How many rounds does it take for a gun to be carriable?

[Paxal]

For a gun to be carriable?

So to pass the time I built a P80 G20. My components didn’t fit together too well, so it took a bit to get it running. Has been cycling well lately so now I’m wondering at what point does a gun get to be “carriable”? Its a 10mm but still pretty hard to ammo for it. At this point, since getting it functioning correctly, Ive got maybe 100 rounds through it. Im not yet confident in it, and wondering what the consensus is on how many it takes to earn the “carryable” bedge of goodness?

 

[dsdmmat]

Is it dragging or does the slide feel gritty? If so go to the auto parts store and get some 800 grit valve lapping compound and strip the barrel, recoil spring from the slide. Then work the slide till it moves like glass on oil.

 

[fnfalguy]

I’ve typically used the arbitrary round count of 200 flawless rounds. Sadly that also includes running carry Ammo through it as well. Gets pricey this day and age to have to replace that much carry Ammo.

then again, doesn’t mean Mr. Murphy won’t show up on round 201 when you need it.

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

no on the valve compound.. itll never come off
Run a few hundo then grease it

 

[Cooolone]

For a gun to be carriable?

So to pass the time I built a P80 G20. My components didn’t fit together too well, so it took a bit to get it running. Has been cycling well lately so now I’m wondering at what point does a gun get to be “carriable”? Its a 10mm but still pretty hard to ammo for it. At this point, since getting it functioning correctly, Ive got maybe 100 rounds through it. Im not yet confident in it, and wondering what the consensus is on how many it takes to earn the “carryable” bedge of goodness?

How many rounds? You're asking the wrong question! That's for sure...

If it's not 1000% reliable pulling the trigger that it "WILL" work... It's NOT a carry weapon, period!

Needing it, and pulling the trigger to hear "click" in a life or death situation is not what you want. Doesn't matter how many rounds it has if it can't fire and cycle the first one reliably.

DIY is awesome, but sometimes should be left to novelty amusement until you can fit/finish one that works perfect the first time you try it. That is just an opinion of course... So now you've manipulated it, tweaked it, and even once you've got 100 through it, or 1000, if you have that doubt in the back of your mind, it's not a carry.

Best Regards!

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

IMO I'm far from an expert but I guess making the decision to carry a specific gun comes down to confidence in it. IMO mentally I'm willing to carry with confidence when I feel a gun has been broken in and is functioning properly. Give or take about 200 rounds and so dry firing and I'm satisfied.

 

[Paxal]

Is it dragging or does the slide feel gritty? If so go to the auto parts store and get some 800 grit valve lapping compound and strip the barrel, recoil spring from the slide. Then work the slide till it moves like glass on oil.

Actually, the slide works great! Nice and smooth. The only problem I had in assembling was that the trigger bar rubbed against the frame. So, took some polymer out to create propper clearance and now it seems to be fine. In fact, the trigger turned out to be a lot better than I expected it to be. So, now I’m excited at the potential - thus my original question.

 

[fresch]

Get a knife.

 

[Vapor]

I had a cool stag ar-15 once.

Every once in awhile it would double feed or fail to chamber.

Most people would probably be fine with that.

It haunted my mind. I sold it.

Same with a marlin 336 I had. Every once in awhile it would fail to chamber. Sold.

I've literally never had a malfunction in a pump shotun, a mini -14, saiga, vepr, or ar-15 I've built myself since. If a gone chokes and it's not ammo related, it gets sold.

 

[kev74]

There's no right answer.

Shoot it enough that you're comfortable that it runs as it should. Then run a magazine or 2 of carry ammo through it to make sure it feeds and runs well. That's what I do.

 

[wizrd]

Like kev74 said - no right answer, - my personal thing is - if the gun wont run 400 rounds thru it, without a hiccup - it WON"T get carried by me for personal - OR HOME - protection.

