Help! A NYS County is trying to suspend / revoke CCW permit over photo w/ religious headgear

[VietnamEraVet]

To attack a member for posting true facts, or opinions, is just an effort at censorship.
This is no the KKK or Hells Angels.

I feel badly, that you feel threatened, but just check your facts, or just state that your posts are simply opinions...Like you support wearing collanders on your head for ID photos, but not that it is legal.

I have had a long career and have done things that educated me. I always stepped up and have been honest.

I remember once long ago, when a big investigation came up, about the dead WestWay Project in NYC, and I was asked for my expense accounts..... I said "I had not filed one for 12 years"............ one interrogator shouted at me that "no one drives for free"..............."I do", I said . Nothing on file was found.........

They got a dozen Bosses +++, for padding their accounts, tax homes, and more infractions etc, and got the IRS involved for tax evasion.

I as clean as a whistle, and it was a great lesson for the future..always tell the truth be honest, even if it pisses people off as you never have to remember what you said or did. The IG, SP, or FBI,et care always watching.

And yet you continue with the off topic nonsensical crap. Not going to accept the wager? Of course not! You are full of shit on the question, and know you will lose $5,000.00.

You must be a riot at parties while trying to impress people. No one here has censored you. Actually, it is a bit entertaining seeing you spout off your endless bullshit and acting infallible.

 

[Zerex]

I never try to impress people..people come to me for help all the time.

I never bet or wager...gambling is actually stealing......check the Bible.
Likely the next time you enter a SP barracks to gamble, it will not be pretty.

Ohio officials reject request to wear spaghetti colander in driver's license photo

Ohio man says the state Bureau of Motor Vehicles discriminated against him because of his "Pastafarian" faith. He wanted to wear a plastic colander.

www.usatoday.com

Just another.

 

[Bruce_Sloane]

FBI Book is the greatest Tool ever invented
Post all your personal Data up there for easy perusal.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

I never try to impress people..people come to me for help all the time.

I never bet or wager...gambling is actually stealing......check the Bible.
Likely the next time you enter a SP barracks to gamble, it will not be pretty.

Ohio officials reject request to wear spaghetti colander in driver's license photo

Ohio man says the state Bureau of Motor Vehicles discriminated against him because of his "Pastafarian" faith. He wanted to wear a plastic colander.

www.usatoday.com

Just another.

Yet again, you're dodging the wager. And quoting a 4 year old newspaper article. And wimping out with the Bible. Still dodging the fact that the SC D/L posted here is 100% REAL ID. ANY LEO can verify it as legit anywhere, - doesn't have to be in their barracks.

But hey, keep on spouting your shit.

 

[Bigfoot]

 

[Bigfoot]

I never try to impress people..people come to me for help all the time.

I never bet or wager...gambling is actually stealing......check the Bible.
Likely the next time you enter a SP barracks to gamble, it will not be pretty.

Ohio officials reject request to wear spaghetti colander in driver's license photo

Ohio man says the state Bureau of Motor Vehicles discriminated against him because of his "Pastafarian" faith. He wanted to wear a plastic colander.

www.usatoday.com

Just another.

 

[prambo]

Who decides what is Constitutional..SCOTUS......not you.

Photoshop bs................no hats is the law.or collanders................why try to deceive us?

Marbury simply showed for the first time, that SCOTUS did have power...and Bruen proves it. Hochul defies..but it will play out...............

That unconstitutional laws are passed, does not mean you can break them...jails are full of guys who were caught and continue to be caught with high capacity mags and EBR's. How many of you registered? I did.

Why do you obey the pistol permit law? Or the Semi laws? or the speed limit?

The reason I post, is to show that facts matter on all subjects, not ill informed opinions that are wrong..........like collander head, who probably does not exist and is a joke on you.

Yeah, you hate the government due to guns, but most of the Fed system works for us..it is only the Biden Schumer and Hochul communists who screw us.

Be correct and not a............... well you know...

NYS gets slightly less back in Fed aid that we pay in taxes, and N Carolina gets more than they pay in Fed taxes...but it all balances out when you figure the Interstate System and State Highway aid and medicaid funds, etc.


Being pissed at facts that you do not know about, is like being mad at your own dick.
Be informed.

