Germany takes over some Russian oil refiners to secure supply

[Saltwater60]

Wow! Germany at it agin. What’s next rounding up Jews? This is wrong. I don’t really support Russia in any way but this is wrong as is how the countries took the property of Russia private citizens for no good reasons.

Germany takes control of Russian-owned oil refineries

The German government has seized control of three Russian-owned oil refineries to secure supplies of gasoline, diesel and aviation fuel.

amp.cnn.com

 

[togmaster]

This may be news to some but the world still runs on fossil fuels. A disruption to a nation's fuel supply is a big deal. They were stupid to let Russia control it in the first place but i can see the reasoning for taking it back.

 

[SonOfSun]

Wow! Germany at it agin. What’s next rounding up Jews? This is wrong. I don’t really support Russia in any way but this is wrong as is how the countries took the property of Russia private citizens for no good reasons.

Germany takes control of Russian-owned oil refineries

The German government has seized control of three Russian-owned oil refineries to secure supplies of gasoline, diesel and aviation fuel.

amp.cnn.com

This is just the pot calling the kettle black.

Putin signs law allowing seizure of foreign planes for domestic flights

Don't start shit if you are going to cry when people retaliate against you. Russia and Putin can suck my cock.

 

[Apeman]

I don't think I'm ok with this. Our idiotic leaders have stuck our noses in other countries business before. How would we feel if another country took over our stuff? Granted the Russian government owns almost everything and not the people but those businesses don't deserve to be taken over by Germany.

 

[Mosinitis]

This is just the pot calling the kettle black.

Putin signs law allowing seizure of foreign planes for domestic flights

Don't start shit if you are going to cry when people retaliate against you. Russia and Putin can suck my cock.

Pot and kettle?????? This article is from CNN. Russians don't give a fuck. Their economy is gaining.
This shit was started by U.S. government with Orange Revolution and later Maidan coup. People who believe in double standards can suck Putin's dick.

 

[Saltwater60]

This is just the pot calling the kettle black.

Putin signs law allowing seizure of foreign planes for domestic flights

Don't start shit if you are going to cry when people retaliate against you. Russia and Putin can suck my cock.

We started it by going after then oligarchs asserts. I do t support anyone doing this, but if we want to call ourselves a democracy and better than dictators why are we acting like them? By we it’s the USA and the UK.

 

[Saltwater60]

Now Biden says don’t use nuclear weapons. Putin listened so well last time, let’s see how this goes.

President Biden warns Vladimir Putin not to use nuclear weapons: "Don't. Don't. Don't."

President Biden tells Scott Pelley that if Russia uses chemical or tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine, "they'll become more of a pariah in the world than they ever have been. And depending on the extent of what they do will determine what response would occur."

www.cbsnews.com

 

[livingston]

Now Biden says don’t use nuclear weapons. Putin listened so well last time, let’s see how this goes.

President Biden warns Vladimir Putin not to use nuclear weapons: "Don't. Don't. Don't."

President Biden tells Scott Pelley that if Russia uses chemical or tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine, "they'll become more of a pariah in the world than they ever have been. And depending on the extent of what they do will determine what response would occur."

www.cbsnews.com

"jill where are those dam codes " ?

 

[Beerman]

"jill where are those dam codes " ?

Gonna release some water for the rafting companies?

 

[Saltwater60]

Russia says Germany 'crossed' red line in arms supply to Ukraine | Fox News

Germany backtracks stern stance on military vehicles to Ukraine and send infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers

www.foxnews.com

More tensions.

 

[livingston]

This may be news to some but the world still runs on fossil fuels. A disruption to a nation's fuel supply is a big deal. They were stupid to let Russia control it in the first place but i can see the reasoning for taking it back.

 

[spat]

Wow! Germany at it agin. What’s next rounding up Jews? This is wrong. I don’t really support Russia in any way but this is wrong as is how the countries took the property of Russia private citizens for no good reasons.

Germany takes control of Russian-owned oil refineries

The German government has seized control of three Russian-owned oil refineries to secure supplies of gasoline, diesel and aviation fuel.

amp.cnn.com

Depends.

Are they owned by the Russian government, or Russian citizens.

Makes a big difference.

 

[GOPerfect]

This is just the pot calling the kettle black.

Putin signs law allowing seizure of foreign planes for domestic flights

Don't start shit if you are going to cry when people retaliate against you. Russia and Putin can suck my cock.

You want another man to perform oral sex on you? That is kind of weird.

