Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI

[Blimey]

Not what aboutism at all.

The MAGA thing isn't a cult at all.

I was using the Covid/Fauci thing as an example of what a real one looks like at that scale.

I don't recall Trump ever claiming "I am the science" or anything like it.

Of course it is a cult of personality.

This thread is PACKED full of people swearing fealty to trump and claiming the same patently baseless stuff he has claimed despite not a single person in this thread having any real details about the case!

All we know is that a prolific liar has claimed one thing, and that

1) the head of the FBI personally approved a historic search of his residence

2) classified documents were taken from his residence

These are indisputable facts.

So while most of y’all are carrying placards for your guy the safe money is you’re going to have an awful lot of egg on your faces once this is all unwrapped.

 

[DoOver]

#BloMe

 

[Blimey]

#BloMe

Aww, is sweetie unable to use his words? There, there.

 

[livingston]

Of course it is a cult of personality.

This thread is PACKED full of people swearing fealty to trump and claiming the same patently baseless stuff he has claimed despite not a single person in this thread having any real details about the case!

All we know is that a prolific liar has claimed one thing, and that

1) the head of the FBI personally approved a historic search of his residence

2) classified documents were taken from his residence

These are indisputable facts.

So while most of y’all are carrying placards for your guy the safe money is you’re going to have an awful lot of egg on your faces once this is all unwrapped.

Biden White House facilitated DOJ's criminal probe against Trump, scuttled privilege claims: memos​

"I have therefore decided not to honor the former President's 'protective' claim of privilege," acting National Archivist Debra Steidel Wall wrote Trump's team in May.
Long before it professed no prior knowledge of the raid on Donald Trump's estate, the Biden White House worked directly with the Justice Department and National Archives to instigate the criminal probe into alleged mishandling of documents, allowing the FBI to review evidence retrieved from Mar-a-Lago this spring and eliminating the 45th president's claims to executive privilege, according to contemporaneous government documents reviewed by Just the News.

Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel, regarding whether or not I should uphold the former President's purported 'protective assertion of executive privilege,'" Wall wrote. "... I have therefore decided not to honor the former President's 'protective' claim of privilege."

The memos provide the most definitive evidence to date of the current White House's effort to facilitate a criminal probe of the man Joe Biden beat in the 2020 election and may face again as a challenger in 2024. That involvement included eliminating one of the legal defenses Trump might use to fight the FBI over access to his documents.

Biden White House facilitated DOJ's criminal probe against Trump, scuttled privilege claims: memos

"I have therefore decided not to honor the former President's 'protective' claim of privilege," acting National Archivist Debra Steidel Wall wrote Trump's team in May.

justthenews.com

 

[ronstar]

And Germany starting two World Wars is legal !

And Germany starting two World Wars is legal !!

Germany didn't start WW1.

 

[ronstar]

'Yikes': Experts stunned after Trump's late-night release of NARA document

Former President Donald Trump reportedly released a new document very late Monday night that legal experts believe is incredibly damning.Conservative journalist John Solomon, who is one of Donald Trump's official representatives for the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)...

www.rawstory.com

Trump in even more trouble now.

 

[nortatoga]

Germany didn't start WW1.

First thing you have gotten right, I'll give you that!

But with Brian Stelter gone who are you now going to for your Reliable Sources?

 

[Blimey]

'Yikes': Experts stunned after Trump's late-night release of NARA document

Former President Donald Trump reportedly released a new document very late Monday night that legal experts believe is incredibly damning.Conservative journalist John Solomon, who is one of Donald Trump's official representatives for the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)...

www.rawstory.com

Trump in even more trouble now.

This is why people need to pull their pants back up and wait for more info. If my own brother was raided by the FBI I would ask him what the heck he did to entice that, but here we have people jumping up and down in defense of a guy who we know 100% was storing classified documents on his property.

 

[DoOver]

#REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: NEW: Trump had over 300 Classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. I’ll say it again. 300 classified documents! That’s 300 separate counts of Espionage. According to federal law, that’s a 10 year sentence per document. Which means at least a 3,000 year prison sentence for Donald Trump.

