GUNSICK
6.5 Creedmoor
I'm tired of being afraid. I just told the old lady to get me the stickers I wanted for my Jeep.
The old ones worn out already?
How F-ed Up Is Recertification?
- Thread starter kev74
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The old ones worn out already?
I figure they still need to open every envelope, look at their database to see if I've registered already, and maybe even see if the data on the form matches what's on Big Brother's computer. And in the process of sticking it to "the man", it gets paid for out of my pocket, too. It's the state, there's no win-win here.
Deplorable Me
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And to think those that logged onto NYSP allowed Big Brother access to their computer and tablets................
Deplorable Me
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PS: Had the cat lick my envelope so none of my DNA in their database either.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Well, the joke is on you because the boys down at the crime lab are working in shifts and they will test it, see that it's a cat and quickly move to get your guns. They can't have cats with handguns roaming the streets freely.
Deplorable Me
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He's feral, totally undocumented.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
They're coming for you!
Deplorable Me
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Got this from the Facebook rebel network:
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THE LINK: Good Morning! 81,000 New York Gun Owners Are Now Felons - The Truth About Guns
Good Morning! 81,000 New York Gun Owners Are Now Felons
BY ROBERT FARAGO |
FEB 01, 2018 |
93 COMMENTS
In New York, Gun Owners Balk At New Handgun Database the headline at npr.org reports. Seems a large number of Empire State gun owners chose not to/forgot to/didn’t know to register or re-register themselves and their handguns with the state government by January 31 as per a new law. After the usual political posturing, the article’s “money shot” arrives in paragraph 16 . . .
As of the deadline, more than 81,000 people – or 20 percent of affected handgunowners in New York – haven’t responded to the state’s request.
But New York State Police spokesman Beau Duffy argues that concern about this gundatabase has been overblown. He said felony charges are off the table for now. “We’re not going to take criminal enforcement action, particularly with those people who were unaware of this re-certification process,” Duffy said.
In other words, the liberty of 81k Americans exercising their natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms (without government infringement) now depends on the whims of a bureaucrat. And the police. And the politicians who pull their strings.
To be clear, as HP points out in the comments below, “The state government already has all of the pistol permit information at it’s disposal. The difference here is that while the information was retained at the county level, the record keeping has still been spotty, so the State Police were ordered to update the records and create a clean database. Or try to, looks like 81,000 problems came up.”
In the video above, NY Governor Cuomo promises “periodic” checks” on these problematic [sic] gun owners to “check for issues.” And so it begins . . .
Needless to say, if the New York State police go there, if they begin arresting gun owners for the simple crime of not registering or re-registering their handguns with the state, the cops run the risk of starting something very dangerous for all concerned.
Also needless to say, the civilian disarmament industrial complex is on board with the idea of enforcing this new law.
The next big question is how this registry is going to be used and who’s going to follow up with gun owners. Laura Cutilletta, legal director for the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence [above], believes it could be a game-changer for police.
“This kind of tool seems like something law enforcement would really welcome and would make a priority if they can,” Cutilletta said. “Because to know who is determined to be dangerous already and has a gun — I mean, what better information could you give law enforcement than something like that?”
How do the police know who is “determined to be dangerous?” What exactly does thatmean?
I suspect that Ms. Cutilletta would argue — perhaps privately — that anyone who failed to register themselves and their guns with New York state is, de facto, “determined to be dangerous.”
Folks, this could get ugly. In terms of government overreach, it already is.
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THE LINK: Good Morning! 81,000 New York Gun Owners Are Now Felons - The Truth About Guns
Good Morning! 81,000 New York Gun Owners Are Now Felons
BY ROBERT FARAGO |
FEB 01, 2018 |
93 COMMENTS
In New York, Gun Owners Balk At New Handgun Database the headline at npr.org reports. Seems a large number of Empire State gun owners chose not to/forgot to/didn’t know to register or re-register themselves and their handguns with the state government by January 31 as per a new law. After the usual political posturing, the article’s “money shot” arrives in paragraph 16 . . .
