Government Shutdown
- Thread starter Bigfoot
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I seem to remember reading one of the obscure provision in either the CCIA or the bullshit they fucked Dealers with on checks: If the system wasn't available, that checks could be forgone...thinking on it, it was likely the ammunition Check, but might be something in the firearms BGC provisions as well.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Has anyone priced the shutdown? Maybe a way to save this country is for the government to only operate one week a month. I haven’t noticed anything and I flew.wondering if they stay shutdown if they can still collect taxes.
Perhaps DOGE will be able to review the all the Services/Administrations/Departments/Agencies/etc. shut down, determine their relevance and impact then determine if they should remain open....sort of like what the BRAC process that closed a LOT of Military Bases.
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C3D
.338 Win Mag
Well the Republicans are on the cusp of victory in this shutdown nonsense. There are not many SNAP recipients in the Republican voter base.
nypost.com
USDA announces no federal SNAP benefits will be delivered over government shutdown, blames Democrats
“Bottom line, the well has run dry,” the USDA said. “At this time, there will be no benefits issued November 01. We are approaching an inflection point for Senate Democrats.”
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Shadow rider
6.5 Creedmoor
When they cave (and they will), Chuck U Shumer will save face by throwing under the bus those that he "allowed" to cross the proverbial line in the sand. That way he will have a fighting chance at keeping his "job".
BTW... It has been bugging the shit out of me (or was that just the cleanse before my recent colonoscopy?)…Why the fug is congress still collecting a paycheck? I had to look it up! Turns out it's in the Constitution (kind of)…
Article I, Section 6 of the Constitution states: "The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States." This one says nothing about frequency or timing of compensation, only that they will be comped.
And then there is the 27th Amendment (ratified 1992)… "No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened." This one was supposed to prevent congress from giving themselves a raise, and also interpreted to mean no cut in pay either.
I call BS on both interpretations! Dock their pay and fine them as if they were gov't contractors late on a contract, maybe $1000/day for each member!
BTW... It has been bugging the shit out of me (or was that just the cleanse before my recent colonoscopy?)…Why the fug is congress still collecting a paycheck? I had to look it up! Turns out it's in the Constitution (kind of)…
Article I, Section 6 of the Constitution states: "The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States." This one says nothing about frequency or timing of compensation, only that they will be comped.
And then there is the 27th Amendment (ratified 1992)… "No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened." This one was supposed to prevent congress from giving themselves a raise, and also interpreted to mean no cut in pay either.
I call BS on both interpretations! Dock their pay and fine them as if they were gov't contractors late on a contract, maybe $1000/day for each member!
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
FWIW, polls are showing that President Trump's approval numbers are increasing.
The majority of people are blaming the Democrats for this shutdown.
Even CNN had to admit to those facts. lol
The majority of people are blaming the Democrats for this shutdown.
Even CNN had to admit to those facts. lol
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
Ran into my first shutdown issue. I have environmental monitoring regulated by the EPA. A potential customer called up all pissy pants because they were doing their due diligence looking into the company before hand and found 3 EPA violations, some for dates that aren't even due yet.
This is across the board, I sent screen shots of the EPA site showing other prominent businesses and local government all with the same violations which smoothed things over.
This is across the board, I sent screen shots of the EPA site showing other prominent businesses and local government all with the same violations which smoothed things over.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
Did they actually give Barney any bullets for his gun?
WTF is it talking about? And who the F votes this in office?
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Bigfoot
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HARTFORD, Conn. (WTNH) — Connecticut and dozens of other states filed a lawsuit against Donald Trump’s administration over its decision not to use funding to pay for food aid during the government shutdown.
Attorney General William Tong said in a press conference Tuesday that Connecticut, alongside 21 other states and three Democratic governors, are suing over “willfully and intentionally making people go hungry.”
Attorney General William Tong said in a press conference Tuesday that Connecticut, alongside 21 other states and three Democratic governors, are suing over “willfully and intentionally making people go hungry.”
Not to be dismissive, and in it's face withholding Pay for Congress sounds like a good idea, it's merely a token gesture: unless this is you first term and you're "broke" like AOC claimed when she went to Washington, you've got million(s) in the Bank and investments and if I were faced with not getting a Paycheck that I needed, I'd call my investment manager and have $10K transferred to our Bank account (assuming there wasn't enough in there to start with) The idea of people in High Government Office being paid well is to prevent economical hardships from being exploited by outside forces...too bad that doesn't work for fine looking pussy supplied by the Chinese see Eric Swalwell.
