've read states that they were not, actually, transferred and sold during his term, but only after Trump became President and made the transferal mandatory. If you have evidence otherwise I would be happy to view it.

Which executive action you are talking about? I don't care about the spin version, give me the real version.

I believe this is one of the "rules" that was a danger of denying Second Amendment Rights to Veterans.
Federal Register :: Implementation of the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007

I couldn't care less about Obama and I think he was an awful president, but what bugs me is how republican spin machine is blowing smoke up our asses.

Just the Republican spin machine? Seems to me that the Democrats have been going hog-wild trying to "spin" a lot of things lately. Most of which aren't true. From the lies of the origin of the child removal laws, to the lethality of certain types of guns they don't like, to their track record on jobs and finances.
Why would only Republican spin machines upset you? You're being lied to by both sides.