Mass shootings contagious??

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I thought this was interesting especially the part about media coverage causing the "next one" to happen.

I do agree that the media coverage does encourage others through fame. It will be interesting to see how the liberals feel about this. I'm sure they use the media coverage to their advantage to keep the spot light on it. They still regularly talk about columbine.
America’s Mass-Shooting Epidemic Is Contagious - The Atlantic
 
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Saltwater60 said:
I thought this was interesting especially the part about media coverage causing the "next one" to happen.

I do agree that the media coverage does encourage others through fame. It will be interesting to see how the liberals feel about this. I'm sure they use the media coverage to their advantage to keep the spot light on it. They still regularly talk about columbine.
America’s Mass-Shooting Epidemic Is Contagious - The Atlantic
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Excellent article. Thanks.

"Mass shootings are often committed by lonely and unrooted men, suffering from ... grandiose aspirations..."

"....mass shootings are not, strictly speaking, terrorism, they still seem to adhere to a sort of dark and nearly invisible ideology of oppressive self-aggrandizement, a bid for greatness ..."​

Simple heroics in a universe beyond our ken. While not a justification, perhaps this particular heroic destiny betrays the failure of our culture to provide meaning and purpose. Eg: 'make america great again'.
 
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Unfortunately, mass shootings:
...are news
...fit into the 'if it bleeds it leads' principle
...help left leaning media to promote an agenda of gun control/confiscation

If the hypothesis of the article is correct, and if the media coverage is encouraging mass shootings, then these terrible events will only get worse. A lot worse. Imagine multiple high definition cameras live feeding facebook. Two hundred men, women and children killed and every horrific moment recorded with intimate detail. Matter of time most likely.

Just like the graphic imagery presented by the media of the Vietnam war helped end support at home...

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@GOYABEAN lol...

It's a well known Phenomena... Copy cat crime has been around forever. Worst is pyromaniac's who love to watch their work!

Bottom line is the mental issue of those who do these dirty deeds. The real question then is would they do it at all of there was no notoriety attached to it?

Only way to know would be to have a blanket media blackout of naming the perpetrators of these acts. Now that would be a useful law, no? Make it illegal for any news media or otherwise publish the identity of anyone person, group or organization even suspected of having involvement with any mass murder or terroristic act!

Not hard right? I mean it would be for the children after all and public safety!?!?

Do like the Pharaoh in Moses, let their names be stricken from every record! Make it as they never existed...
 
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Coolone is right - make it public policy, 24 hours after the initial 'shooting' act - the perpetrators name NOT BE USED in any further news broadcasts or articles. Refer to them as, say: the deranged moron, - the insane lunatic, - the crazed idiot, etc. (use your imagination here to come up with some more descriptions). -- If you research the names of some of the past mass shooters, there are actually internet forum pages dedicated to them and followed by people who admire them to this day, -- f__k 'em & forget 'em! ....and let good men with guns, stand by, ready to stop bad men with guns.
 
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wizrd said:
make it LAW, after the initial 'shooting' act - the perpetrators name IS NOT BE USED in any news broadcasts or articles. Refer to them as, say: the deranged moron, - the insane lunatic, - the crazed idiot, etc. (use your imagination here to come up with some more descriptions).
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Till after they are convicted, if there still alive .. ..
 
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What is contagious and lethal is socialist communism, it has killed over a hundred million people and counting in the last one hundred years!
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I believe there is a lot of truth to this. The nut job Sandy hook shooter kept a spreadsheet with the tallies of other mass murderers. CNN was publicly lectured by a psychiatrist because she claims their coverage of these events only increases the chances of further copycat type events. It's as if all these twisted asshole are in some sort of competition in terms of body count.
 
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tirwin1 said:
I believe there is a lot of truth to this. The nut job Sandy hook shooter kept a spreadsheet with the tallies of other mass murderers. CNN was publicly lectured by a psychiatrist because she claims their coverage of these events only increases the chances of further copycat type events. It's as if all these twisted asshole are in some sort of competition in terms of body count.
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This is very true. There is basically a score sheet and the next mass shooter wants to top the last. My dad has gone to trainings and that's what they talk about.
 
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We can't control what the media does, but we can control what we do. Stop talking about it. Words turn into thoughts, thoughts turn into actions. It doesn't matter if you talk about it in a bad way or a good way, you are contributing to reinforcing it.
 