Careful, this will get shut down like the food stamp thread.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
Black people use food stamps.
White people use food stamps.
People in every state use food stamps.
Just disproportionately.
White people use food stamps.
People in every state use food stamps.
Just disproportionately.
VERY!! disproportionately
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
That thread was going very well. Lots of accurate info and valid concerns shared by everyone. Best thread in a while, IMO.
As per Grok....
Shutting down EBT forever would unleash immediate turmoil in U.S. cities, where roughly 42 million SNAP users—concentrated in urban poor areas like parts of Chicago or Baltimore—lose food access overnight.
Grocery runs turn to looting, crime surges as desperation mounts, and hospitals overload with malnutrition cases, potentially igniting widespread riots in high-dependency zones exceeding 20% participation.
Long-term, cities depopulate as residents flee for rural self-reliance or black markets, crippling local economies but eroding welfare traps and spurring private innovation or charity to fill voids.
Rural enclaves in Utah (SNAP participation 4.8%, per USDA data), Wyoming, and North Dakota (6.2%) offer prime safety due to sparse densities under 10/sq mi and robust farming economies fostering self-reliance.
Demographics show high workforce engagement (80%+), low poverty (under 10%), and minimal urban dependency, buffering against riots. Suburbs near Boise, ID, or Cheyenne, WY, balance access with isolation, prioritizing armed homesteads over dense welfare hubs.
Shutting down EBT forever would unleash immediate turmoil in U.S. cities, where roughly 42 million SNAP users—concentrated in urban poor areas like parts of Chicago or Baltimore—lose food access overnight.
Grocery runs turn to looting, crime surges as desperation mounts, and hospitals overload with malnutrition cases, potentially igniting widespread riots in high-dependency zones exceeding 20% participation.
Long-term, cities depopulate as residents flee for rural self-reliance or black markets, crippling local economies but eroding welfare traps and spurring private innovation or charity to fill voids.
Rural enclaves in Utah (SNAP participation 4.8%, per USDA data), Wyoming, and North Dakota (6.2%) offer prime safety due to sparse densities under 10/sq mi and robust farming economies fostering self-reliance.
Demographics show high workforce engagement (80%+), low poverty (under 10%), and minimal urban dependency, buffering against riots. Suburbs near Boise, ID, or Cheyenne, WY, balance access with isolation, prioritizing armed homesteads over dense welfare hubs.
Ending SNAP would likely reduce Type II diabetes prevalence long-term by curbing access to cheap, processed carbs and sugars that exacerbate obesity—SNAP users show 44% obesity rates versus 38% for eligible non-users. Caloric restriction from lost benefits could spur weight loss and better insulin sensitivity, countering the program's ties to poor dietary choices. Short-term spikes in complications loom for current patients due to food insecurity, but self-reliance and private innovations might drive healthier national trends overall.
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Americans Blow the Whistle on Massive SNAP EBT Fraud
More citizens are exposing the truth about the SNAP Food Stamp program, revealing widespread fraud across major cities. One man explained how recipients sell thousands in food stamps for quick cash—often getting $4,000 in benefits and trading them for $1,000 at local delis or corner stores. He says this practice is “happening everywhere,” yet few will admit it. The Biden-era welfare system is being abused on a massive scale while hardworking Americans foot the bill.
Americans Blow the Whistle on Massive SNAP EBT Fraud
More citizens are exposing the truth about the SNAP Food Stamp program, revealing widespread fraud across major cities. One man explained how recipients sell thousands in food stamps for quick cash—often getting $4,000 in benefits and trading them for $1,000 at local delis or corner stores. He says this practice is “happening everywhere,” yet few will admit it. The Biden-era welfare system is being abused on a massive scale while hardworking Americans foot the bill.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
I knew of stores in NY that will ring up a fake EBT transaction and give the cardholder half the amount back in cash. Anyone only getting 25% back needs to find a better Bodega.
BREAKING: BLM has announced they'll help provide food for the black community in light of SNAP budget cuts.
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Just kidding. They won't do anything for them. As usual.
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Just kidding. They won't do anything for them. As usual.
gun_slinger_boy
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A good start to ameliorating the food stamp dilemma is removing a ton of the things that can be bought with them. Soda, chips, candy etc shouldn't be allowed.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
I'm going to NY soon. It would totally be worth going out of my way if I could take a selfie in front of the former east wing of the white house. That would make it the most memorable government shutdown of my lifetime.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
Correction: The ONLY memorable government shutdown of my lifetime.
JunkBoxFull
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So i guess there was no votes today to open up the socialist side of the government SNAPPER programs ?