Hello from Queens County

[NYGunLawsBlow]

Hello everyone!

I am a "novice" gun enthusiast. What started this fire was my first trip down to "Gun for Hire". I have been there multiple times as well as some other ranges in the NJ area. I have since fell in love with guns and now i am currently looking to assemble my own. I am definitely interested in the AR-15 platform, and have done extensive reading and watching (youtube) about it. Now from what i understand, my rifle can have a normal stock/pistol grip as long as the magazine is permanently attached. Or if I want a detachable mag, it needs to have that funky Thordsen stock/grip, is this information correct? Also, where would I start? I know of someone who also lives in the Queens County area that went out to Suffolk county and purchased a lower/stock/pistol grip combo. He then had to assemble the lower. Is this a viable, "legal" option? My reasoning for this build is for range shooting. I think it would be awesome to bring my own rifle to a range had throw some lead down it. Better than the worn out rifles at the ranges i go to.

 

[BDinPutnam]

You are from Queens?

Outside of the SCR, you have no (read "zero") options for an AR. Unless it lives somewhere outside of the 5 boroughs.

You can't have an AR in NYC. Features or not. Period. Full stop.

 

[NYGunLawsBlow]

You are from Queens?

Outside of the SCR, you have no (read "zero") options for an AR. Unless it lives somewhere outside of the 5 boroughs.

You can't have an AR in NYC. Features or not. Period. Full stop.

From Queens yes. That is good to know. The rifle will live outside of the 5 boroughs. But one other question now. I want to take my rifle to a range in Jersey, am I legally allowed to pass through the 5 boroughs to get there?

 

[togmaster]

Welcome to the forum Mr. Blow. Look around a bit and you will find the answer to your question....more or less.

 

[MoMan]

HMMM!!

 

[HEX]

Welcome !

 

[HEX]

I'm not well-versed enough on region specific NYC laws to give you much assistance in that regard, but surely there are others about who can offer more. I might suggest asking pertinent questions (perhaps even the same questions) in a separate thread in the rifles section. Simply because not everyone looks at the introductions and such, and a more dedicated thread to the topic would probably be a good path to more answers.

Anyway, in general in NY gun law, thus far you are correct in that having a non-detachable magazine allows you to have otherwise banned features; as being both semi-automatic and accepting a detachable magazine is a prerequisite in the defined characteristics of an "assault weapon", before any banned features come into it.

Perhaps a major thing to note (since you didn't mention it) is that I'm fairly certain a resident of NYC must obtain a Rifle/Shotgun Permit to purchase a long gun (unlike the rest of the state). Even if you're building the gun yourself this would be required to purchase the lower (as that would have to be transferred to you by an FFL) . It's likely you're already aware of this I suppose.. but I'm saying it just in case.

Outside of the SCR, you have no (read "zero") options for an AR. Unless it lives somewhere outside of the 5 boroughs. You can't have an AR in NYC. Features or not. Period. Full stop.

Whats the actual law on this ? I don't doubt you at all, but I'm not aware of how it works; other than the 5 round magazine limit.. which I think is a thing. Is it specifically law , or do specific firearms require approval from whatever authority governs the rifle permit.. or something ?

 

[BDinPutnam]

@HEX the AR platform in and of itself is banned in NYC. The only workaround I am aware of is the SCR, which doesn't have an AR lower receiver but accepts AR uppers/barrel assemblies.

 

[96coal449]

Since my post was deleted, maybe I should have welcomed you first.
Forgive me....you started off a little odd at first. Though maybe you were trolling. Apologies.

Welcome to the zoo.

 

[Pale Rider]

Welcome.

 

[RooftopKorean]

The AR-15 platform is illegal in the five boroughs of NYC as per the administrative code. You will also need to have a Rifle/Shotgun permit which you can apply for at the NYPD licensing portal. If you have not already done so, prepare to wait anywhere from 6 to 12 months for processing.

After you get your permit you will also be given a book of rules and regulations and also lists what long guns are restricted in New York City.

You can only purchase a long guns every 90 days according to the rules and regulations. Upon purchasing your long gun from an FFL you will need to complete and submit a triplicate form which the FFL usually completes for you. You keep one copy and mail two to the Rifle/Shotgun division in Kew Gardens. Eventually NYPD will mail you back a copy that is endorsed.

All long guns are restricted to five rounds whether it is a magazine, magazine tube or internal
magazine.

As others have said the Fightlite SCR is your only option to have an AR type rifle in New York City. You can attach any upper from minus .50 BMG uppers (since the ATF deemed it a firearm).

Be extremely mindful of what accessories you put on your SCR.

