Most of Soviet documents were typed on a regular sheet of paper and had a round ink stamp. Easily forged by all sorts of characters, from petty criminals to Nazi saboteurs.
How to Prepare for a Communist Coup
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Most of Soviet documents were typed on a regular sheet of paper and had a round ink stamp. Easily forged by all sorts of characters, from petty criminals to Nazi saboteurs.
In self defense!
Another thing which is conveniently forgotten nowadays. Abwehr was very good at feeding false information to the Soviets. Prior to WWII a number of high ranking experienced Soviet generals were implicated in treason and executed based on the fake information that Germans fed to Soviet spies.
Blimey
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I wonder why this wasn't a problem in the West.
Mr. terzmo
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Guns may be a big problem here...but a Constitution prevents confiscation...so far..and saying forged documents were a problem so they confiscated typewriter's is like rubbing the @$$ of a bad child. make s no sense
Maybe if the West did fuck off, instead of trying to destroy them, they wouldn't need to take all these measures.
BDinPutnam
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Soviets
Robin
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Yeah the soviets, the ones that vowed they would destroy America from within and claimed 'We will bury you'. Mean while in the west people had free access to soviet propaganda and a few, very, very few actually moved there, though the majority of them returned, mostly though when average people saw the real facts they scoffed at the ass backwards dictatorial system and chose freedom.
Typewriters and copiers were tools of the commies to spread their bullshit, they knew how powerful those tools could be. Confiscation and registration of those items had ZERO to do with your soviet patronizing reason's.
Robin
Typewriters and copiers were tools of the commies to spread their bullshit, they knew how powerful those tools could be. Confiscation and registration of those items had ZERO to do with your soviet patronizing reason's.
Robin
Mr. terzmo
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You should apply for a State Department position as "chief advisor" in regards to foreign relations...specifically USSR.....Your opinionated statements may save the US from USSR domination
Soviets never said they will destroy America FROM WITHIN. We placed nuclear missiles into Turkey and they placed nuclear missiles into Cuba. The crisis ended when both sides agreed to pull them out.
Soviets did screw themselves by limiting what they could disclose to counter propaganda lies and exaggerations that came from the West. They were limited by ideology and didn't want to upset their Eastern European allies. After this is no longer a concern, lots of things are coming out to counter our propaganda.
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BDinPutnam
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"Didn't want to upset their Eastern European allies"?
In what universe is anything in this statement remotely related to reality?
Didn't want to upset them?
"Allies"?
What the honest to God fuck are you smoking?
In what universe is anything in this statement remotely related to reality?
Didn't want to upset them?
"Allies"?
What the honest to God fuck are you smoking?
Warsaw Pact. The skeletons in the closet of Poland, Hungary and Romania. Their role in pre-WWII geopolitics.
BDinPutnam
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Do you actually believe this stuff or are you an actual latter day agent provocateur?
What stuff? Documented history?
BDinPutnam
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You can say with a straight face that the Warsaw Pact was a legitimate, multilateral treaty?
You can say with a straight face that the Warsaw Pact was a legitimate, multilateral treaty?
That's a different subject. My point was Soviets supressed a lot of information embarassing to their former allies and it made them more wonrable to our propaganda.
Holy Sheep Sh*t people. City and State Governments are allowing, enabling, and condoning violent riots. Countless State & Federal "representatives" are advocating for forcibly taking your rights, restricting your actions and movement, passing "aid" bills which take ever more of your earned money & interest, and the Media (controlled by massive and behind the scenes money) has pulled out all the stops on creating division, hatred, tribalism, and fear - and this conversation is a circular logic history lesson about Germany and the USSR? FFS - we're facing the kind of society they both forced on their citizens and instead of sticking to the point we hare off on distractions. Woo Hoo. Mission proceeding as planned. Don't look behind the green curtain.
BDinPutnam
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Point being that we have honest to God soviet communism apologists in our midst so how do you expect to counter this shit?
A symptom perhaps but many symptoms have been known to be fatal.
spat
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There are people who have defected from North Korea that regretted it too.
But when so many people want to leave that you need to build a wall and shoot them if they try to escape, you aren't running a country, you're running a prison.
Yes - it's all too apparent. The human race is violent. It's been violent for ten thousand years. Our combined history is one of war. You'd think that after so many years we might actually be intelligent and informed enough to see through the posturing to the heart of the power grab that is playing out as we speak. Unfortunately, the human race has become much more technologically advanced, lethal, but no more intelligent, just as susceptible to emotional manipulation, and in many ways, even more controllable. Access to more information than any point in history, and less capable of coherent thought. "Modern Life" is nothing but and endless and non-stop series of distractions and pursuit of gratification with highly paid talking heads with no education but enormous presence telling people what to think. Of course the US has committed atrocities. Every single powerful government for the entirety of human history has. Comparisons are useful, but ultimately the present is what matters when the new boss same as the old boss is knocking, and dealing the same path to destruction.
Just accept that nitwitary going on in America today doesn't parallel anything in the Soviet Union. People are not buying communist scare, it's simply a name calling.
spat
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The leaders of the BLM movement bragged publicly about being "trained Marxists".
The Democrat's presidential candidate was nearly a guy who took his honeymoon in Soviet Russia.
The main stream media constantly parrot talking points that could just as easily have come from 1960's TASS.
The entertainment industry actively hates the US, but (literally) can't say a negative word about communist China.
I'm pretty sure this isn't just "a scare".
Steal2B
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Borders weren't build just to prevent people from leaving. They also kept out insurgents. There is always plenty of scum of the earth for CIA or others to train and sneek in, whether it's 1956 Hungary or 1995 Chechnya.
Jcp123
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I’ve been kinda fascinated by the Soviet Union lately, largely because it fell when I was single digits in age. It’s an artifact to me. What humanizes it is that a lot of folks - maybe not most - didn’t want the Soviet thing to end. They got behind Gorbachev because they wanted it to be better. They liked the child care, higher ed, and equality, they just didn’t like the surveillance, shortage of goods, or lack of participation. The Soviet Union bred a want for a social democracy.
I don’t think people cared much about the borders or the lack of private business.
I do think western soft power does a lot more to take these structures down than hard power. Many СССР citizens paid top dollar for jeans, and listened to the BBC. It wore on the Soviets to where it couldn’t keep going on.
Then again, Reagan and Thatcher spent them into the grave.
Oh my, I have so much to learn. Fascinating time in history, that’s just where I am now.
I don’t think people cared much about the borders or the lack of private business.
I do think western soft power does a lot more to take these structures down than hard power. Many СССР citizens paid top dollar for jeans, and listened to the BBC. It wore on the Soviets to where it couldn’t keep going on.
Then again, Reagan and Thatcher spent them into the grave.
Oh my, I have so much to learn. Fascinating time in history, that’s just where I am now.
Robin
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"Soviets never said they will destroy America FROM WITHIN"
Yeah, they did.
Robin
Yeah, they did.
Robin
spat
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No, you are correct, borders have more than one purpose.
Most here are in favor of a wall on our southern border just as much as they think the Berlin wall was evil.
Walls to keep people out are normal and expected. Walls to keep them in are evil incarnate.
That's why keeping people out is called "locking your front door" and is pretty much universally recognized as a good thing.
But locking people in is called kidnapping and is a serious felony.
The moral difference between those actions doesn't change when it's a government, and it doesn't excuse kidnapping if you *also* keep people out.
Looking back, overwhelming majority of Russians believe it was a mistake to trust the West. They also realize that some of the measures unpopular at the time weren't without merit. What came after the break up of the Soviet Union was much worse than the shortages of consumer goods. Birth rates fell to the level of WWII.