Henry Mares Leg?

[Edwardteach72]

Not that I think these are in any way practical, but could be a pretty fun range toy. I have no real intention of getting one buttttttt

So a coworker I'm guessing just saw one for the very first time and was showing me pictures and shit like oh man look at this how cool would this be.

And unfortunately without any though or proof I instantly went with the, "sucks they arent legal in NY"

But instantly right after I stopped myself and said wait says who and why. I remember years ago hearing at some random gun shop that they where not NY legal and now I think that's not proof at all.



So I am thinking (A) with a pistol permit these would actually be kosher here in NY.

Am I wrong? If so how?

 

[masterswimmer]

I was told they weren't legal in NY because they were actually not considered a pistol, but a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16" (which is illegal).

 

[Edwardteach72]

I was told they weren't legal in NY because they were actually not considered a pistol, but a rifle with a barrel shorter than 16" (which is illegal).

So the info I have found was people only ever talk about hearing stories of a State Trooper expressing how he felt they were actually an SBR.

This isnt true because the company itself lists them as a pistol, and its sold as a pistol which means on the 4473 it would be marked as such so the ATF would have already ruled it as a pistol

 

[Marine Cpl]

Well, you can get a modern polymer one.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Well, you can get a modern polymer one.

Have these been ruled aOkay? They would need a pinned mag though

 

[Marine Cpl]

Have these been ruled aOkay? They would need a pinned mag though

Yeah. Pinned or that Tier 5 if you want to play the game.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Yeah. Pinned or that Tier 5 if you want to play the game.

But honestly still more useful than a mares leg

 

[masterswimmer]

Well, you can get a modern polymer one.

Have these been ruled aOkay? They would need a pinned mag though

Once again, I'm confused. Is this considered a Mare's Leg? Is it a pistol? Is it a rifle? The unSAFE act says no features if the RIFLE has a detachable mag. Pistols can't have suppressors in NY.

The above firearm, be it a pistol with a suppressor, or a rifle with a too short barrel is illegal in NY either way.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Once again, I'm confused. Is this considered a Mare's Leg? Is it a pistol? Is it a rifle? The unSAFE act says no features if the RIFLE has a detachable mag. Pistols can't have suppressors in NY.

The above firearm, be it a pistol with a suppressor, or a rifle with a too short barrel is illegal in NY either way.

Where are you getting suppressor from?

 

[Edwardteach72]

Once again, I'm confused. Is this considered a Mare's Leg? Is it a pistol? Is it a rifle? The unSAFE act says no features if the RIFLE has a detachable mag. Pistols can't have suppressors in NY.

The above firearm, be it a pistol with a suppressor, or a rifle with a too short barrel is illegal in NY either way.

They would need a pinned mag though

 

[masterswimmer]

Where are you getting suppressor from?

Uuuummmm, the picture.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Uuuummmm, the picture.

What picture?

 

[masterswimmer]

What picture?

 

[Edwardteach72]

I'll give you a hint, that on the barrel does the opposite of a suppressor

 

[masterswimmer]

I'll give you a hint, that on the barrel does the opposite of a suppressor

Looks like it would be a threaded barrel though. Illegal on a pistol in NY.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Looks like it would be a threaded barrel though. Illegal on a pistol in NY.

Not if it was pin and welded. Or had a pinned magazine or the Tier 5 bolt shit

 

[masterswimmer]

Not if it was pin and welded. Or had a pinned magazine or the Tier 5 bolt shit

So threaded barrels on a pistol are legal in NY? If there is no suppressor on the pistol but the barrel is threaded that's ok?

 

[Edwardteach72]

So threaded barrels on a pistol are legal in NY? If there is no suppressor on the pistol but the barrel is threaded that's ok?

If it doesn't have a detachable magazine, or isnt semi auto.

 

[Edwardteach72]

But why are we talking about suppressors, those have been banned in NY for decades

 

[masterswimmer]

So threaded barrels on a pistol are legal in NY? If there is no suppressor on the pistol but the barrel is threaded that's ok?

If it doesn't have a detachable magazine, or isnt semi auto.

This specific firearm is what is in question. This discussion is not theoretical, it is doubting the legality of this particular firearm. According to NYSAFE any semiautomatic pistol with a threaded barrel is banned. Regardless of pinned or unpinned mag.

 

[Edwardteach72]

This specific firearm is what is in question. This discussion is not theoretical, it is doubting the legality of this particular firearm. According to NYSAFE any semiautomatic pistol with a threaded barrel is banned. Regardless of pinned or unpinned mag.

No a semi automatic handgun CAN have a threaded barrel, if it doesn't accept a detachable magazine

 

[Edwardteach72]

And you keep bringing up suppressors for some fucking reason, why, what is your fixation with suppressors

 

[masterswimmer]

And you keep bringing up suppressors for some fucking reason, why, what is your fixation with suppressors

The picture of the above firearm YOU say is legal in NY, is in fact banned.

 

[Edwardteach72]

I never said it was legal.

I said it could be made to be legal
.

Show me where it is specifically banned

 

[Paxal]

Well, you can get a modern polymer one.

What the hell is this?

 

[Edwardteach72]

What the hell is this?

FightLite Industries RAIDER 5.56/.300BLK Pistol

 

[masterswimmer]

I never said it was legal.

I said it could be made to be legal
.

Show me where it is specifically banned

Scroll down to the question 'I own a handgun, is that an assault weapon?'.
Then click the link pistols: banned features

Spells it out very clearly.

 

[Target]

Looks like an AR pistol with birdshead grip.

 

[masterswimmer]

And you keep bringing up suppressors for some fucking reason, why, what is your fixation with suppressors

The barrel shroud is banned as well.
I don't know the weight of that piece, but it looks like it would be above 50 oz also.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Scroll down to the question 'I own a handgun, is that an assault weapon?'.
Then click the link pistols: banned features

Spells it out very clearly.

Banned features after being 1 semi auto AND (that's a weird word I know) accepts a detachable magazine

So two things at play you keep ignoring.
1) if its semi auto and can accept a detachable magazine, then it cant have anything else

Or

2) if it's not semi auto it can have what ever the fuck it want

Bonus if its semi auto but cant take a detachable magazine than it can have what ever else it wants