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spat said:
What actual policies of the Trump administration did you not like ?

In what way were the promised Biden policies going to be better ?

Every substantive complaint I have ever heard about Trump (and there are plenty I will admit), Biden promised to be far worse.

A Biden vote because you hate Trump seems to be to be a "cut off your nose to spite your face" moment.

And no, I don't consider "he Tweets mean things" to be a substantive complaint.

The other major category I see such complaints fall under are straw men, where the left has created a caricature of Trump and convinced people to hate it, when the reality of Trump was nothing like that. The "very fine people" hoax would be the classic example of that one.
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Here is the answer.

 
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SonOfSun said:
But you can't "disagree" with the facts:

  • Border crossings were lower under trump. That's what happens when you shutdown borders during a pandemic.
  • China is the world's worst polluter Same under Trump as Biden. Still we should do what's right regardless. Saying "China is a bigger polluter than anyone so why should we do anything" is sort of like saying you aren't going to exercise because your neighbor is fatter than you. If one of your work peers sluffs off, do you sluff off too?
  • BLM and antifa cross state lines and therefore are a federal responsibility I don't think it should be. Far too many things get passed to the feds. This needs to be changed.
  • Trump did not initiate any new military activity. Not unnecessarily getting involved in military activity is part of being successful on that front, and he overall did a good job there IMO. However the other part is the handling of existing inherited conflicts and his record there is terrible. Blindly Insta-withdrawing support on the Kurds without a transition in place, just leaving them high and dry is disgraceful and a stain on America's foreign policy.

An intellectually honest person might begin to reflect just why their opinions run counter to the facts.
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Illegal immigration was way down long before covid.

Since a large number of them are from south of Mexico, and Trump got *Mexico* to control their own southern border better, illegal immigration dropped significantly due to his policies.

I realize that the wall really pissed a lot of people off. But the fact remains that it *does* make it more difficult for the traffickers. Sure, it doesn't stop them, but it increases their costs, which will reduce their activity just as sure as FUAC's $0.50 gas tax will reduce driving.

The cost of the wall is also insignificant in the federal budget. If you want to get pissed about wasteful spending, look at some of the foreign aid pork. Even if all the wall did was supply stimulus money to the contractors and suppliers it was better spent than half the federal budget.

You are aware that the US reduced carbon emission significantly over the last decade, while China massively increased theirs ? It does no good to control our own emissions if China is just going to undo all that and more.

We could reduce ours to zero and it wouldn't help. The US is responsible for about 14% of the worlds carbon emissions (and falling). China is reasonable for 26% and growing.

When BLM and antifa try to burn down a federal courthouse, it should be a federal crime. That's just common sense. Likewise if they are organizing across state lines. That is the entire purpose of federal law enforcement, to deal with crimes committed across state lines.


You are right, not getting the US into unneeded foreign conflicts seems like a very low bar to set, but Trump is the only POTUS since Carter to manage it. When Biden inevitably gets adventurous, will you finally say "Trump was better, at least about this ?".
 
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Cuomo may be gone but his Gun Squad remains.
In my humble opinion, the common denominator of the states that had these huge boxes of ballots appearing at 3am is what was mailed to whom from what list and why? People that moved away from California years ago and turned in their licence plates and license, got ballots in the mail eventhough they lived in North Carolina. What lists did they use to mail balllots? There should be a matching bill to the USPS to match.
 
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Yes but President Trump said things about whores, is lame, mezkins, freeloading countries, freeloading un, he was a bad man baaad man.
You libs would melt if you were on my job site, because on my job site you are an American man or you are verbally ground up; that's why my guys love to work for me. We say what we do and do what we say, we bust balls, we follow orders, we have fun, make few mistakes (you can fix a mistake, Fups are a whole nother thing), and if your a back stabber I move you down the road.
Now look at your slow joe, lies, corruption, incompetence, Fingup all over the place, most of his people are just waiting to stab their way up the ladder, been stabbing the U.S.A. from day one.
What is stopping the people who want socialism so bad from moving to a socialist country, because in the U.S.A. you have the FREEDOM to get the F out,?
 
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