IMPROVING VOTING

[CaseHardened]

We need to improve voting, and it is not difficult.

#1 Repeal the 26th Amendment, and restore the voting age to 21.

#2 Voter ID

#3 Remove Party Affiliation from every Ballot.

These three, obvious, fair requirements, would dramatically alter elections.

 

[libertysnake]

Debating 1, but definitely in agreement on 2 and 3.

 

[spat]

There is no good reason whatsoever our voting process needs to be as obfuscated as it is. There are many very bad ones why it is however.

The NSA established national cryptography standards for the use by the federal government. Why aren't the voting machines similarly designed ?

I am all for the free market and so forth, but there are a very few things that should be 100% in the control of the government, voting is one of them.

It should be possible for each person to trace their vote all the way from when they cast it to the final count, with a legally satisfactory chain of evidence such that any attempt at alteration can be easily exposed and prosecuted.

Every aspect of the voting process should be conducted completely publicly. Any software used should have it's source code publicly available for review. Even the hardware should be open source. While the states shouldn't be legally prohibited from using something else, any state not using the federal standard should be highly suspect, to the point that it is not generally trusted and no politician who wants to remain in office would suggest it.

Vote totals should be reported in real time during the election. There should be no "dumps". On your way out of the voting booth, you should be able to see your vote in the total count on a web site with your phone.

Voting is not a complex process, this isn't hard. A few grad students could put this together as a senior project.

 

[Acer-m14]

didn't Harris RF in Rochester make encrypted radios for the military

 

[spat]

didn't Harris RF in Rochester make encrypted radios for the military

They do.

Pretty sure the military owns the designs and software and could switch vendors anytime they wanted.

I'm not saying the government has to *make* the voting machines, but they should own the design and it should be open source, so that anyone with the skills and spare time can expose any flaws.

The Harris radios aren't open source, but you can bet the encryption algorithms used in them are, and have been extensively studied.

That is how you develop public confidence in a system like that, you say "It's all been public for a decade, some of the smartest minds in the world have looked at it in great detail and we fixed every flaw they found".

 

[togmaster]

#2 first.
#3 is a great idea.

 

[Saltwater60]

First you need to want election security to have it. Second it’s a snap to do and it would save money in the long run.
here’s what’s needed and super easy to do IMO. Take a credit card like device since they already exist. Each voter gets one and it’s linked to their voting account. You can the magnetic bar code on the side and you name and picture come up. The machine then scans your face to verify it’s you. You then select who you want to vote for and you’re done.

no big book of voter rolls, you’d only need one poll monitor instead of 4-5 of them. Really easy and really secure. The feds already have access to all DMV records and pictures. You don’t have an ID card of some sort fine then any place in the USA will take pictures for free for you to get one with proper documents.

 

[Cavalry]

The machine then scans your face to verify it’s you.

Everything you said except that. Nothing stops nefarious sources from preventing votes of the people they dont like. That and I'm biometrically tracked enough.

Also link the SS death list into the voter database. When you die your card becomes void.

 

[Saltwater60]

Everything you said except that. Nothing stops nefarious sources from preventing votes of the people they dont like. That and I'm biometrically tracked enough.

Also link the SS death list into the voter database. When you die your card becomes void.

They already know your face if you have a drivers license or pistol permit. It would be nothing new.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I like the idea of #3. The idea would be to make voters actually have to research the people on the ballots. The problem is that the MSM and farcebook would still tell the lemmings who to vote for. We'd essentially be exactly where we're at now. #2 is a good idea though.

 

[dsdmmat]

Eliminate all absentee in voting except military and civilian government officials stationed overseas, with an exemption for home bound persons which must be applied for By Them. All others must vote in person and their finger stained with ink so they cannot vote in person twice.

return the senate to be appointed by the states, as it is right now the states have no representation.

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

 

[SomeSoldier]

I have been talking about this since before this election took place. Voting could occur electronically still but....... It would require you register your finger print and then the system would use block chain to encrypt your vote. It would use your finger print, vote, and name in the block chain. If any one of those things change it makes the whole chain fail checks therefore invalidate the vote.

 

[ProgSpear]

Why is it that when votes were tabulated by hand, and with an actual specified election day, somehow we knew the results by the following morning? Now we have all the computing power in the world, but it takes weeks. What’s the real variable? My guess is an infinitely elastic voting schedule promulgated by a specific political party to arrive at a pre-determined outcome.

The deadline should be election day. period. And if you are too stupid or lazy to show up or go through a fair absentee ballot process, then you don’t deserve to vote.

 

[Jmac00]

If India can have voter ID, with 6 billion voters, Im pretty sure America can do like wise.

AND don't give me any shit about racism. anyone born in America, with a social security number, can get a ID. even if you don't drive, you can get an ID. Hell, you can get a Passport without a drivers license. Voter ID should be a no brainer

 

[dwa12479]

We need to improve voting, and it is not difficult.

#1 Repeal the 26th Amendment, and restore the voting age to 21.

#2 Voter ID

#3 Remove Party Affiliation from every Ballot.

These three, obvious, fair requirements, would dramatically alter elections.

If we can give 18 yr olds a rifle and send them overseas to die for their country, the least we can do is allow them to have a say in who's Commander-In-Chief.

 

[Catskillkid]

If we can give 18 yr olds a rifle and send them overseas to die for their country, the least we can do is allow them to have a say in who's Commander-In-Chief.

I would say make the exception for 18-20 year olds actively serving in the armed forces. Everyone else waits until they're 21.

I'm also the radical who thinks we should go back to only land-owning individuals being able to vote too (again, exceptions for military service and veterans).

 

[CaseHardened]

If we can give 18 yr olds a rifle and send them overseas to die for their country, the least we can do is allow them to have a say in who's Commander-In-Chief.

And when was the last time the USA drafted anyone ?

When the draft comes back, drop the age to 18 again.

Eighteen year olds vote for the people Taylor Swift tell them to.

 

[GOPerfect]

We need to improve voting, and it is not difficult.

#1 Repeal the 26th Amendment, and restore the voting age to 21.

#2 Voter ID

#3 Remove Party Affiliation from every Ballot.

These three, obvious, fair requirements, would dramatically alter elections.

I think the voting age should be lowered even further. The future of the Country is the future of the youth, they should have some say.

I have a 16 year old that would put the intelligence level of most to absolute shame.

I am a huge fan of voter ID.

I am okay with removing Party affiliation as well.

I would also end mail in voting except those that can prove they will be away from the voting area on election day. IE; Military, vacation, living abroad and the like.

 

[Phazer]

We need to improve voting, and it is not difficult.

#1 Repeal the 26th Amendment, and restore the voting age to 21.

#2 Voter ID

#3 Remove Party Affiliation from every Ballot.

These three, obvious, fair requirements, would dramatically alter elections.

After this election, it may not matter anymore.

 

[Phazer]

I'm also the radical who thinks we should go back to only land-owning individuals being able to vote too (again, exceptions for military service and veterans).

That's not radical. As you remind us, that was simply to ensure that those with skin in the game, and something to lose, would be voting on policy. Otherwise, people will vote to give themselves more of the public till.