Georgia on my (our) minds...

[Blimey]

I am curious if you heard/listened to the entire conversation or just pieces of it.

I listened to the 4 minute clip, not the entire thing. In my opinion most of what's come out of trump's camp recently has been inaccurate, so I no longer give it the benefit of the doubt.

 

[GOPerfect]

I listened to the 4 minute clip, not the entire thing. In my opinion most of what's come out of trump's camp recently has been inaccurate, so I no longer give it the benefit of the doubt.

I knew that prior to your answer.

Thank you for being honest.

 

[SonOfSun]

I listened to the 4 minute clip, not the entire thing. In my opinion most of what's come out of trump's camp recently has been inaccurate, so I no longer give it the benefit of the doubt.

I listened to the whole thing and a lot of it is Trump spouting unproven things as facts and then asking Brad what he is going to do about it.

Some of Trumps claims are hilarious such as he won every state (lol?) and that he doesn't care about social media. Awesome quotes such as, "This isn't social media this is Trump media." The way he talks about himself in the third person is just plain bizarre.

It's an interesting glimpse into the mind of a obsessed man.

 

[Blimey]

I listened to the whole thing and a lot of it is Trump spouting unproven things as facts and then asking Brad what he is going to do about it.

Some of Trumps claims are hilarious such as he won every state (lol?) and that he doesn't care about social media. Awesome quotes such as, "This isn't social media this is Trump media." The way he talks about himself in the third person is just plain bizarre.

It's an interesting glimpse into the mind of a obsessed man.

I recently came upon a term known as the Gish Gallop. It describes perfectly the approach used recently. It's often effective, and has been in this situation.

The Gish gallop is a term for an eristic technique in which a debater attempts to overwhelm an opponent by excessive number of arguments, without regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments.

 

[Jmac00]

EVERYONE, should keep this in mind. America just elected the two biggest losers of all time. Blimey can give them the benefit of the doubt, not me. There is literally no way, anyone will convince me America just got a royal fucking

 

[CaseHardened]

MARTIAL LAW

 

[Phazer]

I don't think they will be able to pull off the fraud they did with the Presidential Election. The denying of poll watchers and boarding up the windows are on notice now.

They've got millions of mail-in ballots that have the same level of "verification" as those in the November general election. So, once again...Republicans will appear to lead this evening and that lead will disappear once the mail-in ballots are tallied.

Game over.

 

[libertysnake]

I recently came upon a term known as the Gish Gallop. It describes perfectly the approach used recently. It's often effective, and has been in this situation.

Yeah that's exactly the approach you get with a lot of these arguments on Facebook. The "yeah, but what about..." train of horse shit, cause they don't want to debate the individual situations in which their logic will fail. Just throwing out crap after crap hoping one of them trips up the other party, rather than a legit protracted argument.

 

[SonOfSun]

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Primaries aren't general elections. I didn't vote for either of them in the primaries. I voted for them in the general.

I didn't vote for them because they were a "Dream Team". I voted for them because they were not Trump. You could have substituted in a ham sandwich and I would have voted for it over Trump. You may not be aware, but most democrats *really* dislike Trump. Not Trump is all that was needed to have people come out in droves.

 

[Jmac00]

Primaries aren't general elections. I didn't vote for either of them in the primaries. I voted for them in the general.

I didn't vote for them because they were a "Dream Team". I voted for them because they were not Trump. You could have substituted in a ham sandwich and I would have voted for it over Trump. You may not be aware, but most democrats *really* dislike Trump. Not Trump is all that was needed to have people come out in droves.

Jesus fucking Christ, I can't even respond to this crap? forget it, with people like you voting, this country is truly fucked

 

[SonOfSun]

Jesus fucking Christ, I can't even respond to this crap? forget it, with people like you voting, this country is truly fucked

I get to case my vote the way I like, you get to cast your vote the way you like. If you want (or did) vote for Trump, that's your choice and I support your ability to make that decision. Sorry if me not liking Trump upsets you, but that's the breaks.

 

[Jmac00]

I get to case my vote the way I like, you get to cast your vote the way you like. If you want (or did) vote for Trump, that's your choice and I support your ability to make that decision. Sorry if me not liking Trump upsets you, but that's the breaks.

