Gun Talks Snag on Tricky Question: What Counts as a Boyfriend?

[livingston]

Gun Talks Snag on Tricky Question: What Counts as a Boyfriend?​

WASHINGTON — Among the sticking points standing in the way of a final deal on what could be the first significant bipartisan gun safety legislation in decades is an age-old question: How do you define a boyfriend?

The question may sound frivolous, but for a small group of Republicans and Democrats who are pressing to translate a hard-won compromise on guns into legislation that can draw 60 votes in the Senate, it is vital. And for millions of women who have been threatened with a firearm by an intimate partner, it is deadly serious.
At issue is a provision in the proposed agreement that would make it more difficult for domestic abusers to obtain guns.

Current law bars people convicted of domestic violence or subject to a domestic violence restraining order from being able to buy a gun, but it applies only if they have been married to or lived with the victim, or had a child with them. Lawmakers have worked unsuccessfully for years to close what has come to be known as the “boyfriend loophole” by expanding the law to include other intimate partners. Taking such a step is seen as one of the more publicly popular and effective ways to reduce gun violence.

But first, lawmakers must agree on what exactly makes someone an intimate partner. Is it one date or several? Could an ex-boyfriend count?

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[dsdmmat]

First world problems.

 

[livingston]

Other senators have raised questions about whether the provision should be retroactive, or whether someone barred from purchasing a gun under the measure, particularly because of a misdemeanor, should have an opportunity to appeal — and how long they must wait before they can do so.

“A lot of our members, as you know, are always concerned about making sure that there is robust due process built into some of those provisions, and so I think that’ll be really key on that one,” Mr. Thune said.

 

[livingston]

Folks in another topic the question was how vague can these laws be . IF this passes could an old flame bring up a questionable act that happened decades ago .. Say when one was in your teen years... I know a person that his girlfriend was angry .. Wanted to walk home in below zero weather ... Friend grabbed her arm and told her he would drive her home but she was no way walking home in that weather... ... By grabbing that arm under these new laws ... No guns for you. If she decided she wanted to . harm you years later. .. Thoughts ?

 

[tirwin1]

Folks in another topic the question was how vague can these laws be . IF this passes could an old flame bring up a questionable act that happened decades ago .. Say when one was in your teen years... I know a person that his girlfriend was angry .. Wanted to walk home in below zero weather ... Friend grabbed her arm and told her he would drive her home but she was no way walking home in that weather... ... By grabbing that arm under these new laws ... No guns for you. If she decided she wanted to . harm you years later. .. Thoughts ?

You know the language will be interpreted in the broadest way possible.

 

[tirwin1]

Gun Talks Snag on Tricky Question: What Counts as a Boyfriend?​

WASHINGTON — Among the sticking points standing in the way of a final deal on what could be the first significant bipartisan gun safety legislation in decades is an age-old question: How do you define a boyfriend?

The question may sound frivolous, but for a small group of Republicans and Democrats who are pressing to translate a hard-won compromise on guns into legislation that can draw 60 votes in the Senate, it is vital. And for millions of women who have been threatened with a firearm by an intimate partner, it is deadly serious.
At issue is a provision in the proposed agreement that would make it more difficult for domestic abusers to obtain guns.

Current law bars people convicted of domestic violence or subject to a domestic violence restraining order from being able to buy a gun, but it applies only if they have been married to or lived with the victim, or had a child with them. Lawmakers have worked unsuccessfully for years to close what has come to be known as the “boyfriend loophole” by expanding the law to include other intimate partners. Taking such a step is seen as one of the more publicly popular and effective ways to reduce gun violence.

But first, lawmakers must agree on what exactly makes someone an intimate partner. Is it one date or several? Could an ex-boyfriend count?

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But....but...what if he identifies as a girlfriend?

 

[pshift]

What if 'he / she / it' identfies as non-binary or refuses to be identified in any manner whatsoever?

 

[Steal2B]

 

[BerettaGuy]

Whatever happened to equality? Why do females deserve special status? I thought they wanted to be treated like men?

 

[SomeSoldier]

Whatever happened to equality? Why do females deserve special status? I thought they wanted to be treated like men?

What's a woman?

 

[Acer-m14]

them too @Steal2B lol .

where is Eddy lol

 

[Deplorable Me]

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You have to have balls to ask a question like that.

 

[Grimscale]

And for millions of women who have been threatened with a firearm by an intimate partner, it is deadly serious.

Which is why it should be FAR easier to buy a gun than they are making it.

At the end of the day a restraining order is just a piece of paper. And a piece of paper never stopped an assault.

 

[BerettaGuy]

Alright already! My head hurts!
The clown show must stop!
Calling all biologists to answer the question!


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[1911guy]

Gun Talks Snag on Tricky Question: What Counts as a Boyfriend?​

WASHINGTON — Among the sticking points standing in the way of a final deal on what could be the first significant bipartisan gun safety legislation in decades is an age-old question: How do you define a boyfriend?

The question may sound frivolous, but for a small group of Republicans and Democrats who are pressing to translate a hard-won compromise on guns into legislation that can draw 60 votes in the Senate, it is vital. And for millions of women who have been threatened with a firearm by an intimate partner, it is deadly serious.
At issue is a provision in the proposed agreement that would make it more difficult for domestic abusers to obtain guns.

Current law bars people convicted of domestic violence or subject to a domestic violence restraining order from being able to buy a gun, but it applies only if they have been married to or lived with the victim, or had a child with them. Lawmakers have worked unsuccessfully for years to close what has come to be known as the “boyfriend loophole” by expanding the law to include other intimate partners. Taking such a step is seen as one of the more publicly popular and effective ways to reduce gun violence.

But first, lawmakers must agree on what exactly makes someone an intimate partner. Is it one date or several? Could an ex-boyfriend count?

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What about girl friends? Girls get angry and violent too, don't they?

 

[Phazer]

First world problems.

As someone wise said: "A person without food has only one problem. A person with plenty of food has many problems."

 

[Phazer]

What about girl friends? Girls get angry and violent too, don't they?

Nah. Never happens.

 

[1911guy]

Nah. Never happens.

Even for guys who identify as girls? What about queers? Lesbians? Undecideds? LOL
What do you call someone who identifies as neuter?

 

[Darth]

Who could have possibly seen an issue with just being able to use language and terms however you want!? :O

 

[pshift]

Alright already! My head hurts!
The clown show must stop!
Calling all biologists to answer the question!
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1 of each for answers A,B,C,D,E, and F. Did I win a prize?

 

[BerettaGuy]

1 of each for answers A,B,C,D,E, and F. Did I win a prize?

Yes, you now have earned a degree in biology from NYGF University.
Go forth into the interweb and answer the question: "What is a woman". From this day forward you shall be known as Dr. Pshift!