Obviously I am missing something.
I am stupid. So tell me how States can legalize Marijuana in defiance of Federal Law ?
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Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
they can do what they want just don't support the BATFE or DEA in the state .. like call them .. like they do with ICE .. my guess ..
Strikes me as very odd.
Yet if Texas simply blocked its southern border, Dementia Joe would declare an ERECTION - or an insurrection.
Yeah what I don't get is how can you buy a gun. Personally don't partake but really couldn't give a damn whether they legalize or not. But make it consistent across the board. If its legal it should be legal everywhere. Same if its not. Not really up on this because it really doesn't matter to me but where exactly does Marijuana fall under Federal purview under US Constitution?
I just applied for a C&R.
It asked right out if I used illegal drugs. As the ATF is Federal, if I used MaryJane - even legally under Mass Law - it would remain illegal federally.
And my C&R would be denied.
As my Mass LTC would be.
Allowing citizens to smoke dope is part and party to Insurrection, IMHO.
Following the law is now optional ?
yeah see first sentence in my response I hear you.
Yes, understanding the nuance of federal law is simply far above any deplorable's pay grade.
I don't smoke pot but have a number of friends that do and frankly my opinion is its no worse than beer. Constitutionally speaking not sure where pot has been enumerated to Federal jurisdiction seems to me it should be a matter of states rights. Be that as it may Federal law is in play. So don't see how a person who smokes pot can "legally" pass 4473 to buy gun. Of course we all know it happens everyday. So with that said make it legal across board or don't. Not really invested one way or the other.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
MaryJane was put on a list .. drugs .. it made white girls have sex with black guys .. i think is the story why lol
and other funny shit .. from the proabition era .
.. Alcohol was a Amendment and then was removed .. so where is the data of what one is worse ?? LOL ..
and other funny shit .. from the proabition era .
.. Alcohol was a Amendment and then was removed .. so where is the data of what one is worse ?? LOL ..
They can't.
It asks on the 4473 if you are a user of Marijuana. Yes = denied.
I don't understand the "it doesn't personally affect me, so I don't really care" mindset though. Not specifically at you. You should care about freedoms that don't personally affect you probably even more than the ones that do, as squashing that nonsense early stops the spread.
That didn't happen with Marijuana and some people think it should still be illegal, but to this date can't come up with an argument as to why without conflating two issues.
If it was "wait...ban a plant!? Fuck right off!" instead of "Well I don't use it, so who cares?" this wouldn't even be an issue
Just said I'm not that invested not that I don't care lol...
spat
.700 Nitro Express
In case you hadn't noticed, we don't really have the rule of law anymore.
Laws apply to everyone equally. When they are applied differently based on your political class then it's just gang rules, not really laws.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
They had to amend the constitution to ban alcohol.
Then they decided they could pass taxes they don't let you pay and bypass the entire messy process.
Marijuana *isn't* illegal federally. It's just taxed, but you aren't allowed to pay the tax.
SCOTUS *really* needs to reign in their abuse of the power to tax. Taxes should only be allowed for revenue. If you don't allow someone to pay, then it's *not* a revenue source and they should be exempt from the rule.
Same goes for post '86 machine guns BTW.
A good solution for all this would be to say that anyone can send in a money order for any tax. If they cash it, you're legal, if they don’t then you're exempt. Just keep proof you sent it.
Taxation is theft.
Modean
.223 Rem
Look into the shenanigans that led to Mary Jane being Federally regulated. It was really about paper companies not wanting competition from hemp. All the reefer madness bull shite was the cover story for regulation.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
States can’t make things legally that are illegal federally. The federal government has no backbone. If they did nys, ca, nj Governors would be jailed among others. Weed and aiding fugitives.
Pissed Off Patriot
.223 Rem
I'm not a smoker, and I'm no fan of illegal drugs in general, but where in the Constitution does it say that the Federal Government has the right to regulate marijuana? Can anyone tell me?
spat
.700 Nitro Express
The closest they will come is "they can tax anything they want as much as they want"
or "The commerce clause lets them regulate anything anyone ever thought of spending money on".
Both are pure BS, but that no longer matters.
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Yeah, but if they don't ever provide a way to pay the tax then it's a round about way to ban things that have no right being banned.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
Yep, they've learned that trick well.
They use it a lot.
Government only has 3 ways to take money from citizens. Taxes, fines, and fees.
Fees are voluntary (they can only withhold a service of you don’t pay).
Fines have a lot of restrictions about what they can be used for.
But Taxes, they use like a $2 whore.
They take a lot of things they can't legally fine people for, but call it a tax instead and get away with it.
Obamacare is the most egregious recent example. But there are many more.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
I know a few people that smoke weed on a regular basis. If you didn't personally know them you would never know... Good responsible people, good consistent earners, good reliable family men.
Smoking weed does not automatically turn someone into a dirty lazy hippy... LOL
Weed does not make someone an instant loser as the stereotype suggests.
The loser who smokes weed would be a loser with or without smoking weed regardless... IMO
Smoking weed does not automatically turn someone into a dirty lazy hippy... LOL
Weed does not make someone an instant loser as the stereotype suggests.
The loser who smokes weed would be a loser with or without smoking weed regardless... IMO
Toecutter
.308 Win
Federal drug laws are illegal and violate the constitution. 9th ammendment
States should have more power within their borders than the federal government 10th ammendment.
States should have more power within their borders than the federal government 10th ammendment.
Toecutter
.308 Win
Ex
Except congress had no authority to even pass obamacare.
Except congress had no authority to even pass obamacare.
Toecutter
.308 Win
There's probably a large portion of the population that smoke pot, and would be larger if not for drug testing. Pot stays in your system for a long time.
There is also alot of workers that use cocaine regularly its out of your system in two days.
Toecutter
.308 Win
Meanwhile in the Lincoln Bedroom.
When is taxation not backed up with threats of violence?
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
I hear among the guys who smoke weed that if it is legalized in NY.
They will continue to supply themselves as they always have.
3 reasons...
1.) Gun ownership issues.
2.) It's no ones else's business (Especially the Governments.)
3.) The tax on NYS weed will be high as fuck.
So they will just keep on doing things the way they always have to avoid those issues.
I have not smoked weed in many years.
But I do think that it should be legal... YMMV
I also think Government should stay completely out of it.
They will continue to supply themselves as they always have.
3 reasons...
1.) Gun ownership issues.
2.) It's no ones else's business (Especially the Governments.)
3.) The tax on NYS weed will be high as fuck.
So they will just keep on doing things the way they always have to avoid those issues.
I have not smoked weed in many years.
But I do think that it should be legal... YMMV
I also think Government should stay completely out of it.
I think it is funny that this has become such a hot topic in NY State.
I think it is funny how so many Americans put the priority lists together.
I think it is funny how so many Americans put the priority lists together.
wizrd
6.5 Creedmoor
Some of you seem to sometimes forget the most basic human right - the right to be left the fuck alone. - And, while you're pondering that, ask yourself - do we REALLY need over 5 million federal laws on the books?