How do we stop crime in NY?

Saltwater60 · Tuesday at 2:46 PM

thughes said:
<imitating a typical retarded NY politician> "How can we get this rampant crime in NY under control?" Derp

Police arrest 22-year-old repeat offender for grand larceny (Police arrest 22-year-old repeat offender for grand larceny)

"Officers then took Young into custody, having already been taken into custody six times since February 6, according to police."

Arrested and taken into custody every other day for the past 12 days!!!!!! WTF? You boys got BIG problems in NY......

Thank our governor and liberals with cashless bail. Probably happening near you as well. Might not be as bad but it’s bad everywhere.

holdover · Tuesday at 2:49 PM

At what point do you say this isnt working?

I like Trumps idea best, if your a multiple offender, you can spend 25 years in prision or voluntarily renounce your citizenship and have an all expense paid trip out of the country forever.

spat · Tuesday at 2:51 PM

Build a solid wall around Albany.

Then fill it in.

That should get rid of 90% of it.

spat · Tuesday at 2:53 PM

holdover said:
At what point do you say this isnt working?

I like Trumps idea best, if your a multiple offender, you can spend 25 years in prision or voluntarily renounce your citizenship and have an all expense paid trip out of the country forever.

How about exponentially increasing sentences.

Your sentence for a crime is multiplied by the number of times you have been previously convicted of felonies.

This would have to be coupled with an end to prosecutorial discretion. You charge the exact crime they committed or nothing at all. You don't get to pretend that car theft was shoplifting because you're afraid you're throwing off some racial quota.

dwa12479 · Tuesday at 5:47 PM

This is the way...

That_FNG · Tuesday at 5:54 PM

holdover said:
At what point do you say this isnt working?

I like Trumps idea best, if your a multiple offender, you can spend 25 years in prision or voluntarily renounce your citizenship and have an all expense paid trip out of the country forever.

Prison should be a miserable deterrent to crime. Currently it is not. For a 2nd time offender of non violent crime or 1st time offender of violent crime prison should be the following: Food should be beans, bread and water. Nothing more. Bed should be metal bunks and no mattresses. No electronic devices of any kind. Temperature should be kept at 55 degrees in winter and 80 degrees in summer. Manual labor should be the only activity available. No workout or sports equipment.

prison should be so miserable that a criminal should wish never to return ever again.

Old Jalopy · Tuesday at 5:55 PM

spat said:
Build a solid wall around Albany.

Then fill it in.

That should get rid of 90% of it.

What goes on in Albany is dictated by NYC and that whole area. So, doing that would be like cutting off the tail of the snake.

Jsmegs77 · Tuesday at 6:10 PM

libertysnake · Tuesday at 6:13 PM

thughes said:
<imitating a typical retarded NY politician> "How can we get this rampant crime in NY under control?" Derp

Police arrest 22-year-old repeat offender for grand larceny (Police arrest 22-year-old repeat offender for grand larceny)

"Officers then took Young into custody, having already been taken into custody six times since February 6, according to police."

Arrested and taken into custody every other day for the past 12 days!!!!!! WTF? You boys got BIG problems in NY......

I think most people here would post a picture of a baseball bat or a gun or something like that would be the end of it.

I don't know all the possible reasons this shit happens. Maybe some people are bad. Maybe the system sucks largely in part to failed policies. Maybe just some dumb luck in life. Probably a combo of all three.

When times are good I'd imagine people are less apt to pursue these lifestyles. Maybe we should start with failed policies.

tirwin1 · Tuesday at 6:19 PM

They say we can't "jail our way out of this problem".

Yes we can. It is very difficult to be a repeat offender if your ass is in jail. Common sense to most, a difficult concept for liberals and politicians to accept.

Now if we were to start asking the question "what do the vast majority of the repeat offenders have in common" perhaps we could start doing something about it. But that is a question politicians will never want the answer to.

Bigfoot · Tuesday at 6:53 PM

This stuff isn't exactly rocket science.

#nO CaSh bAiL herp derp and bought off corrupt DA's.
Then there's the elephant in the room so to speak that is never brought up for reasons... :banghead:

It's quite obvious by now that the repeat criminals are the Democrat's people.
The Illegal invaders are Hochul's people.

Democrat rule + Democrat rule = High crime rates.

Ray Charles's butt hairs can see that.

