Garland says DOJ would ‘advance’ Biden’s pro-gun control policies

[Dr. Evil]

When will enough be enough?

For some, never. I see it in my office in a similar vein. I'll consult with someone who is on a few meds for high bp, cholesterol, etc.. They have chronic pain, can't bend over to tie their shoes, are exhausted after walking up a flight of steps, yada, yada, yada. They waste no time though telling me how overall they are healthy. Some sadly have no rock bottom. That's what worries me in regards to this.

 

[ProgSpear]

Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people or reduce them to slavery by arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.
– John Locke.

 

[nortatoga]

I would think if we're talking in the context of the 2A, "shall not be infringed" would be clear and concise language for a LEO to stand on if he/she refuses to enforce a law restricting 2A. I don't know where we went wrong (way before I was born obviously) but that language could not have been any clearer. I think the founding father's only mistake was not listing it first and specifying that it exists to protect the following nine rights.

The violations to the Second Amendment have been happening since the amendment was first created.

These violations are not new, the American people have been being violated since 1794.

From Oct 2012..

 

[Shadow rider]

I hope the lakes thaw soon...I foresee many boating accidents in the coming months!

 

[Shadow2]

I have talked about this a bit in the past. While some laws are easy to see they are being violated, others are not.

We do have a system of checks and balances in the US, sometimes those checks work and other times, they do not.

While many will fault the Police all of the time, I only fault them some of the time. There are many officers in many departments that have no clue of the deep, deep down laws and regulations in these once United States. They look at current laws, laws passed by the elected body. They enforce these laws.

While I try to my job very well, I will never lie, my paycheck and the survival of my family are always foremost in my mind. I do not go out of way to violate the Rights of the people though.

Many officers do not always know all of the law, that would be impossible. Each and everyday, out elected elite pass more and more garbage; no way any cop can be apprised of all of the changes. Quick example of this, this is one experience that I had years ago. In my town, there is a parking ban during the winter months. I for got to move my truck, I got a ticket. I researched a bit and went to court. I found an old, very old law in my town that made it unlawful to park a vehicle in the driveway over night due to fire codes of decades passed. I brought that newly found information to court and beat the parking ticket. The following month, the old law was removed from the Town laws.


I will ask this question and see if it can stay civil....


What makes a law un-Constitutional? Serious question. Who decides what is and what is not a violation of the Constitution? Do we want the street cop to decide on the side of the road?

YES, see how easy an answer that is. Bill of rights are pretty simple and strait forward.

 

[GOPerfect]

YES, see how easy an answer that is. Bill of rights are pretty simple and strait forward.

I think I know where you are coming from, but, if that were the case, we would have zero use or need for the higher courts. We would in fact be ruined if everyday cops were making the decisions on the roadside.

A liberal cop sees the 2A quite differently that you and I , do you want that cop to interpret the way he sees?

This is where it becomes very difficult.

I have co-workers that believe the 2A is only for the Militia.

This could be a serious mess.

 

[Shadow2]

I think I know where you are coming from, but, if that were the case, we would have zero use or need for the higher courts. We would in fact be ruined if everyday cops were making the decisions on the roadside.

A liberal cop sees the 2A quite differently that you and I , do you want that cop to interpret the way he sees?

This is where it becomes very difficult.

I have co-workers that believe the 2A is only for the Militia.

This could be a serious mess.

Then he can go to jail for violating peoples rights, but they don't, and its why we had riots in the streets all summer.

 

[GOPerfect]

Then he can go to jail for violating peoples rights, but they don't, and its why we had riots in the street all summer.

Which cops view is correct? This is why we have courts. This is why we need courts.

This is not the reason for the riots BTW

 

[Shadow2]

Which cops view is correct? This is why we have courts. This is why we need courts.

This is not the reason for the riots BTW

The courts have been clear. You have liberal cops ignoring it, politicians, and judges, all protected under qualified immunity. And you bet your ass this summers riots is a direct result of that immunity. So if liberal cops can ignore the constitution why cant conservative cops preserve it?

 

[GOPerfect]

The courts have been clear also. You have liberal cops ignoring it, politicians, and judges, all protected qualified immunity. And you bet your ass this summers riots is a direct result of that immunity.

The Courts have been clear as mud. There are more than 3000 court cases just in regards to the 2A, the vast majority of them? The court rulings were different. You really want some uneducated cop figuring out the Bill of Rights? I know that I do not.

 

[Shadow2]

The Courts have been clear as mud. There are more than 3000 court cases just in regards to the 2A, the vast majority of them? The court rulings were different. You really want some uneducated cop figuring out the Bill of Rights? I know that I do not.

The uneducated cop is going to follow unconstitutional law anyway. What I'm saying is the educated cop should follow the constitution on the side of the road.

 

[GOPerfect]

The uneducated cop is going to follow unconstitutional law anyway. What I'm saying is the educated cop should follow the constitution on the side of the road.

Trust me, not too many of them.....

 

[spat]

I think I know where you are coming from, but, if that were the case, we would have zero use or need for the higher courts. We would in fact be ruined if everyday cops were making the decisions on the roadside.

A liberal cop sees the 2A quite differently that you and I , do you want that cop to interpret the way he sees?

This is where it becomes very difficult.

I have co-workers that believe the 2A is only for the Militia.

This could be a serious mess.

This isn't about them interpreting it the way they see it.

It's more like giving them a veto.

It's like jury nullification, but for cops.

The courts still have their full functionality too. Just because the SJW with a badge arrests you doesn't mean you can't still fight it in court the same way you do now.

 

[Robin]