At one time I was assigned to work in a large Personnel Office...3000 patients and 2000 employees. As an Asst Administrator, I hired and fired people all the time..Dr's Psychologists, socila workers,, blue collar tradesmen, Nurses, etc etc....

I found out quickly, like Lawyers do, that when confronted most people are liars and embellish and deceive whenever possible. Hiring interviews with the facts was always "productive".

Firing people for stealing, cheating on time and OT, lying, assault crimes, expense acct crimes ,and worker Comp crimes......... was difficult, and I got many threats. I fucking enjoyed it all, but I finally went back to the Highway engineering job when the institution was closing.

I found that not backing people into corners, but explaining to them where they were wrong and went wrong, was very important and facts do matter...............not opinions when opinions are wrong.
I testified as an expert witness in Courts many times for the State and against the State.....facts and truth matter...the Bible says so over and over...

It is as bogus as your arguments.

Photo ID laws are clear, nationwide, and one off "photoshops" is just that...you simply cannot stand up to facts in any argument or discussion. My ego is under control..I let facts rule the situations.

I never fucked over anyone who did not deserve it...it was my job.
The first commandment is THOU SHALL NOT STEAL...why? Kill is down the list a bit.
Lyiig is down too, as "fish stories" have been told for millenia.

Cops are caught all the time for filching drug money and drugs............oh well.

Stealing and greed, is the big one.

I know the NS BCI Barracks/office well, as that is where I started the Embezzlement investigation of a local trap club's total thief Prez and liar, who is now dead and deservedly humiliated for stealing half a mill.

I also know the DA Fitzpatrick well as part of the investigation. Honesty is the best policy and no employees can steal and get away with it for ever. I even know bosses who went down............at least a dozen of them for stealing.

Social clubs are the worst.....VFW's VFD's AL's, etc etc..full of sticky fingers...I have seen it thru the years.
Lawyers who lie and steal are always caught and disbarred..I have known a few.

Just the facts man, and the truth.

By the way the SP who monitor this forum in Marcy NY, likely think this is hilarious!!!

Take in your photo ID's!!!!!

Jesus on a bicycle!!!

My "Ignore" list is still growing....

 

[Cavalry]

It is as bogus as your arguments.

I never fucked over anyone who did not deserve it...it was my job.
The first commandment is THOU SHALL NOT STEAL...why? Kill is down the list a bit.
Lyiig is down too, as "fish stories" have been told for millenia.

Well now, this is pretty typical of the Zero. The first commandment is the no gods before me one, killing comes in at #6, and theft a paltry #8 just before lying.

If you are going to quote shit, it really helps if you have a clue what you are talking about.

 

[Zerex]

The law on photo ID is clear. Whats your problem?

That Ohio photo looks suspiciously like the one you likely photo shopped as "proof". You cannot wear religious headgear for the ID photo...yet you persist. Is a wager your form of a public duel?

Wagering in a SP barracks? Entering into a falsehood scam wager inside a police station, like it was a OTB, tells the tale of your.............mindset. Grow up.


The point of this thread has wandered, as every time you criticize something about the Fed or State Government incorrectly, like Roads, that you have brought up each time, I correct your lack of knowledge on the subject. You do not take anyone else's position or facts as valid..........or the facts as valid.

As far as people go, I have found that unless there are safeguards in place, EVERYWHERE, people will smile and cheat, steal time, money, merchandise, committ fraud, and scam you.

Scam phone calls come daily, as do Internet e-mail scams, shoplifting, social club embezzlement, fellow employees stealing and lying. Wal Mart has done a great thing in self checkout Kiosks to prevent employee theft.
Cameras on cashiers are now like a Casino's security systems that are again necessary due to dishonest people.

We need the laws even more than back in 1970 as people do not believe in the laws of honesty anymore....power breeds theft, and the bible's commandments do list thou shalt not steal above the other sins...mankind is a bunch of shits for the most part.
Be better than that. Golden Rule.

So being truthful and correct as possible and using facts, has benefitted me well in life as many others have fallen to their egos.. Use correct facts, and wearing a spaghetti collander as a hat...is well as dumb as it gets.

The spaghetti head should lose his PP for a year, and have to re-apply, as I said...

 

[Cavalry]

and the bible's commandments do list thou shalt not steal above the other sins...mankind is a bunch of shits for the most part.
Be better than that. Golden Rule.

