Looking to put together a basic bug out bag

libertysnake · Dec 9, 2020

Actually they make color E-Ink phones. Might be your best bet. 62 hours of battery life with FULL brightness. HiSense A5C Color E INK Smartphone

And full color so it's useable for maps. The screen refresh will suck, but who cares if you have good battery life and can use it for comms? Might have to look into whether the battery is replaceable.

Bob · Dec 9, 2020

Celt said:
If I've got a cut through a fence or cut off a padlock on something, and as far as a crowbar; in case I got to pry open a door. Imagine a scenario where I'm stuck in an urban area overnight. It would be nice to be able to get behind a closed door somewhere if I needed to.

Other than that I have some MREs to last me a few days, water, water purification,Compass, a map, Fire Starting stuff, some additional cold-weather layers, garbage bags , zip ties, etc...

I wouldn't mind getting a solar panel, one of the compact roll up type ones to charge my cell phone if need be.

You might consider a traveler hook, a hammerless hinge pin tool, and a sillcock key. Small items, not a lot of weight, and a lot of bang for your buck. The sillcock key can be used to access water in and around commercial structures that keep their sillcocks in cabinets. The hinge pin tool is self-explanatory. The traveler hook can be used to slip door latches in a number of places where you'd use a crowbar, and leaves less damage.

libertysnake · Dec 9, 2020

libertysnake said:
Actually they make color E-Ink phones. Might be your best bet. 62 hours of battery life with FULL brightness. HiSense A5C Color E INK Smartphone

And full color so it's useable for maps. The screen refresh will suck, but who cares if you have good battery life and can use it for comms? Might have to look into whether the battery is replaceable.

Actually did some digging into this, and apparently the phone sends logs off to Beijing via syslog or something. So kinda sketchy. Then again in a SHTF scenario doesn't matter as long as it does what you want / comms will be down anyway.

GOPerfect · Dec 9, 2020

libertysnake said:
The solar panel is useful not so much for making calls -- as in SHTF cell service is probably going to be spotty -- but for the maps on your phone. You could basically have massive amounts of offline maps of the entire USA on the phone. Unless the battery goes completely on the phone, you're talking years worth of access to the maps.

I was thinking of getting some sort of cheap tablet with replaceable batteries somehow, and just have a spare lithium battery or two. That's really the main determining factor on a lot of phones, the battery over years. Long as you keep the device dry and charged, you're gtg with nearly limitless resources in your BOB. Countless books, maps, everything. Throw the device in a faraday bag and it's even protected against EMP.

Actually, to be honest, for just pure text, something E-Ink is your best bet. Why? Kindle will last something like weeks on a single charge. Doesn't take much to charge it even. So you're not wasting a lot of time charging the kindle.

So I'd probably take my kindle + some sort of cheap tablet I have yet to find for maps.

I love the idea of a tablet.

I have a rather inexpensive one and it is loaded with valuable information. I have about a quarter gig of manuals on it as well as maps of the County. Not just road maps; trail maps, park maps and the like.

Mine is in a Faraday bag as well. I pull it out once a week and ensure it is fully charged. I have a small recharge system for the sole purpose of maintaining a charge.

Target · Dec 9, 2020

Saltwater60 said:
My bag made it to Illinois. I hope the bag is big enough. It’s 24 liters so that would mean 12 two liter poop bottles worth. However I watch a 5.11 video and they said it’s a half day pack. I can’t imagine 24 liters not being enough.

I don't think that's how it works

. 24 Liters would be 2400 cubic inches of space. You are not fitting 12 bottles of Mountain Dew in there.

BuffNiag · Dec 9, 2020

24 liters is about 1,464 cubic inches or 6.3 gallons. 24 liters of Mountain Dew would in fact fit in the bag, but not necessarily contained within the bottles.

libertysnake · Dec 9, 2020

BuffNiag said:
24 liters is about 1,464 cubic inches or 6.3 gallons. 24 liters of Mountain Dew would in fact fit in the bag, but not necessarily contained within the bottles.

Actually you could buy the concentrate with caffeine in it. Not a bad idea for caffeine on the go.

GOPerfect · Dec 9, 2020

Saltwater60 said:
Good to know. I have already ordered a general purpose molle ouch and a water bottle holder. Thanks. I just got nervous when they said a half a day pack. I was like WTF and I use way smaller bags for full day fishing adventures and get away with it with fishing gear in the bag.

The water bottle holder is huge. I have one that holds a 128 ounce bottle. I have a few others attached to the bag. Lots of little things. Things that may come in handy or not, very little weight to these little extras.

Drinkthekoolaid · Dec 12, 2020

Saltwater60 said:
Bag I ordered is out of stock and doesn’t seem like it will be back in anytime soon. I chose a different color and because the delay they sent me $50.00 gift card. The bag will cost me $9.00. I guess I can’t really complain. I went with coyote instead of the green I chose.

Where did you buy it from?

livingston · Dec 13, 2020

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masterswimmer · Dec 23, 2020

Saltwater60 said:
I finally, finally received my bag today. I love the bag and it’s a great size with great storage.
I bought a few extra ad one I’d like to run by you all. I think some are going back and I’ll likely get a few others.
I’m rather on the fence about this one. It’s small but I like the pockets. I think I could use it as a small medical and tool bag.