Duh!

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dsdmmat · Tuesday at 6:58 PM

Vote for people other than the criminals running for office.

fresch · Tuesday at 7:00 PM

Make all crime legal. Fixed it.

dsdmmat · Tuesday at 7:00 PM

fresch said:
Make all crime legal. Fixed it.

The left wing solution.

Bigfoot · Tuesday at 7:18 PM

dsdmmat said:
Vote for people other than the criminals running for office.

Good answer, but unfortunately, for those of us living in (red) Upstate New York that's not effective.

It would be, but were outnumbered by the downstate (NYC) leftists who think being soft on crime is the way to go.

Better them than me, I live in the sticks where crime is hardly an issue. It's not like I have to be around feral humans and ride the subway, I'm just saying.

I do wish it were different though, but I just don't see the window-licking city people changing their ways. They will vote Democrat even if it means being burned alive on a subway train.
I don't get it, I don't get their thought process.

But I'm just about as far away as one can be from NYC and still be within New York State.
So what do I know about it?

Beerman · Tuesday at 7:54 PM

You know things suck when the C.O.s are on strike. Get ready, everybody, this current prison strike is gonna get done attention.

Saltwater60 · Tuesday at 9:09 PM

thughes said:
Nah, probably not. I live where this stuff happens: Two killed in failed home invasion, Free America version

Still was a crime to break in to the house and try to steal those guns.

GOPerfect · Tuesday at 9:15 PM

Saltwater60 said:
Thank our governor and liberals with cashless bail. Probably happening near you as well. Might not be as bad but it’s bad everywhere.

Here I go again....

Thank the citizen, the voter in NYS for electing the same people, over and over and over.

Thank the citizen for doing nothing about it.

GOPerfect · Tuesday at 9:17 PM

That_FNG said:
Prison should be a miserable deterrent to crime. Currently it is not. For a 2nd time offender of non violent crime or 1st time offender of violent crime prison should be the following: Food should be beans, bread and water. Nothing more. Bed should be metal bunks and no mattresses. No electronic devices of any kind. Temperature should be kept at 55 degrees in winter and 80 degrees in summer. Manual labor should be the only activity available. No workout or sports equipment.

prison should be so miserable that a criminal should wish never to return ever again.

The funny think about this..... This used to happen all of the time. It was in-facility disciple. Too many soft hearted people got involved and stopped this from continuing.

Believe it or not, there was a thread here not too long ago, kind of on this topic. I was surprised at how many members are and were against these jail house rules.

Apeman · Wednesday at 1:37 AM

fresch said:
Make all crime legal. Fixed it.

dsdmmat said:
The left wing solution.

The left won't go that far. Those on the law abiding side aren't willing to cross the line to solve this problem. If everything is legal there is no more line, which means it's open season with no bag limit.

Grimscale · Wednesday at 7:39 AM

Arrest and incarcerate all of the criminals, starting with the ones in the NY Legislature and their eyebrows sock puppet.
Forbid use of electronic devices to tally the vote. No more dominion machines!
Stop harassing the law-abiding citizens, especially if they just got done protecting themselves from the results of Albany's fukups.

Koz · Wednesday at 8:33 AM

There are easy solutions, but the average liberal can't stomach them. They want safety, but their political policies promote anarchy. Sadly in NY we are outnumbered by those who want feel good legislation. They are either too stupid, too shortsighted or too brainwashed to see the long term ill effects of their actions. They think throwing money at the problems will work. That lunacy has only emboldened criminal behavior. It's been that way for decades. So yeah, NYS is boned.

Criticalt · Wednesday at 9:08 AM

thughes said:
Nah, probably not. I live where this stuff happens: Two killed in failed home invasion, Free America version

This, and worse is happening in every state, but not everywhere.
All 50 states have leftist cities with progressive prosecutors.
As for the topic of this thread, this would NOT happen where I live in NY.
A few years ago in Jamestown NY, the closest city to us(20 miles), a known weed dealer shot 2 guys who broke into his house to steal money and drugs. One bad guy died, the other lived. No charges brought against the defender.....a known drug dealer.
Every state has both sides represented, NY just has MORE progressive DAs.
Fun fact, Jamestown NY recently got rid of 24 years of democrat leadership and elected a Republican.

How do we stop crime in NY?

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