So being truthful and correct as possible and using facts, has benefitted me well in life as many others have fallen to their egos.. Use correct facts, and wearing a spaghetti collander as a hat...is well as dumb as it gets.

Truthful and correct as possible and using facts? Excellent, lets continue down that path. Its the second time you have stated that theft is above all other sins. How drunk are you now, or is this a much deeper illness?
I'll make it easy for you, Exodus 20, whatever claptrap motel you are living in likely has a copy in the nightstand. Otherwise check with the librarian or if you are feeling frisky the chaplin of whatever institution you involuntary call home.

 

[spat]

You have been protected from banned items...the law for 75 years or more.

Prohibited and Restricted Items

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

Less and less, is seemingly understood by citizens since 1980 or so...............just because you do not know about bringing it into CONUS, does not make it legal.

BP/Customs,ICE have their hands full with Americans, let alone the legal and illegal international travelers. The bins at International airports are always overflowing with these items.

Airport--or "aerodrome" a place where aircraft land.
Border-- the dividing line between countries.

There, educated.

"Protected" is not the word I would use for what the feds are doing go the people.

The states are the proper, constitutionally authorized, forum for all that stuff.

The fact that we got along fine for the first century and a half with a federal government 1/10th the size of the current one is absolute proof they are unnecessary.

Certainly some of the things they do are necessary, or at least beneficial, but almost all of it is properly done by the states.

You keep going on about how the states *need* the federal money. That is utter bullshit. There *is no federal money*. It is all state money that the feds have appropriated.

 

[spat]

The IG, SP, or FBI,etc,are always watching.

And who is watching them ?

The farther you move those decisions away from the people, the *more* corruption you get. Not less.

I have no doubt what you say about the local corruption investigations is true.

Now imagine what would turn up if a light like that was shone on the feds ?

 

[Acer-m14]

If a law is unjust a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so. — Thomas Jefferson​

 

[Zerex]

I can't help you anymore.

Libertarians are a hoot!!!

Leave your spaghetti collander at home, when going to the Pistol Permit Office, to add a gun.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

I can't help you anymore.

Libertarians are a hoot!!!

Leave your spaghetti collander at home, when going to the Pistol Permit Office, to add a gun.

Hey Zero, the only "help" that you have provided on this forum is providing us with some good laughs over your extremely narcissistic stupidity and utterly false characterizations / accusations.

Now, fuck off pal.

 

[Zerex]

Nope; I do not respond to bullies demands.
I f I see a misconception when they appear I will attempt to correct you.

This is not a sovereign citizen/Stormfront, forum. Get used to polite rhetoric.

Maybe nobody ever corrected you, out of misplaced fear?

 

[FrankenCub]

Hmmm... posts seem reminiscent of a former hotshot ego that was here in the past.

 

[Zerex]

I am not that guy..............I am likely worse.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Zerex the Zero when he was a young man, learning his way into the world...

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[Vapor]

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[VietnamEraVet]

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OK by me. I have better things to do than read his posts. Up to Zerex though.

 

[Zerex]

I love personal insults..........kid stuff from 4th grade.
Censorship happens on Stormfront.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

And as Post #203 of this thread shows, it continues!

Seriously Zero, how utterly fucking stupid are you? When did you escape from Bellevue? What drugs are you on?

You have used this thread to throw out a pile of nutty accusations for which you have no basis in fact to make. Libertarian? No. Drug addict? No? Bullied you? No. That you're some great legal expert on REAL ID's? No, you are not. That you're an expert on photoshopping? Only in your confused mental state.

You appear to have gone round the bend, and lost it. I really hope the boys from Bellevue find you in your basement communication / fallout shelter soon... you need help. Like now!. You think that you are all knowing in your confused state. You actually know jack shit.

 

[Vapor]

OK by me. I have better things to do than read his posts. Up to Zerex though.

I was just trying to be funny. I don't have time to read all that. I'm buying a house with a baby on the way.

 

[Zerex]

We appear to agree----------- to disagree!
Called free speech.

I have yet to hear about the brand of collander you might wear, on occasion, for photo ID.

Stetson does not make one.
.

 

[FrankenCub]

He doesn't skimp out, an Alessi Max LE. Doubt @VietnamEraVet will slum and wear one from Dollar General
Alessi MAX LE Chinois Colander, Silver https://a.co/d/5wFTf1N