There is also a ridiculous FDNY fire code which states you could only have a maximum of 200 rounds of ammunition. I'm pretty sure no one adheres to that.

Other than that welcome to the forums and get educated.

 

[Elwood]

There is also a ridiculous FDNY fire code which states you could only have a maximum of 200 rounds of ammunition. I'm pretty sure no one adheres to

where’s the Tresmond law firm and the divorce/ real estate attorney when we need them

 

[Mk44]

Hello everyone!

I am a "novice" gun enthusiast. What started this fire was my first trip down to "Gun for Hire". I have been there multiple times as well as some other ranges in the NJ area. I have since fell in love with guns and now i am currently looking to assemble my own. I am definitely interested in the AR-15 platform, and have done extensive reading and watching (youtube) about it. Now from what i understand, my rifle can have a normal stock/pistol grip as long as the magazine is permanently attached. Or if I want a detachable mag, it needs to have that funky Thordsen stock/grip, is this information correct? Also, where would I start? I know of someone who also lives in the Queens County area that went out to Suffolk county and purchased a lower/stock/pistol grip combo. He then had to assemble the lower. Is this a viable, "legal" option? My reasoning for this build is for range shooting. I think it would be awesome to bring my own rifle to a range had throw some lead down it. Better than the worn out rifles at the ranges i go to.

From Queens yes. That is good to know. The rifle will live outside of the 5 boroughs. But one other question now. I want to take my rifle to a range in Jersey, am I legally allowed to pass through the 5 boroughs to get there?

1st. All "NYC" long gun/shotgun owners must posses a NYC long gun/shotgun license and all firearms must be registered.

You ask if it is "legal"? the answer is NO.
You and your friend live in Queens/ NYC. NYC (5 boroughs) require ALL long guns and shotguns to be registered and the owners MUST posses a NYC long gun/shotgun license.
Regardless, you can't posses/register a AR15 in NYC (5 boroughs ) because they are "completely banned" in NYC.
What your friend is doing is illegal in NYC, but I think you already know that hence why you talk about storing "your" AR15 outside of NYC and use it when you go target shooting in NJ.....
1. You're a NYC resident (with a NYC address on driver lic.) what do you think will happen when you get stopped on the road or the range (traffic violation, fender bender, etc..) by LE when they find an AR15 in your possession. Simple: You are illegally in possession of AR15 because you reside in NYC and you don't have a NYC LG license.
2. I believe there is also an issue with transporting a firearm across State lines/NJ ( maybe someone else can verify this. )

 

[RooftopKorean]

For transportation of firearms I would refer to the NRA-ILA website, Guide To The Interstate Transportation of Firearms (the NRA is not completely useless).

I have gone to NJ and PA from NYC plenty of times to go shooting. Technically as a NYC resident you can only go to the seven ranges inside of the city confines but no one pays any credence to that, 99% of the cops you run into probably wouldn't even know this law.

The city has also been more relaxed on this matter because it was one of the attractions of SCOTUS looking into the improprieties going on in NYS/NYC in relation further infringement on the second amendment.

As long as you are transporting firearms following the guidelines on the NRA-ILA and use common sense you should be "safe". ALWAYS keep the gun locked in a case with the ammunition in a separate compartment of the vehicle; so the firearm in the back seat and the ammo in the trunk and make sure you have all of your credentials.

As for possessing an AR-15 or NYC non-compliant firearms outside of NYC as a NYC resident - I don't think there would be any issue as long as you are not bringing it into the city confines. I know plenty of people who have firearms that are not NYC friendly but who have them in their upstate cabins and second homes.

Also, I must put the disclaimer that I am not offering any legal advise so do not take my word as law.

 

[berettagod1]

Hello everyone!

I am a "novice" gun enthusiast. What started this fire was my first trip down to "Gun for Hire". I have been there multiple times as well as some other ranges in the NJ area. I have since fell in love with guns and now i am currently looking to assemble my own. I am definitely interested in the AR-15 platform, and have done extensive reading and watching (youtube) about it. Now from what i understand, my rifle can have a normal stock/pistol grip as long as the magazine is permanently attached. Or if I want a detachable mag, it needs to have that funky Thordsen stock/grip, is this information correct? Also, where would I start? I know of someone who also lives in the Queens County area that went out to Suffolk county and purchased a lower/stock/pistol grip combo. He then had to assemble the lower. Is this a viable, "legal" option? My reasoning for this build is for range shooting. I think it would be awesome to bring my own rifle to a range had throw some lead down it. Better than the worn out rifles at the ranges i go to.

HMMM...

 

[RooftopKorean]

Hmm what?