LAPD accidently kills teen while stopping an assault (Video of shooting)

[meketrefe]

wrong gun and specially ammo for this type of engagement.
A high velocity round like a varmint grenade will come with a lower liability yet equally lethal on neutralizing soft targets.
I always tell patrol cars should have spire points and fmjs for fights on the streets with cars barriers but for indoors
populated structures they should use a specialized type of ammo/magazine.
I agree with @Darth, a modern tactical semi-auto shotgun with medium shot and a wider spread could have been better to control
colateral while being very effective stopping threats on their tracks.
Experience and Situational awareness is also key. Everyone knows in those buildings walls are not concrete bunkers.
Police are under a lot of pressure from all side but a bit more training would go long ways.
Someties we talk about this situation during the IDPA training that, btw, some LE guys have to cover from their own pocket so they can
get better and be safer.
Departments themselves do not give enough training.

 

[Acer-m14]

The more I think about this, the more I think that particular cop might have been waiting his whole career for an excuse to shoot someone.

It's not common, but there *are* people out there like that.

like a bored Fireman who becomes a arsonist

 

[spat]

like a bored Fireman who becomes a arsonist

More like an arsonist who becomes a fireman so he can watch stuff burn.

Then decides he isn't satisfied with just watching other people's fires....

 

[1341]

More like an arsonist who becomes a fireman so he can watch stuff burn.

Then decides he isn't satisfied with just watching other people's fires....

This a situation in which the "what if's" run rampant. The original call came over as a man shooting people in a store, so active shooting. I would think this Departments training dictate form up a team if you can and head in to confront the shooter. Probably also that the lead officer's have a patrol rifle. Since a blaring radio would also give away position, most likely all further information from 911 is minimal. Next you a bloody victim and as you look up a man with something in his hand, who refuses to drop it and turns to move away. What if there is another person right there or what if he entered the dressing room that had both the daughter and mother.

 

[Toecutter]

This a situation in which the "what if's" run rampant. The original call came over as a man shooting people in a store, so active shooting. I would think this Departments training dictate form up a team if you can and head in to confront the shooter. Probably also that the lead officer's have a patrol rifle. Since a blaring radio would also give away position, most likely all further information from 911 is minimal. Next you a bloody victim and as you look up a man with something in his hand, who refuses to drop it and turns to move away. What if there is another person right there or what if he entered the dressing room that had both the daughter and mother.

Aa upset as I was at this situation, it really comes down to if this is what he was taught to do, then you can't fault the cop. What's done is done we can't change that, maybe a policy needs to change. Those rifles were given to lapd to defeat body armor. Your in a massive city rifles should be a last resort.

I'd like to see body cam after what we see, may tell more.

 

[1341]

I think sometimes we rely on what we see on the body cam too much. They are definitely not synced with what the human eye is actually looking at or perceiving.

Aa upset as I was at this situation, it really comes down to if this is what he was taught to do, then you can't fault the cop. What's done is done we can't change that, maybe a policy needs to change. Those rifles were given to lapd to defeat body armor. Your in a massive city rifles should be a last resort.

I'd like to see body cam after what we see, may tell

 

[Acer-m14]

More like an arsonist who becomes a fireman so he can watch stuff burn.

Then decides he isn't satisfied with just watching other people's fires....

Convicted Arsonist Named Chief of Fire Department Sparks Resignations

Firefighters said the newly-appointed acting chief had "shown a lack of respect" towards his team.

www.newsweek.com

 

[spat]

This a situation in which the "what if's" run rampant. The original call came over as a man shooting people in a store, so active shooting. I would think this Departments training dictate form up a team if you can and head in to confront the shooter. Probably also that the lead officer's have a patrol rifle. Since a blaring radio would also give away position, most likely all further information from 911 is minimal. Next you a bloody victim and as you look up a man with something in his hand, who refuses to drop it and turns to move away. What if there is another person right there or what if he entered the dressing room that had both the daughter and mother.

It seems like none of the other officers on scene agreed.

 

[GOPerfect]

Depends entirely on where you live.

And the construction of the house

And the ammo used and the type of AR

 

[GOPerfect]

The more I think about this, the more I think that particular cop might have been waiting his whole career for an excuse to shoot someone.

It's not common, but there *are* people out there like that.

My be more common than you think.