I'm dumping Newsmax - it's worse than FOX !

[Blimey]

TLC used to be the learning channel with actual information on it. Now it's honey boo boo and garbage like that. It's like that because that's what America demanded. Face it, America is now one long deserted strip mall with a population that wants to watch the televised freak show.

Idiocracy was a prescient movie.

 

[spat]

38 or so state and federal courts- including a bunch of judges appointed by Trump- disagree with your assessment of the "evidence."

The statement is still the author's opinion and not fact and doesn't belong in an article claiming to be news.

If they had quoted someone else who claimed it was baseless, that would be news. Applying your own adjectives as an author makes the whole article opinion.

 

[GOPerfect]

It's all biased to varying degrees. I have experimented a bit visiting allsides.com, which is an interesting concept. Basically they know news is biased, so when they post they include a rating of how biased the source of that news is, based on various ratings. They also include how many of their viewership agree with the ratings. It's far from perfect, but you can go to the side and specifically get only news from left or from right or from center places.

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I've tried the ignorance is bliss approach (though you may not be arguing for that here), and there is much to be said for it. But, ultimately, I'm too weak to just stop reading the news, even though I know almost all of it is worthless. By this I mean even when it's objectively true, factual, reasonable...it's still worthless to my life in most cases. Most of it I can't do a thing about.

Oh, this is my life. This is what I do. I do not hold the ignorance is bliss mindset at all.

Again, I want the news. I know sometimes it is boring, but all I really want is the WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN, WHY and sometimes the HOW.

If I want opinion and innuendo, I will take to Social Media and this forum.

I still get all the news that I want and that I desire; just not the majority of it from the MSM.

I do not want an echo chamber, no do I want to Bullshit hate form the left media; I just want the freaking news.

If a cat gets caught up a tree, I do not need to hear the opinions that surround the story. I do not care if the news person does not like cats. Just tell me the fucking cat is stuck up a fucking tree. Really easy.

 

[Acer-m14]

Plugging your ears and singing, "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA" won't change a thing.

You will only become more ignorant and unaware of what little fact is left in our world. There are still plenty of facts to be had you just need to be willing to accept them.

I agree it is hard to trust any news source anymore but our politicians are even less trustworthy. I actually found myself cheering AOC yesterday when she acknowledged there was no way this latest stimulus bill was read. Obviously Cruz and Paul spoke out about the same deal but I almost always agree with those two. I NEVER thought I would be defending something AOC said.

And then she voted ... YES .. on it

 

[spat]

Oh, this is my life. This is what I do. I do not hold the ignorance is bliss mindset at all.

Again, I want the news. I know sometimes it is boring, but all I really want is the WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN, WHY and sometimes the HOW.

If I want opinion and innuendo, I will take to Social Media and this forum.

I still get all the news that I want and that I desire; just not the majority of it from the MSM.

I do not want an echo chamber, no do I want to Bullshit hate form the left media; I just want the freaking news.

If a cat gets caught up a tree, I do not need to hear the opinions that surround the story. I do not care if the news person does not like cats. Just tell me the fucking cat is stuck up a fucking tree. Really easy.

What I want to see is someone make an AI interpreter than can take an article and remove all statements that aren't facts from it. Then build a website that will filter other websites through that AI.

I don't need "fact checkers". I can verify if they are true or not on my own. What I want is a BS sieve that will get rid of all the junk and leave me with just facts to check for myself.

I think many news articles would be blank after running through such a filter these days though.

 

[meketrefe]

What is this facebook thing everyone is talking about?

 

[Dr. Evil]

As time goes by I trust the Epoch Times more than anything else.

 

[SonOfSun]

Taking odds on Parler really being a honeypot for the 3 letter agencies....

 

[Criticalt]

I dont trust or follow any one news outlet....thats just goofy.
I usually listen to independent sources who give links to where they get their info so I can research myself.
Tim Pool I believe is one of the best. I truly believe he cares deeply about the integrity of journalism.
He trusts noboby, questions everything and is smart enough to decipher crap news.
Steven Crowder I believe tries also.
There arent many places left.
Ive also been looking at Summit News recently......I know, I know....Paul Joseph Watson is a bit much but he usually spot on.
Also, Matt Christianson is my very favorite.

