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I know what you mean. I said at the beginning of this thread, its going to be hard to find any sympathy for the Palestinians after what happened .
Israel: 'State of war' declared after thousands of rockets fired from Gaza Strip
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I know what you mean. I said at the beginning of this thread, its going to be hard to find any sympathy for the Palestinians after what happened .
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I can get behind that except for one thing, Isreals enemy's are not terrified , they are angry, well armed , and are now contemplating a multi national war against Israel which Isreal cannot win. Pakistan has nukes, Iran probably has a few from the soviet union, Turkey may have a few of thier own Saudi's may have a few under the table nukes . the combined armies of the middle east would be fatal to Isreal . And I fear Isreal is painting itself into a corner from which it cannot escape. If they time it correctly when the US cannot respond, say a war in China or an economic collaspe or something like that, they are on thier own . So even if they are justified, there are consequences to thier actions
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Israel simply needs to tear down the wall around Gaza.
So do we at our border, for that matter. Time to Go Green!
So do we at our border, for that matter. Time to Go Green!
Iran and Saudi Arabia are mortal enemies due to religious (shia vs Sunni), economic and political reasons. From what I gather the Saudis and Israelis have shared interests against Iran's trouble making policies in the middle east. It is highly unlikely the Saudis would join Iran in any attack on Israel.
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That was true a year ago. they have been coming together before the war began. they are putting their differences aside for the moment.
On 10 March, Saudi Arabia and Iran agreed to restore diplomatic relations as part of a Chinese-sponsored initiative that appears aimed at reducing tensions across the Middle East. Crisis Group experts offer a 360-degree view of the implications for the region’s many flashpoints.
The Saudi-Iranian agreement provides a roadmap for re-establishing diplomatic ties within two months. If all goes well, it could reduce the intense hostility that has existed between the two countries for the better part of a decade. For now, the agreement’s rollout appears to be proceeding apace: King Salman of Saudi Arabia invited Iran’s President Ebrahim Raisi to Riyadh, and the two countries’ foreign ministers met in Beijing on 6 April. A senior Saudi official told Crisis Group that Riyadh “wants to build on the momentum generated by the success of the Beijing talks”, while the Saudi finance minister indicated that the country was prepared to start investing in Iran “very quickly”. Both countries sent technical delegations in preparation for reopening their respective embassies, suggesting that the two-month timeline is on track.
The Impact of the Saudi-Iranian Rapprochement on Middle East Conflicts | Crisis Group
On 10 March, Saudi Arabia and Iran agreed to restore diplomatic relations as part of a Chinese-sponsored initiative that appears aimed at reducing tensions across the Middle East. Crisis Group experts offer a 360-degree view of the implications for the region’s many flashpoints.
www.crisisgroup.org
RIYADH, Oct 13 (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia is putting U.S.-backed plans to normalise ties with Israel on ice, two sources familiar with Riyadh's thinking said, signalling a rapid rethinking of its foreign policy priorities as war escalates between Israel and Palestinian group Hamas.
The conflict has also pushed the kingdom to engage with Iran.
Saudi rebuffs U.S. call to condemn Hamas attack
The leaders of both Islamic countries appeared to put aside their historical animosities at a summit to present a united stand against Israel’s bombardment of the strip after Hamas’s attack.
The leaders of Iran and Saudi Arabia, regional rivals who restored diplomatic ties this year, met in Riyadh on Saturday at a summit where they called for an immediate cease-fire in Gaza and unconditional delivery of humanitarian aid to the enclave, which Israeli forces have besieged since the Oct. 7 Hamas attacks.
The two Islamic countries, who support opposing factions in proxy conflicts across the region, first announced their diplomatic breakthrough in March, after years of hostility, in a deal brokered by China. But it was unclear whether the shift would lead to a lasting détente between Saudi Arabia’s Sunni monarchy and Iran’s Shiite government.
Israel’s bombardment of Gaza, however, appears to have hastened the warming of ties between Saudi Arabia and Iran, just as delicate diplomacy had been inching Saudi Arabia and Israel toward possible normalization of relations. Iran, which Israel considers its most dangerous foe, is a powerful patron of Hamas.
The Saudi crown prince said the crisis had demonstrated “the failure of the Security Council and the international community to put an end to the flagrant Israeli violations of international laws.”
The Arab and Muslim participants at the summit called for an arms embargo against Israel and said regional peace could not be achieved without resolving the Palestinian issue based on the two-state solution, a longtime pillar of Mideast diplomacy efforts.
Iran and Saudi Arabia, Regional Rivals, Call for Gaza Cease-Fire (Published 2023)
The leaders of both Islamic countries appeared to put aside their historical animosities at a summit to present a united stand against Israel’s bombardment of the strip after Hamas’s attack.
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holdover
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Hamas is finished. Barring a major event . I think its going to be over sooner than We thought.
JaguarJaguarGolf
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My NG infantry unit had Mass in the field. Chaplain explaining the burden we have accepted for society. “We need killers in this world, because we have murderers”
JaguarJaguarGolf
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Let’s hope the fight ending over there does not trigger the fight here.
We are the Great Satan. Islamists since the Egyptian Brotherhood in the 1950’s have always had as a goal drawing USA into conflict by targeting Israel, recognising that we would always come to Israel’s defence.
JaguarJaguarGolf
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Prison ships. British did it to us during Revolution. Make it more humane, buy an older cruise liner and detain them there
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Better
holdover
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In case of a broader war in the region, the US may come to the defense of Isreal, which would mean something like that is inevitable
We are knee deep in the middle east , We have chosen sides, We have open boarders, If some kind of war broke out in the mideast its almost a no- brainer that we will pay for those open boarders in American blood.
Just realize, it's not just Hamas.
Others not directly involved in this conflict also call out for the death of Jews, or deny that atrocities have been perpetrated on the Jewish people, or complain when those atrocities are mentioned (see screen grabs below from Gab - note, view them from right to left. the system decided to add them in reverse order).
One thing I've realized since the creation of the plandemic is a significant rise in religious persecution. Calling for the deaths of others, or forced subjugation, because they do not follow your particular beliefs is reprehensible.
Attachments
livingston
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They thought They’ve seen it all: Forensic Institute personnel speak about the horrors
livingston
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livingston
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"Father, Child Tied Together, Burnt Alive" | What We Saw At Israel's Foreign Media Briefing | Hamas
FrankenCub
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Islam has been calling for the death of everyone besides Muslims since its conception.
spat
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I've seen that movie.
And the remake.
And the remake of the remake.
Isreal will just end up with more territory, and more whiny refugees again.
livingston
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Watch MSNBC Host’s Face As Jerusalem Mayor Turns Her Question Against Her
Cavalry
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What sort of IDF propaganda is that? There are two separate and very different videos with the same guy surrendering. Did he need to surrender twice? Was take one not in the right light?
holdover
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HA,HA,HA WOW! Says the guy who thinks Ukraine is winning. know history no history.
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Probably heading to the Mexican border.
GTN
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They are never happy.
They wanted them out of the cities so they were not being bombed.
and now they are out.
bitch bitch bitch
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Looks like Iran's Houthi friends want to give more NATO navies some target practice.
www.france24.com
French frigate downs drones over Red Sea in 'legitimate defence'
A French frigate that shot down two drones in the Red Sea was acting in self-defence after coming under attack from the unmanned aerial vehicles, the foreign ministry in Paris said on Monday.
www.france24.com
Dr. Evil
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Dr. Evil
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Andrea Mitchell. An embarrassment of a Jew.
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