An FFL buddy of mine had a bunch of these 45 rounds laying around from a customer who passed away, and I would like to know what they are if any of you know?
Neither are Hydra-shocks. Hydra-shocks have a post in the center of the cavity and are head stamped by Federal.
I think the first one is a Winchester-Western JHP. Guessing from around the 80's. The second looks to be Speer Gold Dots. The Speer is an 8 petal bullet in your picture, but the current gold dots I see online are only 7 petal. Maybe they made them differently a while back.
Reloads, both using Speer Gold Dots, probably different bullet weight. Commercially loaded Gold Dots are typically loaded in nickeled plated brass. Weight the individual cartridge, should be different weights. Only a guess 185 gr and 230 gr loads.
As stated above HydraShok will have a post in the middle. Gold Dot bullets will look like "silver" in the middle.