Israel: 'State of war' declared after thousands of rockets fired from Gaza Strip

[stokes]

Im more concerned about a joint US Isreal attack on Iran. I can see that happening very shortly

I dont think we'll see us directly involved. Brandon and Kumholio aint got a hair on their asses.

 

[holdover]

I dont think we'll see us directly involved. Brandon and Kumholio aint got a hair on their asses.

Timing is everything with these devils

 

[holdover]

Heres the dilemma for the West, From what I saw, they are planning to take out Irans oil and storage facility's , probably ports also. This would most likely break the back of Hamas and Hezbollah economically , Looks good on paper. But the consequences are that another oil supplier willl step up and fill the vacuum in the market , and that vacuum is Russia. Russias economy has already increased by around 3-5% , If they do this they may as well send Russia a check for 3-5% more . They are a major supplier to China and Europe. and china and Europe has to get oil from somewhere. Europe is still buying oil and gas from Russia and Iran through middlemen . Russia stands to gain economically through oil and arms exports to Iran.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Putin could launch a strike against Israeli airfields with Iskanders But more likely he will provide one or many countries already involved with Iskanders. He certainly will provide Iran with whatever he can afford to give them . He is going to arm Isreals enemys and avoid a direct war.

Im more concerned about a joint US Isreal attack on Iran. I can see that happening very shortly

Totally agree

Think of this from Putin's perspective.

What would take the world's attention away from Ukraine? A war with Israel, Iran and the middle east.

You better believe Putin will give everything he can afford to give to Iran to do the exact same thing being done to him in Ukraine to shift the focus. He will want the US to get entangled in the middle east to spend less on Ukraine.

China will be pissed as they are a major buyer of Iranian oil and gas. In fact if the US gets dragged in directly or as a proxy to another conflict china may just say F- it the US is spread too thin and has depleted their reserves so much that they won't also risk a 3rd conflict and they will make their move on Taiwan while everyone is distracted by multiple theaters simultaneously.

 

[tirwin1]

Heres the dilemma for the West, From what I saw, they are planning to take out Irans oil and storage facility's , probably ports also. This would most likely break the back of Hamas and Hezbollah economically , Looks good on paper. But the consequences are that another oil supplier willl step up and fill the vacuum in the market , and that vacuum is Russia. Russias economy has already increased by around 3-5% , If they do this they may as well send Russia a check for 3-5% more . They are a major supplier to China and Europe. and china and Europe has to get oil from somewhere. Europe is still buying oil and gas from Russia and Iran through middlemen . Russia stands to gain economically through oil and arms exports to Iran.

I actually think the Biden administration would be pressuring the Israelis to avoid the oil facilities. The impact on Iran will be large but the impact to the rest of the world could be even larger. The chinese will be very pissed off and the global price of oil will rise dramatically. As you point out this will help russia.

 

[holdover]

I actually think the Biden administration would be pressuring the Israelis to avoid the oil facilities. The impact on Iran will be large but the impact to the rest of the world could be even larger. The chinese will be very pissed off and the global price of oil will rise dramatically. As you point out this will help russia.

I think thats why they are hesitating. I dont think its a matter of balls, I think its a matter of repercussions, particularly creating a powerfull Russia .Which also helps the BRIC nations and weakens the dollar in the process

My guess is they are looking over shorter term ways of fucking Hamas or Hezbolla without helping Russia or the BRIC 's