Gillibrand backs single-payer

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Add another major 2020 Democratic player to the list of supporters of single-payer health insurance: Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand.
"Yes," the New York senator does support single-payer, her senior adviser Glen Caplin told me.
Gillibrand first seemed to endorse the idea on the steps outside the Capitol this week, in a Facebook Live hosted by New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker. "Health care should be a right, it should never be a privilege. We should have Medicare for all in this country," she said.
However, Gillibrand in the past hasn't used the phrase "Medicare for all" as a substitute for "single-payer" the same way Bernie Sanders does. Instead, as Caplin pointed out, "since she first ran for Congress in 2006 in a red district, Kirsten has been advocating for 'Medicare for all' where anyone can buy into Medicare for a price they can afford" — that is, by paying a fixed percentage of their income.
That all begged the follow-up: Does Gillibrand support single-payer? Her senior adviser's answer — "yes" — to that question is a major development for Gillibrand. It positions her with Sanders, progressive activists, and as of this week, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who told The Wall Street Journal that on health care, "now it's time for the next step. And the next step is single-payer." Per the Pew Research Center, 52% of Democrats support single-payer.
Democrats generally want to set aside the topic of single-payer while they are fighting President Donald Trump's effort to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. But for the 2020 Democratic presidential race, embracing it increasingly seems to be the price of admission into the upper tier.

#2020Vision: Gillibrand backs single-payer ... Booker's Facebook Live ... Biden the lifeguard ... Kander goes to New Hampshire - CNNPolitics.com
 
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Real health care reform will begin when they fix malpractice insurance, frivolous lawsuits and litigation financial responsibility. Get the bean counters and non-medical CEOs off the hospital management boards. Patients also have to take responsibility for their health.
 
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Yes just what we need ineffective, inefficient , and controlling, government run healthcare financed with money we don't have.

If there is one certainty it's that anything government touches they ruin and make more expensive and complicated.

Oh, and anyone who thinks single payer is great needs to read how awesome England's health care system works
https://www.google.com/amp/www.tele...ed-potentially-life-saving-treatment-nhs/amp/
 
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Gillibrand supports single payer b/c she and the Dems are in the minority right now, the minute they become the majority, they, JUST LIKE the Republicans, and the Democrats-(during the Obama-care debate), will get a golden enema from the insurance companies, big pharma, the hospital lobby, and the AMA then quickly decide, "single payer will not work."

Here is what does not work, health insurance, any time you add an artificial subsidy into the market place, the prices go to the moon.

Look at the last bill you got for the tiny fender-bender from a garage that you trust, $3.5K for what should be $500 of bodywork, but hey the insurance company pays and everyone looks the other way....................WHERE IS THE FREE MARKET????????????????????
 
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""Health care should be a right, it should never be a privilege." Miss .. then whats your deal with the 2A .. its a right .. you going to regulate healthcare with the same gun laws ?? if yes then i'll sign up other wise FUOFF ... if you want to back something .. back up into a open fire hydrant , your brain needs a cleansing ..
 
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She pays for her insurance?

I wonder...

But yeah, sure, everyone else can pay for crap coverage! Pay through the ass to cover those who don't pay, cover the ridiculously uncontrolled insurance industry so they can please the corporate bottom line of making profit off of people's health!

But I'm sure she considers this all each month when she gets her health insurance bill...
 
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1911guy said:
Perhaps. But typical of Dems. Obama care was designed to fail to make way for single payer crap.
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Exactly my thoughts. That's the plan and Hilary was to push it through except they lost control of all branches of the gov. I'm not so sure though that I trust the republicans much more to not do a single payer plan. Just so you all know we are very close to having a single payer healthcare plan in NYs. We are one vote away from it.
 
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All of the above is true but all the "tort reform", management reform etc is not going to make medical care less expensive. Also the Republican's job on "health ins. reform" is mission impossible. If your goal is most people covered, pre-existing covered and cheap insurance and market based competition, it ain't going to happen, period. Insurance companies want to insure events that won't happen. You can't blame them, they are in business for a profit, not to provide welfare. Therefore old people, people with pre-existing conditions, people with family history of expensive deceases or who have the wrong results on DNA tests won't get coverage. Only young, rich and healthy with the right DNA will get coverage.

So if we have single payer, everyone needs to be covered by the system, everyone. All govt employees, from DMV clerk to president, including Congress, who exempted themselves for Obama Care. Employers don't provide med insurance, just pay more taxes instead. No exceptions except maybe active duty military. Can't expect the local medicare clinic to send a MASH unit overseas. Won't need VA med. benefits. Just close it down. This is not going to happen either. The health insurance companies, big pharma etc make way too much money to let this happen. If everyone comes under the plain, then the plain decides who get paid what and who gets care and how much. The gov't extends its already over-reaching control.

We already have about 50% gov't paid medical. Medicare, Medicaid, State, Local and Federal gov't employees, subsidies for families who have more children than they can afford, VA medical for veterans, public hospitals who have to take in anyone, insurance or not, the list goes on and on. We are paying for all of them, that is why we can't afford our own medical insurance.

So the Republicans are falling into the democrat's trap. If they don't pass anything, Obama Care Completely fails, then people will be screaming and before you know it you will have single payer for the chumps (us) but the rest will continue as before. We get to pay for the first class care for the privileged gov't employees and we get to pay for our scraps. The very rich can take care of themselves, no matter what happens.
 
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