DrBleachCocktail
.44 mag
The title is pretty self explanatory but how would the process work? How long and I best believe $200 tax stamp.
In A Free State How Would One Purchase A Full Auto Lower?
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GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
And lot's and lot's of $$$ you can buy a full auto drop in sear
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
or bend a paper clip just right and drop in 
lol ..
lol ..
C3D
.308 Win
Relatively easy. Find a lower or complete gun you want to purchase. Let’s assume it’s at an FFL in the same state you are in, to make it easy.
Fill out 2 copies of Form 4, declaration of citizenship, fingerprint card, $200 check, mail to ATF. Wait up to 1 year for approval. Go to dealer, fill out 4473, get a NICS check (only in some states, exempt at Federal level), take full auto lower, go home.
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And plan on spending $15K (the extreme bottom end of the full auto lower price range) to upwards of $35K for a nice Colt M16A2.
Fill out 2 copies of Form 4, declaration of citizenship, fingerprint card, $200 check, mail to ATF. Wait up to 1 year for approval. Go to dealer, fill out 4473, get a NICS check (only in some states, exempt at Federal level), take full auto lower, go home.
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And plan on spending $15K (the extreme bottom end of the full auto lower price range) to upwards of $35K for a nice Colt M16A2.
Or,....
You could just buy a standard lower and for +/- $400 purchase a FosTec Echo II binary trigger. Push out 2 pins, remove original FCG, drop in the new FCG, and replace the pins. Legal in most states. Not a bump stock, and not technically full auto.
Franklin Armory makes one too.
You could just buy a standard lower and for +/- $400 purchase a FosTec Echo II binary trigger. Push out 2 pins, remove original FCG, drop in the new FCG, and replace the pins. Legal in most states. Not a bump stock, and not technically full auto.
Franklin Armory makes one too.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
For the price of the lower, I wonder how many years you could afford to maintain the FFL07 / SOT03 to legally be able to drill the 3rd hole yourself.
Bonus is that route even works in NY.
The only time I have been able to fire full auto was a result of this
After the SAFE Act, a local gunsmith got his SOT03, and made an M16 as an FU to NY.
While I understand the desire to shoot and own full auto guns, it must be pointed out that full auto guns are expensive to feed. So if you can afford to buy one you should be able to afford to feed it.
I did all my full auto shooting on Uncle Sam’s dime, And mainly from helicopters. It is a riot to shoot from an elevated moving platform and walk tracers in on targets 1100 meters away.
Personally I would and am going to go the Suppressor Route. My Brother has a bunch of them and I plan on following in his foot steps. Take my 7.5 inch AR pistol and slap a can on it for safe comfortable shooting of course.
I did all my full auto shooting on Uncle Sam’s dime, And mainly from helicopters. It is a riot to shoot from an elevated moving platform and walk tracers in on targets 1100 meters away.
Personally I would and am going to go the Suppressor Route. My Brother has a bunch of them and I plan on following in his foot steps. Take my 7.5 inch AR pistol and slap a can on it for safe comfortable shooting of course.
C3D
.308 Win
The answer would surprise you. FFL is $200 for 3 years, and that seems cheap. Then come the add-ons. $500 per year in special occupational tax to ATF. $2,250 in ITAR registration fee, if you are a manufacturer. $100-300 per year in local occupational license. In most places you will need to have commercial space due to local zoning, so figure that's a minimum of $4-5K a year in rent for a very basic place. Add an accountant for mandatory sales tax filings, even if you don't have any revenue. Expect to be inspected by ATF on any particular day, and be ready for that.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
A full auto gun is the most stupid and useless system anyone could buy including military infantry.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
In combat, rifleman will rarely if ever select their M16’s or M4’s and fire full auto at an enemy. The automatic rifleman with a SAW or M240 is usually the only one who does so.
It’s a waste of ammo and accuracy is bad unless you are on a bipod or tripod which most rifles in combat aren’t equipped with.
The Marines after extensive testing actually have dumped the M249 Saw in favor of accuracy. Their fireteam level automatic rifleman is actually trained for 2 roles now. Designed sniper primarily and automatic rifleman where he is used for suppressive fire on an overly built M16.
It’s a waste of ammo and accuracy is bad unless you are on a bipod or tripod which most rifles in combat aren’t equipped with.
The Marines after extensive testing actually have dumped the M249 Saw in favor of accuracy. Their fireteam level automatic rifleman is actually trained for 2 roles now. Designed sniper primarily and automatic rifleman where he is used for suppressive fire on an overly built M16.
fnfalguy
.308 Win
Is it really the most stupid if it can bring a smile to your face, a giggle to your lips and your mind racing back to being a giddy kid?
forget tactics here.
forget tactics here.
C3D
.308 Win
I should have added, that after 10 years of doing the above you will have nothing to show for it. If you buy a transferable, the experience over the last 20 years shows you would either do OK financially.
thegatman
.308 Win
I have a select auto you can buy. It works on the premise that you pull the trigger real fast each time you want it to fire.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
If you ever have the opportunity to buy a Ferrari or Lamborghini don't. It wastes alot of gas and you're not a race car driver. That's all I hear with comments like above.
fnfalguy
.308 Win
Never drove a Ferrari or Lamborghin, but have played with dozens of Class 3 guns. Still brings a smile to my weathered face.