Flex Admin Pouch

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I like this and it’s very versatile IMO. I’ll keep it.

H2O Carrier

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I like this one but I don’t even know how to attach it to my bag and it’s very skinny. It’s like an inch and a half thick and very heavy so I think this ones going back for sure.

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I have this and I really like it. I’m not sure if I want two more of these or if I want get get one more of these and one more of the medium flex bags.

6.6 Pouch

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I think I’m going to order one of these to stick on the back of the bag to make it more versatile. My fishing gear can go in here and it can be used when fishing and removed when not.

Flex Medium GP Pouch

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What do you all think about the mix I have? Would you get more 6x6 bags or should I get the medium flexpouch.
I like the medium flex pouch because they are 5” tall and two would fit nicely on the back and allow zipper use very nicely. I like the 6x6 pouch because it has the Molle on the back and I can always add other things to it. I think what I will do is stick with the 6x6 o have and get another one. Then I’ll get a medium pouch. I’ll do a 6x6 and medium pouch in the back and I’ll do a 6x6 on the inside and add an admin or med bag to that to pull out with the gear I use most.

Down the road I’ll get more. I like the 6x10 vertical pouch if I need more space because I can add the pouches to that if need be. I don’t think I’ll need it but maybe. I can also get a small vertical bag or the go’s holder down the road. I’ll likely get mag holders though.
Here is the set up that I have now. I love the heavy padded straps and the grip on the back of the bag because the bag doesn’t move. Very comfortable bag.

Dude, I like it a lot. Nice setup.

libertysnake · Dec 23, 2020

livingston said:

Have to double check, but I have one of these in my hiking bag. It's relatively small, and honestly I don't need a lot when it comes to grates. I wanted something minimalist that would stay flat and weigh as little as possible. Clear brush + two rocks + grate = fire. Can fucking grill right on the damn thing. Only cleanup you need is a piece of steel wool.

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libertysnake · Dec 23, 2020

Also I have the 12 hour version of this, cause I like the smaller size for hikes, but they're all the same idea. I like his designs because he puts neon colors inside to make it easy to see the contents. Thing has held up good so far for me. Similar to the GoRuck GR0 I have for work.

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masterswimmer · Dec 23, 2020

Saltwater60 said:
The bags are 40% off get them while they are hot. It’s the 5.11 rush 12 and you can see the packs I added on. I like it so far.

You sure about Rush 12?
I see the Rush24 & Rush100.

GOPerfect · Dec 24, 2020

Saltwater60 said:
I finally, finally received my bag today. I love the bag and it’s a great size with great storage.
I bought a few extra ad one I’d like to run by you all. I think some are going back and I’ll likely get a few others.
I’m rather on the fence about this one. It’s small but I like the pockets. I think I could use it as a small medical and tool bag.

Flex Admin Pouch

FLEX ADMIN POUCH

www.511tactical.com

I like this and it’s very versatile IMO. I’ll keep it.

H2O Carrier

H2O Carrier

www.511tactical.com

I like this one but I don’t even know how to attach it to my bag and it’s very skinny. It’s like an inch and a half thick and very heavy so I think this ones going back for sure.

Utility 9X9 Gear Set™

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www.511tactical.com

I have this and I really like it. I’m not sure if I want two more of these or if I want get get one more of these and one more of the medium flex bags.

6.6 Pouch

6.6 Pouch

www.511tactical.com

I think I’m going to order one of these to stick on the back of the bag to make it more versatile. My fishing gear can go in here and it can be used when fishing and removed when not.

Flex Medium GP Pouch

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www.511tactical.com

What do you all think about the mix I have? Would you get more 6x6 bags or should I get the medium flexpouch.
I like the medium flex pouch because they are 5” tall and two would fit nicely on the back and allow zipper use very nicely. I like the 6x6 pouch because it has the Molle on the back and I can always add other things to it. I think what I will do is stick with the 6x6 o have and get another one. Then I’ll get a medium pouch. I’ll do a 6x6 and medium pouch in the back and I’ll do a 6x6 on the inside and add an admin or med bag to that to pull out with the gear I use most.

Down the road I’ll get more. I like the 6x10 vertical pouch if I need more space because I can add the pouches to that if need be. I don’t think I’ll need it but maybe. I can also get a small vertical bag or the go’s holder down the road. I’ll likely get mag holders though.
Here is the set up that I have now. I love the heavy padded straps and the grip on the back of the bag because the bag doesn’t move. Very comfortable bag.

I am liking your choices. As for the Molle knife sheath, you can use para cord and just lash it on the bag where you need/want it.

Vapor · Dec 24, 2020

I don't know of this has been gone over yet in this thread, but spending some time out doing bushcraft type things (I hate that term) a good, light weight folding saw is worth its weight in gold.

Don't get a cheap one either. You want a Silky (Japan) $40 or Bahco (Sweden) $25. Then use your fixed blade to split it. It will cut much better than some machete or big silly survival knife, and is much safer.

After trying so many things out, I would throw something like a Becker bk9 or ontario rtak 2 in the trash can and take a mora Garberg and a Bahco.

A knife that tries to be a jack of all trades is a master of none.

If you really really want to process wood, go with a bigger silky and a 26" camp axe. This is if you're bugging out with a sled, 4 wheeler, caper, etc. You combined with a buck saw, you can literally build small cabins.

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