 

[Saltwater60]

Uh oh

Russian State TV Tells Putin to Finalize Plans for Nuclear Strike on NATO

"I propose that a nuclear planning ground be set up under the Security Council," Igor Korotchenko said on Russia's state-run TV Channel 1.

www.newsweek.com

 

[GOPerfect]

This very well may be an act of war by The Germans upon the Russians.

 

[Grimscale]

The good news is nuclear war would solve two of the issues with climate change.

1) reduce the population considerably.
2) eliminate global warming in favor of nuclear winter.

I'm so glad Dementia Joe is looking out for us.

 

[Acer-m14]

did Germany really take over the oil rigs or did Russia and Germany work out a loop hole in slow Joes sanctions ..

its not Russia oil now .. its German Oil .. LOL ..

 

[Jmac00]

This very well may be an act of war by The Germans upon the Russians.

exactly what I was thinking, this shit is going to get out of control. If russia responds with violence, the shit storm will be world wide crisis. the world economies are about to go in the shiter.

We need a hard core, world class wheeler dealer, NOW. to avoid WWIII

 

[livingston]

did Germany really take over the oil rigs or did Russia and Germany work out a loop hole in slow Joes sanctions ..

its not Russia oil now .. its German Oil .. LOL ..

From the comments section of the conservative treehouse.
Leo D
September 17, 2022 1:06 am


That Olaf, he be big smart fella…

The economy ministry said it was putting a unit of Russian oil firm Rosneft (ROSN.MM) under the trusteeship of the industry regulator and taking over the business’ Schwedt refinery, which supplies 90% of Berlin’s fuel…


The Schwedt refinery has posed a dilemma for Berlin for several weeks, as it has received all of its crude from Russia, but Germany is resolved to eliminate imports of oil from Russia by the end of the year under European Union sanctions.


Taking over Schwedt, however, risks retaliatory measures from Moscow. Scholz said Germany had gamed out a possible sudden stop in crude supplies from Russia, adding: “That is why we are prepared.”


A policy document released by Berlin on Friday showed that it is in talks with the government of Kazakhstan on securing oil deliveries for Schwedt.

So, Olaf decides to nationalize the Russian refinery in Germany that supplies 90% of Berlin’s fuel…the same refinery that uses Russian crude oil as its only feedstock…and thinks he can just “swap it out” for Kazakhstany crude.
Well, refineries are ‘tuned’ to the specific chemistry of the feedstock crude. Changing the feedstock requires a retuning of the refinery…a process that could take…wait for it…
YEARS
So Olaf is going to take offline the refinery that supplies 90% of Berlin’s fuel…for maybe years…
Heap big smart fella, that Olaf

Panicked Germany Seizes Russian Energy Company Rosneft, Uses National Trusteeship to Control Oil Refinery - The Current Economic Outlook of Europe, Full State Control of Critical Energy Production - The Last Refuge

Welcome to the new “democratic norms” in the industrialized west as Germany seizes the private assets of Russian owned energy company Rosneft; because oil refining is critical to fuel prices and German has just realized their vulnerability. Within this new Build Back Better system, driven by the...

theconservativetreehouse.com

 

[Michael]

Depends.

Are they owned by the Russian government, or Russian citizens.

Makes a big difference.

Rosneft is owned by the Russian govt. Rosneft - Wikipedia

It also looks like they put the cart before the horse as well. The oil supply to the refineries comes in via pipeline from Russia. Now they need to figure out a source of crude oil. Good luck with that one.

 

[Jchrisls]

I wonder who warned Europe about the potential national security risks being too dependent on Russian Oil and Gas exports years ago? Hmmm...
Could they not see that beyond the economic gains Russia would net that the secondary national security threat was most likely baked in to the thought process for Russias benefit? Putin isn't stupid, I guess most of Europe is. Additionally, this is a PRIME example of moving too quickly towards a green energy solution without deep thought on the potential consequences and contingencies. Europe ran head first into the conversion to green energy vastly accelerating thier programs to dump fossil fuel ASAP, without regard to its own potential threat to its existence. Cold kills FAR more people annually than heat, and now they face those consequences.

Poor policy at its finest, and potential zenith.

 

[livingston]

Rosneft is owned by the Russian govt. Rosneft - Wikipedia

It also looks like they put the cart before the horse as well. The oil supply to the refineries comes in via pipeline from Russia. Now they need to figure out a source of crude oil. Good luck with that one.

