Lawsuit against NYC and NYPD License Division

[Saltwater60]

Submitted my application on 8/23/2022. Appointment for prints and interview at 1PP on 6/5/23 (”interview” consisted of filling out paper copy of already electronically application). Permit issued and mailed to my home address in January 2024.

I found the NYPD to be very accommodating. They originally had me scheduled for prints/interview in March of 2023, I was unable to travel to NYC in March due to my work schedule. I called and they let me pick the date for prints/interview. Total time spent at 1PP was approximately 2 hours.

There is a NYS law where the permit decisions is supposed to be given in 6 months or less and also the cost and many appointments needed are a joke. Why did you have to travel to NYC for your prints as there are many places around that do them electronically. Identigo is one company that many people use and many government agencies trust. They aren’t accommodating. Yes it was nice that they let you change dates and pick a date for prints but none of that should be necessary.

 

[RooftopKorean]

They make you do it there because its their way to exact control, make the process as tedious as possible in the hopes people will give up or be turned off to the prospect of applying.

The cost is also currently under scrutiny. I know there is definitely a compliant filed against NYC and NYPD for this, but im not sure if its taken form of legal action. The complaint was that it prices lower income people of exercising their 2A right.

 

[kev74]

Did you try offering them a Rolex? Just kidding....

I appreciate what you're doing in filing this lawsuit.

NYPD gun license delays challenged as unconstitutional

A new federal lawsuit was filed against the city.

ny1.com

 

[RooftopKorean]

update:

NYC filed a motion to argue that the delays do not constitute a Second Amendment violation. So according to the lawyer, a judge will be forced to decide whether, and to what extent, these delays constitute a Second Amendment violation.

She said - "This is what I anticipated would happen, and it's really the ultimate goal behind this lawsuit - to get a federal decision as to how much of a delay is unconstitutional. We're assigned to a more left-leaning judge so it's likely we'll lose at this stage. But if that happens, I'll be appealing to the Second Circuit (federal appellate court)."

 

[Celt]

I appreciate you fighting this fight! Any delay at all is a violation of our rights.

 

[libertysnake]

One day is too long. How is it I can deploy a totally new application in a matter of seconds at work, but these people can't run a simple background check in under a minute for approving something? Absolute horse shit.

 

[Celt]

They complain about a workload and not enough staff. My simple solution is to do away with their infringing process, and they can save a ton of tax payer dollars. They can then have those people reassigned to solve actual crimes.

 

[S&W Fan]

They complain about a workload and not enough staff. My simple solution is to do away with their infringing process, and they can save a ton of tax payer dollars. They can then have those people reassigned to solve actual crimes.

You are suggesting rational behavior to ill rational people.

 

[Saltwater60]

One day is too long. How is it I can deploy a totally new application in a matter of seconds at work, but these people can't run a simple background check in under a minute for approving something? Absolute horse shit.

They can they simply refuse to do it is all. The FBI does it any times per day when firearms are purchased.

 

[RooftopKorean]

update:

The City filed their Answer to the Complaint on Monday 6/2. Our lawyer expected them to file a motion to dismiss at the outset, but it looks like they’re not rushing to get this dismissed. She's going to have the initial conference on Friday, where they will most likely be going over a discovery timeline.

She will update all of the people named in the lawsuit after the conference.

You can read their official response here.

Keep ya'll updated as I get more information.

 

[FP1201]

Well, I guess there's no turning back now. I'm involved in a multiparty lawsuit against the city for the delays with issuance on both permits and purchase authorization. If my lawyer gives me the OK, I will share further details.

Mirel gave me the go ahead to link the file for the Lawsuit, happy reading.

Dropbox

Go get 'em Tiger!
NYSRPA involved?

 

[RooftopKorean]

Go get 'em Tiger!
NYSRPA involved?

Not that I know of.

 

[Saltwater60]

Good man fighting for us while raising a toddler.