 

[cgrutt]

My personal opinion about this is a carry gun for self defense should always be a factory gun with no mods. Same with ammo ... factory self defense rounds no reloads. After spending 25 years in the NYC insurance business I guess I've just become jaded over litigation management. An overly zealous prosecutor may try to use whatever they can against you why feed the fire. Of course use whatever you've got to defend yourself or someone else but thinking ahead I just feel it would be better if everything used during incident was stock from factory with no modifications. Also happen to agree with comment above that round count doesn't matter if you don't have confidence in gun. Lack of confidence is a non-starter for any self defense tool. My $0.02.

 

[Darth]

I've yet to see a 100% reliable gun.

Fire enough to make you feel comfortable, and know how to clear a malfunction as second nature.

 

[71velle]

The how many rounds should be looked at 2 ways. How many range ammo rounds and how many carry rounds. I like 500 range rounds before trying the carry rounds. I like to do some research on the carry rounds. If many people have had good results with a particular round in my pistol model then I feel comfortable with 30-40 carry rounds.

Being a P80 build I would not know where to start, I have no experience with them.

 

[spat]

For a gun to be carriable?

So to pass the time I built a P80 G20. My components didn’t fit together too well, so it took a bit to get it running. Has been cycling well lately so now I’m wondering at what point does a gun get to be “carriable”? Its a 10mm but still pretty hard to ammo for it. At this point, since getting it functioning correctly, Ive got maybe 100 rounds through it. Im not yet confident in it, and wondering what the consensus is on how many it takes to earn the “carryable” bedge of goodness?

If you ever *need* it, you're likely to fire 10 rounds (or more).

So, 100 flawless rounds is only 10 batches of "need". That could mean a 10% chance you'll have a failure if SHTF.

If you're in a firefight, a failure is a failure, whether it's round 1 or round 10, if you need it and you get click instead of bang you're in trouble.

But, ultimately it's about knowing what problems there were and what got corrected, and what you're comfortable with.

 

[TheMoneyPit]

I’ll only carry factory guns and will only do so once I fully trust it. No specific round count.

 

[dsdmmat]

I’ll only carry factory guns and will only do so once I fully trust it. No specific round count.

I agree on only carrying a gun you can trust.

I stopped carrying factory guns in 2019 after I started making and building my own guns. I figure I can make them better than factory and at the same standard as custom shops so it makes No sense in relying on someone else to make the tools to protect my life. To each their own.

I still carry factory ammo because the ammo I make is mainly lead plinking rounds, but I am equally confident a 200 grain SWC will work in dispatching two legged varmints if need be.

 

[Gonzobird]

I just swapped my P320 FCU out of my X5 Legion into an X-Carry platform. I think it will be a great carry gun but I will not take it out yet as I have not had time to get to the range and put it through the proper testing, know it works and I AM COMFORTABLE pulling the thing out of it's holster. I know it cycles fine and the trigger and reset work but until i see it work with no issues I am carrying my 1911 that I know works every time i pull the trigger.

 

[libertysnake]

I’ve typically used the arbitrary round count of 200 flawless rounds. Sadly that also includes running carry Ammo through it as well. Gets pricey this day and age to have to replace that much carry Ammo.

then again, doesn’t mean Mr. Murphy won’t show up on round 201 when you need it.

Two is one, and one is none.

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[libertysnake]

Actually, this raises an interesting question: does anyone know of any restrictions on carrying more than one loaded pistol if you're permitted for both for full carry?

 

[dsdmmat]

Actually, this raises an interesting question: does anyone know of any restrictions on carrying more than one loaded pistol if you're permitted for both for full carry?

None as long as you keep them concealed. Can you say, welcome to the Matrix?

 

[libertysnake]

None as long as you keep them concealed. Can you say, welcome to the Matrix?

 

[Edwardteach72]

Actually, this raises an interesting question: does anyone know of any restrictions on carrying more than one loaded pistol if you're permitted for both for full carry?

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Where this is illegal you baby killing monster


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[libertysnake]

Welcome to NY

Where this is illegal you baby killing monster
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[Nevar]

I have 1 that I trust above all to carry when Out with My wife. Ruger .357Mag 4" SS Police Service six.. Never failed in all the years.
Now I love my Randall .45acp Le-May . But every once in a while she will fail to feed A hollow point.
My new girl is a P239 , fantastic , but not enough range time with My prefered hollow points