 

[tirwin1]

This is why people need to pull their pants back up and wait for more info. If my own brother was raided by the FBI I would ask him what the heck he did to entice that, but here we have people jumping up and down in defense of a guy who we know 100% was storing classified documents on his property.

After russiagate how anyone in their right mind could possibly trust the FBI in this situation is beyond me. There will be all kinds of leaks framed in the worst possible way. If you trust any of them you are worse than a fool. This game was played before and it was all lies. You criticize the people that blindly follow trump - but you are no different with your antipathy towards him. Flip side of the same coin.

 

[Bigfoot]

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[Dr. Evil]

After russiagate how anyone in their right mind could possibly trust the FBI in this situation is beyond me. There will be all kinds of leaks framed in the worst possible way. If you trust any of them you are worse than a fool. This game was played before and it was all lies. You criticize the people that blindly follow trump - but you are no different with your antipathy towards him. Flip side of the same coin.

Don't be so hard on him as he's had a tough day or two. After all his main squeeze and hero just announced his retirement.

 

[DoOver]

 

[DoOver]

 

[Blimey]

After russiagate how anyone in their right mind could possibly trust the FBI in this situation is beyond me. There will be all kinds of leaks framed in the worst possible way. If you trust any of them you are worse than a fool. This game was played before and it was all lies. You criticize the people that blindly follow trump - but you are no different with your antipathy towards him. Flip side of the same coin.

This situation? Or all situations?

What if--and I know it's hard to believe--Trump actually did have classified materials in his house and broke the law doing so? Have you even considered that as a real possibility?

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

What if--and I know it's hard to believe--Trump actually did have classified materials in his house and broke the law doing so? Have you even considered that as a real possibility?

Not sure how the one guy on the planet who possessed the unilateral authority to reclassify EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS at his own whim without so much as needing to make a note about it on a post-it, could logically do what you claim.

Maybe you can explain it to us, how the guy who can unilaterally decide to REclassify something to another level, at his own whim, can logically do what you claim.

 

[ronstar]

This is why people need to pull their pants back up and wait for more info. If my own brother was raided by the FBI I would ask him what the heck he did to entice that, but here we have people jumping up and down in defense of a guy who we know 100% was storing classified documents on his property.

Clearly he kept classified info.

Not sure how the one guy on the planet who possessed the unilateral authority to reclassify EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS at his own whim without so much as needing to make a note about it on a post-it, could logically do what you claim.

Maybe you can explain it to us, how the guy who can unilaterally decide to REclassify something to another level, at his own whim, can logically do what you claim.

he never declassified the info, that's how.

 

[spat]

Of course it is a cult of personality.

This thread is PACKED full of people swearing fealty to trump and claiming the same patently baseless stuff he has claimed despite not a single person in this thread having any real details about the case!

All we know is that a prolific liar has claimed one thing, and that

1) the head of the FBI personally approved a historic search of his residence

2) classified documents were taken from his residence

These are indisputable facts.

So while most of y’all are carrying placards for your guy the safe money is you’re going to have an awful lot of egg on your faces once this is all unwrapped.

The fact that the head of the FBI personally approved the warrant is proof it is a witch hunt.

What other warrant was personally approved by him ?

Doesn't that mean that the warrant wouldn't have been approved via the normal course of business ?


Classified documents in the possession of a former POTUS is nothing surprising. You don't think Obama, Bush, and Clinton also have them ?

 

[tirwin1]

This situation? Or all situations?

What if--and I know it's hard to believe--Trump actually did have classified materials in his house and broke the law doing so? Have you even considered that as a real possibility?

No. Supreme court precedent gives bias to former president. I'm certain it will be claimed that trump has classified documents and that this will be in the courts for years - so it will be lingering over his head up to the election. If you can't see the political motivation for this I can't help you. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. You are to blame for accepting anything about this from media leaks. Or do believe trump got pissed on by Russian hookers?

 

[spat]

Wrong. Germany was a signatory to the 1907 Hague Convention which made it illegal to arrest and deport civilians in Occupied territory. Germany violated international law.