You're Son of Sun alright, except your light is completely out, YOU COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT ~~~ look up, that fucker went right over your head, Im done with this thread

 

[SonOfSun]

You're Son of Sun alright, except your light is completely out, YOU COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT ~~~ look up, that fucker went right over your head, Im done with this thread

The big picture in your post basically alludes to them not being able to get 80 million votes because they both struggled in the primaries. Like it's a sham because they didn't win overwhelmingly right from the get go with huge enthusiasm in the primaries.

Primaries aren't general elections. I wasn't excited about voting for Biden. I was excited about voting in the general for Trump's opponent, whoever that was going to be. *LOTS and LOTS* of democrats felt the same way. Just the way it is.

 

[holdover]

I didn't vote for them because they were a "Dream Team". I voted for them because they were not Trump. You could have substituted in a ham sandwich and I would have voted for it over Trump.

Well Buddy, enjoy your ham sandwich. And remember you voted for it. Were fucked beyond all hope and We have people like you to thank for it.

 

[holdover]

I got a question , How in the fuck are they going to give vaccinations to all those undocumented people?

You voted for Open borders

You voted for more gun control

You voted for wearing masks and vaccinations by force.

You voted for higher taxes.

You voted for a moron and a whore.

You voted for China to renew its trade deal with the US

You voted for a guy who spent his entire adult life in politics and accomplished exactly zero.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Well at least some people are finally being honest and saying that they would vote for anyone as long it wasn't Trump. Nevermind how bad their policies are. It's just funny that they are on a gun forum bragging about voting for someone that will without a doubt be trying to take their guns within the first 100 days of their presidency. This is why I have to believe some of these are troll accounts. I'll be keeping tabs on certain accounts just to see how long it takes them to complain about some gun bill or law.

 

[holdover]

Of course He's a troll,

 

[FRB]

These people not only want the Trump family out of the way, they want to remove them from society, forever. because when this shit goes south on the democRATS, Don Jr will run in 2024, and the DNC KNOWS he will win ~~~~ASSUMING they don't use the Dominion Voting machines

Trump mentioned last night at the rally Ivanka not liking to run for a position but worded it like she will indeed do so. One of the two for NY Governor would be nice perhaps. Perfect people nope, but we need someone with name recognigtion to run and beat the mentally ill blood thirst for power governor Andy not too Dandy Emperor wannabe Cuomo.

 

[FRB]

Polls at 538 give a very narrow—within error—lead to both democrats.

If I had to guess I would say that dems win a seat and repubs win a seat, which will be enough for repubs to keep the senate. But the projections are so close that either of the other two options are entirely possible.

Projections? Hmmmmm impossible to be acculturate these days. I give ZERO credence to any poll. The inner city machine has been hard at work harvesting votes for the 2 idiots running on the dirty D line, how many homeless people have the same address?

If only Collins did not run last time, freedom would not be in this mess. I like Collins much, but he & Loefler did America no favor with one of them not dropping out the first time.

 

[FRB]

Most republicans don’t believe the election was fraudulent anyway. Proof: they will turnout in droves for GA which nobody would do if they believed the election is rigged.

Anyone who does not believe this election was fraudulent is a fool and deserves to not have freedom! How many thousands of dead people voted? How many thousands of people had someone else send their votes in? HOGWASH & POPPYCOCK sir!

 

[FRB]

I listened to the 4 minute clip, not the entire thing. In my opinion most of what's come out of trump's camp recently has been inaccurate, so I no longer give it the benefit of the doubt.

There you go, all of what you say on this issue going forward gets filed in the g bin.... G for garbage... "In your opinion" what's come out eh? With your 4 minute clip procedure on that too?

 

[SonOfSun]

How many thousands of dead people voted?

I don't know. You tell me, include proof for each count.

How many thousands of people had someone else send their votes in?

I don't know. You tell me, include proof for each count.

 

[SonOfSun]

Trump mentioned last night at the rally Ivanka not liking to run for a position but worded it like she will indeed do so. One of the two for NY Governor would be nice perhaps. Perfect people nope, but we need someone with name recognigtion to run and beat the mentally ill blood thirst for power governor Andy not too Dandy Emperor wannabe Cuomo.

A Trump running for NY Gov. is the only thing that would make me consider voting for Cuomo.