Taking over Schwedt, however, risks retaliatory measures from Moscow. Scholz said Germany had gamed out a possible sudden stop in crude supplies from Russia, adding: "That is why we are prepared."

A policy document released by Berlin on Friday showed that it is in talks with the government of Kazakhstan on securing oil deliveries for Schwedt.

Poland said earlier this year that ending Russian ownership of the refinery was a condition for potentially supplying it with seaborne oil via a terminal in Gdansk and via Polish pipelines to replace Russian crude.

Germany takes control of Russian-owned refinery amid energy crisis

Germany took control of a major Russian-owned oil refinery on Friday, risking retaliation from Moscow as Berlin strives to shore up energy supplies and meet its European Union commitment to eliminate Russian oil imports by the end of the year.

www.reuters.com

 

[Acer-m14]

all this just made me think of Brazil .. how is there sugar cane fuel doing .. haven't seen them in the news in a long ass time ..

 

[Saltwater60]

From the comments section of the conservative treehouse.
Leo D
September 17, 2022 1:06 am


That Olaf, he be big smart fella…

So, Olaf decides to nationalize the Russian refinery in Germany that supplies 90% of Berlin’s fuel…the same refinery that uses Russian crude oil as its only feedstock…and thinks he can just “swap it out” for Kazakhstany crude.
Well, refineries are ‘tuned’ to the specific chemistry of the feedstock crude. Changing the feedstock requires a retuning of the refinery…a process that could take…wait for it…
YEARS
So Olaf is going to take offline the refinery that supplies 90% of Berlin’s fuel…for maybe years…
Heap big smart fella, that Olaf

Panicked Germany Seizes Russian Energy Company Rosneft, Uses National Trusteeship to Control Oil Refinery - The Current Economic Outlook of Europe, Full State Control of Critical Energy Production - The Last Refuge

Welcome to the new “democratic norms” in the industrialized west as Germany seizes the private assets of Russian owned energy company Rosneft; because oil refining is critical to fuel prices and German has just realized their vulnerability. Within this new Build Back Better system, driven by the...

theconservativetreehouse.com

Yes and it’s a great time to do this with winter coming right? This stinks of something planned to fuck us all and gain more control. Oh wait now you need the government to heat your home with electricity. IMO this is a way to push more heat pumps and all that bullshit that comes with it.

 

[Saltwater60]

I wonder who warned Europe about the potential national security risks being too dependent on Russian Oil and Gas exports years ago? Hmmm...
Could they not see that beyond the economic gains Russia would net that the secondary national security threat was most likely baked in to the thought process for Russias benefit? Putin isn't stupid, I guess most of Europe is. Additionally, this is a PRIME example of moving too quickly towards a green energy solution without deep thought on the potential consequences and contingencies. Europe ran head first into the conversion to green energy vastly accelerating thier programs to dump fossil fuel ASAP, without regard to its own potential threat to its existence. Cold kills FAR more people annually than heat, and now they face those consequences.

Poor policy at its finest, and potential zenith.

But it was cheaper and got me elected for years. That’s how these morons think. They care little for long term because most people don’t think long term or can’t see it. We all saw the economic storm coming from what Biden has done with continued supply/injection of government money into the economy. Apparently he has t learned because he just spent more money in infrastructure, student loan forgiveness, and the largest climate bill in the worlds history(his words).
I’m sure when things settle down and Russian oil is back flowing cheaper the Germans will say how great it is for the people of Germany and to help the Russians out.

 

[livingston]

all this just made me think of Brazil .. how is there sugar cane fuel doing .. haven't seen them in the news in a long ass time ..

South American Drought Impacts 50% of World’s Soybean Supply​

https://www.agweb.com/markets/world-markets/south-american-drought-impacts-50-worlds-soybean-supply

 

[livingston]

But it was cheaper and got me elected for years. That’s how these morons think. They care little for long term because most people don’t think long term or can’t see it. We all saw the economic storm coming from what Biden has done with continued supply/injection of government money into the economy. Apparently he has t learned because he just spent more money in infrastructure, student loan forgiveness, and the largest climate bill in the worlds history(his words).
I’m sure when things settle down and Russian oil is back flowing cheaper the Germans will say how great it is for the people of Germany and to help the Russians out.

I am afraid we have not seen the economic storm yet ... Just paying on the new debt will be devastating ... Build back better bills....

 

[Saltwater60]

I am afraid we have not seen the economic storm yet ... Just paying on the new debt will be devastating ... Build back better bills....

You’re correct it’s just starting out.