 

[Tinman]

I just quit watching all news over a year ago. Don’t believe anything they tell me. They can’t even get the weather right. The Hell with all of them.

 

[FRB]

I just quit watching all news over a year ago. Don’t believe anything they tell me. They can’t even get the weather right. The Hell with all of them.

Exactly! This is me mostly too..... local news and abc cbc nbc has been taboo for me for a few DECADES now. Cable news now is on the list of "waste of time."

 

[Blimey]

Taking odds on Parler really being a honeypot for the 3 letter agencies....




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If these guys are leading the resistance I don’t think Biden has much to worry about.

Most of this is empty bluster but in cases it’s not they sure make it easy for the fbi.

 

[FLA45fan]

Do you want news, or do you want cheerleading? Proper news includes--and we all know this--objective, contrary opinions and debate. If you want a news site to be 100% pro trump all the time, you won't find it. Because it's not news then--it's propaganda.

I've seen an alarming number of people on this forum abandon mainstream media due to its left wing bias (which is perfectly fine) but instead of embracing something more moderate that nonetheless maybe, just sometimes, says something they don't like, they seek ultra hardcore right-wing shitpost sites that are not worth a bucket of puke. This is not how to become informed, and is why so many people continue to have not one iota about what's going on in actual reality.

I dislike bias as much as the next person, and the major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) and CNN and MSNBC (so most all of them) are biased toward the left in one degree or another. But folks need to stop fooling themselves that Fox and Newsmax aren't any more biased but for the right.

It's a challenge but you need to get a diversity of news for your information. When I was commuting regularly I would listen to NPR in the car which while certainly biased to the left wasn't egregiously so on most topics (their Trump Derangement Syndrome notwithstanding). I'd also try to read some articles from Fox, Breitbart or similar sources to balance it out and see what if anything I was missing.

Putting yourself in an echo chamber of your own making doesn't help you or anyone else. The role I've taken is to watch/listen to mainstream sources to get a sense of what is going on but then to try and research the issue deeper to get the details. Basically going to the primary sources (if you've ever done historical research you know what I'm talking about). I supplement that with reading/listening to figures from different backgrounds (though admittedly for me mostly conservative authors/speakers) to get a better philosophical understanding of the world we live in. You can't do this with everything (unless you're retired and do nothing else but sit on a computer all day otherwise who has the time for that) but that's the best most of us can do.

Propaganda is still propaganda regardless of its source.

I have dropped most news outlets due to the lies that they all seem to spew.

I do not need an echo chamber... I want facts. Nothing more, nothing less.

I do not need their opinions.

Yes, yes and yes!

Too many of us tuning out what we don't want to hear. It is what it is, not always what we want it to be.
I am a conservative leaning independent voter. I can think of only one time,one person, when when I didn't vote Republican simply because the guy was an absolute jackass even though a lot of the policies were sound. Apparently I was as not alone in my opinion as he didn't get in . . . anyhow, depending on the particular news outlet you were listening to at the time, he was either the best or the worst thing that that ever happened. One side couldn't stand by his principles or couldn't live with his actions, while the other side wouldn't speak of his inadequacies. It was very polarizing and to this day it amazes me how much the news media on both sides couldn't see and tell the basic story without slanting it to their side.

I just want the facts without the "slant." True fact checking without bias. Follow up would be nice too. I don't want speculation either. Tell me what you know, not what you think I should know or believe. When a political figure makes a statement or commits an action, Everyone should be asking the same questions, not directing the narrative. The problem with the far left or right outlets or platforms is they're directing their narrative to their end game. Claims made without accuracy. Deliberate misinformation, omission of facts and steering statements to the point where people become sheep. Or lemmings, for that matter, following only what they want to believe without grasp of the truth, taking them right over the edge. The disappointment, disbelief, anger, resentment lead to a huge polarizing effect.
Anyhow the guy stepped on his dick too many times, threw too many people under the bus if they disagreed with him, a typical politician, and enough of his initial supporters changed their minds and he didn't make it. I guess we'll never know how that one could have been . . .