You have a problem with the law banning felons from possessing guns? You want pedophiles, murderers, drug dealers, walking around with guns?

No, I want pedophiles and murderers in prison, and I don't want felons walking around at all until they *can* be trusted with guns again.

The concept of "international law" is a farce. It is something the powerful them themselves to justify their retribution.

What do you think the notion would look like if the Axis had won LOL.

 

[FRB]

This thread is page after page of groveling at the feet of a guy who you know to be a liar. A prolific one. You know he is. I always knew he was, too.

Name one provable lie.... using the absurd via hyperbole is not the same as lying,... so go for it name one provable lie.

 

[FRB]

10. The group performs secret rites

Yep, a cult.

1. The leader is the ultimate authority - He hardly is my ultimate authority!
2. The group suppresses skepticism - You must not read much, many here note his mistakes.
3. The group delegitimizes former members - Only Rosie O'Donnell..... (grin)
4. The group is paranoid about the outside world - I have ZERO paranoia!
5. The group relies on shame cycles - We shame those worthy of shame! You hurt the common man we shame you!
6. The leader is above the law - He is not above the law, name one law he has broken!!!
7. The group uses “thought reform” methods - That is too stupid to even try to answer,
8. The group is elitist - Hardly, I am let in and I am nothing but an animated dirtball!
9. There is no financial transparency - Post your paycheck and W2!
10. The group performs secret rites - Huh? How would you even know if it was a secret?

Yep, a cult. - A joke!

 

[FRB]

Calling the FBI "Gestapo" is tantamount to Holocaust denial. Maybe lay off the hysterical hyperbole.

It is far worse, this is supposed to be a free nation. They are worse than the gestapo!

 

[Jmac00]

Cult of personality - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This thread is page after page of groveling at the feet of a guy who you know to be a liar. A prolific one. You know he is. I always knew he was, too. Even when I wanted him to win 2020 election I knew he was a flawed person. But, incredibly--and wholly, textbook-consistent--with a personality cult his misbehavior since has not repelled many people but on the contrary they find him more endearing. The worse he behaves the more he is admired.

The republican party since 2020 is no longer a political party; it is a cult. You guys are in a cult. As is consistent in cult membership there is a breathless denial, but if you google "signs of a cult", you must, objectively, admit you're in one.


1. The leader is the ultimate authority
2. The group suppresses skepticism
3. The group delegitimizes former members
4. The group is paranoid about the outside world
5. The group relies on shame cycles
6. The leader is above the law
7. The group uses “thought reform” methods
8. The group is elitist
9. There is no financial transparency
10. The group performs secret rites

Yep, a cult.

so Adam Schitt, he is the consummate liar

 

[ronstar]

The fact that the head of the FBI personally approved the warrant is proof it is a witch hunt.

Or the most highest approval was seen as necessary for such a high profile search.

Dont forget probable cause was presented to a Federal judge.

 

[FRB]

The fact that the head of the FBI personally approved the warrant is proof it is a witch hunt.

What other warrant was personally approved by him ?

Doesn't that mean that the warrant wouldn't have been approved via the normal course of business ?


Classified documents in the possession of a former POTUS is nothing surprising. You don't think Obama, Bush, and Clinton also have them ?

Barack the great Oblamer took 30,000 pages of info!

 

[FRB]

Or the most highest approval was seen as necessary for such a high profile search.

Dont forget probable cause was presented to a Federal judge.

Wrong, he is not a judge.

 

[spat]

Or the most highest approval was seen as necessary for such a high profile search.

Dont forget probable cause was presented to a Federal judge.

That warrant was a joke.

Any judge that approves a warrant for "any document that might be evidence of a crime" should be removed from the bench.

That's an official fishing expedition.

 

[Dr. Evil]

The two of them should start their own forum lol.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Exploring the Real Reasons Behind the FBI Raid on Trump's home - DOJ and FBI CORRUPTION - Galt's Gulch

Exploring the Real Reasons Behind the FBI Raid on Trump's home - DOJ and FBI CORRUPTION - Galt's Gulch

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