As of the deadline, more than 81,000 people – or 20 percent of affected handgunowners in New York – haven’t responded to the state’s request.
But New York State Police spokesman Beau Duffy argues that concern about this gundatabase has been overblown. He said felony charges are off the table for now. “We’re not going to take criminal enforcement action, particularly with those people who were unaware of this re-certification process,” Duffy said.
In other words, the liberty of 81k Americans exercising their natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms (without government infringement) now depends on the whims of a bureaucrat. And the police. And the politicians who pull their strings.
To be clear, as HP points out in the comments below, “The state government already has all of the pistol permit information at it’s disposal. The difference here is that while the information was retained at the county level, the record keeping has still been spotty, so the State Police were ordered to update the records and create a clean database. Or try to, looks like 81,000 problems came up.”
In the video above, NY Governor Cuomo promises “periodic” checks” on these problematic [sic] gun owners to “check for issues.” And so it begins . . .
Needless to say, if the New York State police go there, if they begin arresting gun owners for the simple crime of not registering or re-registering their handguns with the state, the cops run the risk of starting something very dangerous for all concerned.
Also needless to say, the civilian disarmament industrial complex is on board with the idea of enforcing this new law.
The next big question is how this registry is going to be used and who’s going to follow up with gun owners. Laura Cutilletta, legal director for the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence [above], believes it could be a game-changer for police.
“This kind of tool seems like something law enforcement would really welcome and would make a priority if they can,” Cutilletta said. “Because to know who is determined to be dangerous already and has a gun — I mean, what better information could you give law enforcement than something like that?”
How do the police know who is “determined to be dangerous?” What exactly does thatmean?
I suspect that Ms. Cutilletta would argue — perhaps privately — that anyone who failed to register themselves and their guns with New York state is, de facto, “determined to be dangerous.”
Folks, this could get ugly. In terms of government overreach, it already is.
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wizrd
6.5 Creedmoor
Quite conceivably, all 81,000 permit holders not responding may now be deceased. The problem will fall back to the county pistol offices, to verify their records against the NYSP recertifications. No doubt it will take several months for the state to straighten out their recerts, - then return the list to the counties to check against the county records. I'm figuring this will keep them busy for maybe two or three generations. None of the people or law enforcement agencies involved even know who is going to do the follow-up investigations yet, -- Cuomos ill-conceived safe-act dog and pony show will go on for a long time.
Deplorable Me
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But they're still registered Democrats so Andy will pardon them.
Facebook... Just lol... And NO!
400k handgun owners in NY State? Really?
20,000,000 Residents here in NY...
4,000,000 homes (w/families)...
So, then by those supposed numbers, only 10% of homes with handguns?
hahahahahahaha... Yeah, ok (not)! I think those numbers are greatly misrepresented by purpose!
400k handgun owners in NY State? Really?
20,000,000 Residents here in NY...
4,000,000 homes (w/families)...
So, then by those supposed numbers, only 10% of homes with handguns?
hahahahahahaha... Yeah, ok (not)! I think those numbers are greatly misrepresented by purpose!
To open or concealed carry? If I'm where it is legal to do both (PA for example), I may choose to open carry if I want to make some sort of a statement. If not, I carry concealed.
I see stickers on my vehicle in much the same light. In the past, I have had bumper stickers on it, and been the recipient of vandalism.
So, now, I drive an utterly inconspicuous vehicle that looks like some suburban soccer mom owns it. And I am now the invisible armed man. As much as I might like to promote how I feel on it, I have no desire to pay another deductible. Or garner any potentially unwanted attention.
I see stickers on my vehicle in much the same light. In the past, I have had bumper stickers on it, and been the recipient of vandalism.
So, now, I drive an utterly inconspicuous vehicle that looks like some suburban soccer mom owns it. And I am now the invisible armed man. As much as I might like to promote how I feel on it, I have no desire to pay another deductible. Or garner any potentially unwanted attention.