 

[SonOfSun]

Well at least some people are finally being honest and saying that they would vote for anyone as long it wasn't Trump. Nevermind how bad their policies are. It's just funny that they are on a gun forum bragging about voting for someone that will without a doubt be trying to take their guns within the first 100 days of their presidency. This is why I have to believe some of these are troll accounts. I'll be keeping tabs on certain accounts just to see how long it takes them to complain about some gun bill or law.

I said a long time ago (even before the election) that I was voting for "not Trump".

I don't like Biden's policies on guns one single bit. However, being president isn't a one issue job. I like Biden significantly more on other issues than Trump. On some issues I like Trump's policies more than Biden's - it depends on the issue really. All I can realistically do is put both candidates on a scale and determine which one I think will be less crappy (because both Trump and Biden suck). In this election there are so many negatives for Trump, that I couldn't see myself voting for him in any instance. Hearing his behavior with the Georgia call reaffirms my opinion.

 

[kev74]

Anyone who does not believe this election was fraudulent is a fool and deserves to not have freedom! How many thousands of dead people voted? How many thousands of people had someone else send their votes in? HOGWASH & POPPYCOCK sir!

There were more votes counted than people who voted. I can see no way that happens without fraud.

 

[REF]

I get to case my vote the way I like, you get to cast your vote the way you like. If you want (or did) vote for Trump, that's your choice and I support your ability to make that decision. Sorry if me not liking Trump upsets you, but that's the breaks.

You do realize that you voted for a guy that supports probably, most things you’re against , at least I would think you’re against if you’re on here, like open borders, defunded police, more useless gun control, bail reform, etc.... other than a candidate that has policies more in line to what most rational Americans are in support of........ just because you don’t like the man....... I have no words

 

[REF]

I apologize if my assumptions are not correct

 

[Blimey]

Anyone who does not believe this election was fraudulent is a fool and deserves to not have freedom! How many thousands of dead people voted? How many thousands of people had someone else send their votes in? HOGWASH & POPPYCOCK sir!

Bit of a strawman here. [probably] Nobody believes the election was "not fraudulent", in that nobody believes there was *no* fraud at all. This is just based on simple odds. Although fraud has unequivocally not been proven in court (indisputable fact), the likelihood of there being some degree of fraud somewhere seems so high it's incredible to believe there isn't some.

As to whether there was enough fraud to make Biden win...well refer back to the last part. So far absent any fraud proven at all it's obviously a great stretch to suppose that in light of no fraud yet proven whatsoever that there is despite that so much fraud that biden actually did win.

Again I'll refer you to the gish gallop, because i've seen it used many times recently. "So many accusations of fraud", but it really harkens back to the essential truth that no matter how many times a lie is repeated it remains a lie.

Donald Trump was never going to accept the election results if he lost

Trump has no credibility when he claims the election was stolen — because he always accuses opponents of cheating

www.salon.com

During the 2016 Republican presidential primaries, after he lost the Iowa caucuses to Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, he claimed that he wasn't actually defeated in the Hawkeye State because Cruz "stole it." He also argued that Cruz's supposed "fraud" was so egregious that "either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified." Although he moved on from his claims about Cruz after he ultimately won the GOP nomination, Trump accused Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton of doing dishonest things "at many polling places" without providing any evidence. He repeatedly insisted that the election was "rigged" against him

Seeing a pattern?

 

[SonOfSun]

You do realize that you voted for a guy that supports probably, most things you’re against , at least I would think you’re against if you’re on here, like open borders, defunded police, more useless gun control, bail reform, etc.... other than a candidate that has policies more in line to what most rational Americans are in support of........ just because you don’t like the man....... I have no words

Not in favor of open borders at all but Trump's wall is stupid. Other solutions are better and more effective, a wall is a waste of taxpayer money.

Not in favor of defunding the police, I am in favor of removing qualified immunity and ending no-knock warrants.

Gun control bills infringe on rights and don't accomplish anything positive, so I disagree with them.

Bail Reform - I don't think cash bail should exist, however that doesn't mean I think everyone should just go free. If it's a major crime or the court thinks you will flee, then it should be no bail at all. If we're going to let people go out on bail and are trusting enough that they will return for trial then there should be no money involved.

 

[Bigfoot]

DO. NOT. FEED. THE. TROLL ... PERIOD.

Completely ignore him.