Gun free zone

[Kzinti]

Just a question for someone with more smarts than me. What good is a CCW permit do if you can't carry where you want because of GFZ popping up?

 

[spat]

Just a question for someone with more smarts than me. What good is a CCW permit do if you can't carry where you want because of GFZ popping up?

Because they aren't everywhere ?

Most gun free zones also ban knives. That doesn't mean pocket knives are useless.

Also, at least in NY, most "gun free zones" are just requests that hold no force of law, so stay armed and carry on. The main exceptions being government buildings, airports, and schools.

 

[Deplorable Me]

With the exception of government buildings, it allows a legal out by the mall, movie theater, restaurant in the event a dumb-ass does something stupid with their CCW appliance. There are some sloppy yahoo cowboy CCW carriers out there. The lesson is to be cautious , alert and present when you're carrying.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

GFZ except for Govt Bldgs are just "Suggestions"...... I dont always take the suggestions??!!

 

[camper4lyfe]

concealed is concealed

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Because they aren't everywhere ?

Most gun free zones also ban knives. That doesn't mean pocket knives are useless.

Also, at least in NY, most "gun free zones" are just requests that hold no force of law, so stay armed and carry on. The main exceptions being government buildings, airports, and schools.

This.


With a license you can carry pretty much anywhere except for gvt. Buildings (schools, courts, post office, etc..)

So that leaves 98% of places you go to as places you can legally carry.

The dreaded "no guns allowed" sign is the private property owner giving rules for their establishment. It's not law. If however you are on private property (for example, Chucky cheese because they have these signs) and they (the private property owner with no guns allowed sign) notice you are carrying expect to be asked to leave. If they ask you to leave you must immediately comply or you can be charged with trespassing, and perhaps harassment or menacing depending on what story they tell the cop and what type of mood the responding cop is in.

 

[Cooolone]

I refuse to aquiesce to their request!

There... Done!

 

[meketrefe]

Just a question for someone with more smarts than me. What good is a CCW permit do if you can't carry where you want because of GFZ popping up?

In airports inside security and courthouses inside a secured perimeter there should not be need for defensive action at least in theory.
But all other pretending gun free zones are nothing but the antigun's version of modern human hunting fields where any lunatics or criminals can go and start murdering people w/o being challenged.
In other words, pretending feel-good gun free zones are a stupid idea and those places should be hold liable.
Everyone with a brain understands how stupid this is. Simple logic.

 

[spat]

In airports inside security and courthouses inside a secured perimeter there should not be need for defensive action at least in theory.
But all other pretending gun free zones are nothing but the antigun's version of modern human hunting fields where any lunatics or criminals can go and start murdering people w/o being challenged.
In other words, pretending feel-good gun free zones are a stupid idea and those places should be hold liable.
Everyone with a brain understands how stupid this is. Simple logic.

Even the airports and other secure areas haven't "solved" the problem.

They just moved the victim zone to the line before the metal detectors.

I am honestly very surprised that there hasn't been a terrorist attack on the lines waiting to get into an airport secure area.

I'm also surprised there hasn't been an incident where they just spread some nitrate fertilizer covertly in the unsecured area or parking lot or ventilation system or something and then let the chaos ensue as every person in line tests positive for it.

 

[Twogunwilly]

I only raise free ranging guns, anything else is cruel.

 

[Chevusa]

If there's a gun free zone, and I'm in it - then it's no longer a gun free zone.

 

[Acer-m14]

The dreaded "no guns allowed" sign is the private property owner giving rules for their establishment. It's not law. If however you are on private property (for example, Chucky cheese because they have these signs) and they (the private property owner with no guns allowed sign) notice you are carrying expect to be asked to leave. If they ask you to leave you must immediately comply or you can be charged with trespassing, and perhaps harassment or menacing depending on what story they tell the cop and what type of mood the responding cop is in.

few yrs ago was at the bounce house in rochester for a kids 4yr olds B-day .. .. finally found the gun free zone sticker on the door .. after 4 passes in and out of the place ...

sticker was placed at the very bottom of the door .. WTF really .. fk off ..

 

[Cleck]

This.


With a license you can carry pretty much anywhere except for gvt. Buildings (schools, courts, post office, etc..)

So that leaves 98% of places you go to as places you can legally carry.

The dreaded "no guns allowed" sign is the private property owner giving rules for their establishment. It's not law. If however you are on private property (for example, Chucky cheese because they have these signs) and they (the private property owner with no guns allowed sign) notice you are carrying expect to be asked to leave. If they ask you to leave you must immediately comply or you can be charged with trespassing, and perhaps harassment or menacing depending on what story they tell the cop and what type of mood the responding cop is in.

That's kinda how I treat it. I definitely wouldn't carry in a school zone more so than the other gfz's. The movie theater I go to has a no firearms/guns permitted sign at the bottom of the door, but it's not law just their rule, so I make sure to remain concealed. They haven't started wanding me down yet, so I'll keep carrying until they do.

 

[soylentBlue]

Sign? What sign? I didn't notice it.