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Those who rest their laurels on "Freedom of the Press" and the inability to control what the media does dismiss the very fight we find ourselves in daily with the 2nd Amendment!

Not "all" speech is unregulated, and if these psycho-analyst can exhibit it is a danger to the public exploiting the perpetrators, their likeness, or recreation of their deeds, well, you and I all know for the children, it could be stopped!!! But seeing as it is the media itself to would be affected, we also know it a NIMBY scenario! They are all for stomping on your rights, as long as it isn't their Rights that get stomped!

Simple fixx would be assigning any name, like subject "A"... That's it! No fancy names/nicknames like "Son of Sam" or Zodiac Killer", no eye sobbing backstory, no future Hollywood fright-night movie with all the info being publicized, then artistic expression applied to it, thereby glorifying the evil deeds!

A tangled web for sure...
 
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Cooolone said:
Those who rest their laurels on "Freedom of the Press" and the inability to control what the media does dismiss the very fight we find ourselves in daily with the 2nd Amendment!

Not "all" speech is unregulated, and if these psycho-analyst can exhibit it is a danger to the public exploiting the perpetrators, their likeness, or recreation of their deeds, well, you and I all know for the children, it could be stopped!!! But seeing as it is the media itself to would be affected, we also know it a NIMBY scenario! They are all for stomping on your rights, as long as it isn't their Rights that get stomped!

Simple fixx would be assigning any name, like subject "A"... That's it! No fancy names/nicknames like "Son of Sam" or Zodiac Killer", no eye sobbing backstory, no future Hollywood fright-night movie with all the info being publicized, then artistic expression applied to it, thereby glorifying the evil deeds!

A tangled web for sure...
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I don't give a shit about freedom of the press. That's not what my post was about. This shooting wasn't even mentioned on CNN, when I watched the news today. The sooner it disappears from the headlines, the better. There is nothing to be gained by us to keep this topic going.
 
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freddy said:
Unfortunately, mass shootings:
...are news
...fit into the 'if it bleeds it leads' principle
...help left leaning media to promote an agenda of gun control/confiscation

Just like the graphic imagery presented by the media of the Vietnam war helped end support at home...
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Let me expand if I may.

mass shootings
...are news
Any news outlet on Cable TV IS NOT NEWS! They are opinion shows. If they were really "News" then we would know what is happening in Ukraine or France or anywhere. They treat information about current events as a pain in their asses. Like a radio DJ may look at the hourly weather forecast. They have spent the past 3 years talking Trump trying to "shape" public opinion like they did with Barak Obama. The problem is they are no longer relevant like they were 10 - 15 years ago. ...and now back to what Trump said 10 years ago.

...fit into the 'if it bleeds it leads' principle. Dance in the blood before it dries up. Americans have a short attention span. An individual drives a trunk screaming smegma snackbar, who entered the USA on a VISA Lottery. Trump mentions in passing that maybe we should end the Visa Lottery. Schumeriod and all the talking experts on the aforementioned panels have a shit fit. Schuberoid says YOU CANT' PUNISH EVERYONE FOR THE ACTIONS OF ONE GUY! (with a straight face no less) When it comes to Constitutional Limitations of Government, then it is okay punish everyone for the actions of individuals.

...help left leaning media to promote an agenda of gun control/confiscation. They spend 4 days of 24-7 what they call "coverage" of the _______shooting. After the first 12 hours or so, it is no longer news. They then load up "panels" of "experts" who push the agenda with their relentless "opinions". Their intent is to program other liberal through repetition. These people know that Liberals are easily fooled and incapable of critical thought.

Just like the graphic imagery presented by the media of the Vietnam war helped end support at home... in our living rooms every night at 5:30 pm. Little did Walter know that I along with countless were looking for our friends brothers and sisters, hoping to catch a glimpse. Big difference between now and then is the internet - skype - cell phones and the like. When my son-in-law was in the "Stan" we linked up a Skype video call for Christmas.


Bottom line: When Trump won, they were so arrogant that they couldn't believe that all those hours 24-7 for years, they failed to elect their girl. That is why they are now spending 24-7 talking about nothing but Russians. They have become irrelevant but they just won't admit it. If not, with Hillary in the White House the anti's would be pushing for a lot more.
 
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